The Iran War

[AZGrizFan]

Have any of you all who also served as military officers (granted, I was the only Marine officer, but still) ever seen an officer just decide one day that he'd enter a clandestine weapons deal with Iran in his spare time without any orders from superiors?

I mean, I used to do it all the time, but I'm just a motivated high achiever. I'm talking about the average Marine officer, like Ollie North.

Oh hell yeah. I had side deals going all the time. Gotta make some bank, bro.

[AZGrizFan]

So is anyone buying "engine failure" on the downed Ukrainian airliner in Tehran?

You know Iran had the anti-air batteries on highest alert figuring there'd be some incoming with stars and stripes painted on it.

Is there any doubt the Iranians shot that plane down? I mean, the fuselage footage even shows shrapnel holes riddled throughout.

100% certain that Epstein didn't commit suicide. And neither did the Ukrainian airline pilot.

[AZGrizFan]

Wrong- North isn't a felon. His convictions were overturned by an appeals court.

On a technicality. Still a thug and like many Reagan followers and conks, not smart enough to see their own hypocrisy regarding Iran and negotiating with terrorists.

Yes, yes. Let the hate flow.

Sure glad there's no hypocrisy on the donk side of the aisle.

[Ibanez]

I took it as the briefers didn’t want to discuss or debate the merits/morality/legality of the attack.

How is that possible without revealing classified information? The entire discussion would be based on the validity of intelligence. And the intelligence would probably be classified because it could reveal exactly how it was obtained. And revealing how it was obtained would jeopardize future intel.

So I still don't know what he is saying.

I just rewatched the video. Congress was told not to debate Trump's war powers as it would only "embolden" Iran. Congress should be checking the Executive. That's how our government is set up.

Also, the administration cited the 2002 war authorization of force as legal justification. So, how does an 18yr old authorization against Iraq after 9/11 square with actions against Iran?

[CAA Flagship]

Have any of you all who also served as military officers (granted, I was the only Marine officer, but still) ever seen an officer just decide one day that he'd enter a clandestine weapons deal with Iran in his spare time without any orders from superiors?

I mean, I used to do it all the time, but I'm just a motivated high achiever. I'm talking about the average Marine officer, like Ollie North.

Oh hell yeah. I had side deals going all the time. Gotta make some bank, bro.

Kelly's Heroes. Not weapons and not a deal. Just the theft of gold.

[CAA Flagship]

How is that possible without revealing classified information? The entire discussion would be based on the validity of intelligence. And the intelligence would probably be classified because it could reveal exactly how it was obtained. And revealing how it was obtained would jeopardize future intel.

So I still don't know what he is saying.

No, what they were saying is, " We did this. Don't debate it with us. Don't ask questions about as to why, etc..." I think that's what he meant. Basically, do not question us on our decision.

Then why was the concern about what Iran would think mentioned? Any "private" debate would not be heard by Iran.

[Ibanez]

No, what they were saying is, " We did this. Don't debate it with us. Don't ask questions about as to why, etc..." I think that's what he meant. Basically, do not question us on our decision.

Then why was the concern about what Iran would think mentioned? Any "private" debate would not be heard by Iran.

Go read my edit. They're being told to not debate Trumps war powers in public.

[UNI88]

On a technicality. Still a thug and like many Reagan followers and conks, not smart enough to see their own hypocrisy regarding Iran and negotiating with terrorists.

Yes, yes. Let the hate flow.

Sure glad there's no hypocrisy on the donk side of the aisle.

Chizzy's meme was funny. BDK was trying to discredit it by nit-picking on a point that was marginally relevant to the meme.

North is a hypocrite and should be mocked.

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[CAA Flagship]

Then why was the concern about what Iran would think mentioned? Any "private" debate would not be heard by Iran.

Go read my edit. They're being told to not debate Trumps war powers in public.

What he said was that they were told by the briefers to not "debate...the issue of the appropriateness of further military intervention against Iran".

The "appropriateness" has nothing to do with "authorization". If that is what he meant, he chose his words poorly.

[AZGrizFan]

Yes, yes. Let the hate flow.

Sure glad there's no hypocrisy on the donk side of the aisle.

Chizzy's meme was funny. BDK was trying to discredit it by nit-picking on a point that was marginally relevant to the meme.

North is a hypocrite and should be mocked.

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Agreed. Just calling out klammy's hypocrisy.

[93henfan]

Back to Reagan and Ollie North for a minute.

I don't understand how the two of them weren't co-awardees of the Nobel Peace Prize in the late 80s.

I mean, double-selling to both sides in the Iran-Iraq war kept hundreds of thousands of nutjob muzzies tied up with each other for a decade, undoubtedly saving thousands of lives in the civilized world.

Great work, gents. Bravo.

[AZGrizFan]

Back to Reagan and Ollie North for a minute.

I don't understand how the two of them weren't co-awardees of the Nobel Peace Prize in the late 80s.

I mean, double-selling to both sides in the Iran-Iraq war kept hundreds of thousands of nutjob muzzies tied up with each other for a decade, undoubtedly saving thousands of lives in the civilized world.

Great work, gents. Bravo.

Ollie North is a goddamned 'Merican HERO!

Spoiler: show

did I get that right, BTK?

[CID1990]

So is anyone buying "engine failure" on the downed Ukrainian airliner in Tehran?

You know Iran had the anti-air batteries on highest alert figuring there'd be some incoming with stars and stripes painted on it.

Is there any doubt the Iranians shot that plane down? I mean, the fuselage footage even shows shrapnel holes riddled throughout.

100%

[89Hen]

So is anyone buying "engine failure" on the downed Ukrainian airliner in Tehran?

You know Iran had the anti-air batteries on highest alert figuring there'd be some incoming with stars and stripes painted on it.

Is there any doubt the Iranians shot that plane down? I mean, the fuselage footage even shows shrapnel holes riddled throughout.

100%

+1

[CAA Flagship]

NBC is now reporting that senior US officials believe the plane was shot down by Iranians.

[Pwns]

The plane was carrying mostly Iranians. My guess is the Iranians were incompetent and did it intentionally and are trying to save face.

I wouldn't be shocked if it was a problem with the plane, though. Boeing has been on a nose dive since it was taken over by bean counters and diversity-crats.

[BDKJMU]

Wrong- North isn't a felon. His convictions were overturned by an appeals court.

On a technicality. Still a thug and like many Reagan followers and conks, not smart enough to see their own hypocrisy regarding Iran and negotiating with terrorists.

A thug because what? He lied to Congress?

[Skjellyfetti]

Perhaps because he went around sanctions to sell weapons to this very same Iranian regime.

Weapons smugglers are thugs. Change my mind.

[dbackjon]

So is anyone buying "engine failure" on the downed Ukrainian airliner in Tehran?

You know Iran had the anti-air batteries on highest alert figuring there'd be some incoming with stars and stripes painted on it.

Is there any doubt the Iranians shot that plane down? I mean, the fuselage footage even shows shrapnel holes riddled throughout.

100% certain that Epstein didn't commit suicide. And neither did the Ukrainian airline pilot.

Agreed - the Federal Prison controlled by Barr and Trump had plenty of reasons to kill him.

[Ibanez]

Go read my edit. They're being told to not debate Trumps war powers in public.

What he said was that they were told by the briefers to not "debate...the issue of the appropriateness of further military intervention against Iran".

The "appropriateness" has nothing to do with "authorization". If that is what he meant, he chose his words poorly.

I didn’t say that about the authorization. Try it one more time.


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[CAA Flagship]

100% certain that Epstein didn't commit suicide. And neither did the Ukrainian airline pilot.

Agreed - the Federal Prison controlled by Barr and Trump had plenty of reasons to kill him.

[CAA Flagship]

What he said was that they were told by the briefers to not "debate...the issue of the appropriateness of further military intervention against Iran".

The "appropriateness" has nothing to do with "authorization". If that is what he meant, he chose his words poorly.

I didn’t say that about the authorization. Try it one more time.

You said "Trump's war powers". I take that to mean authorization.

Again, he said "appropriateness of further intervention against Iran". That is a different subject than "Trump's war powers". I'm just saying that the guy was not clear on what he was in a huff about.

[Ibanez]

I didn’t say that about the authorization. Try it one more time.

You said "Trump's war powers". I take that to mean authorization.

Again, he said "appropriateness of further intervention against Iran". That is a different subject than "Trump's war powers". I'm just saying that the guy was not clear on what he was in a huff about.

I see the disconnect now...

Talk about confusing.

[BDKJMU]

Back to Reagan and Ollie North for a minute.

I don't understand how the two of them weren't co-awardees of the Nobel Peace Prize in the late 80s.

I mean, double-selling to both sides in the Iran-Iraq war kept hundreds of thousands of nutjob muzzies tied up with each other for a decade, undoubtedly saving thousands of lives in the civilized world.

Great work, gents. Bravo.

Ollie North is a goddamned 'Merican HERO!

Spoiler: show

did I get that right, BTK?

GD right. I had the below poster in the bedroom as a kid:

[dbackjon]

Ollie North is a goddamned 'Merican HERO!

Spoiler: show

did I get that right, BTK?

GD right. I had the below poster in the bedroom as a kid:

That explains a lot