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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:08 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:05 pm
Will they hold caroline leavitt, elon musk, etc. accountable if they push lies too? Or will they be hypocrites?

Boom!
For a guy who didn't say shit about anything the last administration did, you're whining rings hollow.
* your

For a guy who whined like a little bitch about the last administration, your blind support for everything this administration does also rings hollow. :coffee:
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Karoline Leavitt throws temper tantrum over AP & 'Gulf of America'
The White House claimed on Monday the Associated Press' editorial policy regarding the Gulf of Mexico’s name amounted to “lies,” as it banned one of its reporters from its events for the second day in a row.

The White House barred multiple AP reporters from covering different events on Tuesday, including an Oval Office event with President Donald Trump and Elon Musk. On Wednesday, it again prevented one of its reporters from attending Tulsi Gabbard’s swearing-in ceremony to become the Director of National Intelligence, CNN’s Brian Stelter reported.

The moves have sparked widespread condemnation from press freedom groups and the AP, which said it “plainly violates the First Amendment.”
How many Constitutional Amendments can trump trample all over?
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:11 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:08 pm

For a guy who didn't say shit about anything the last administration did, you're whining rings hollow.
* your

For a guy who whined like a little bitch about the last administration, your blind support for everything this administration does also rings hollow. :coffee:
Actually, I did very little whining. Poked fun at Pedo Joe and some other dooduses. But, you're a real piece of work. Typical government employee that thinks they are above the people and downright pissed anyone would question your effectiveness. Well chief, DOGE is uncovering the waste you like to hide, and the best part is the Republicans are onboard with exposing all the waste.

Going to be a LLLOOONNNNGGGGG four years for you with that raging TDS.
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Re: trump 0.2: MAQAA

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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:23 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:11 pm

* your

For a guy who whined like a little bitch about the last administration, your blind support for everything this administration does also rings hollow. :coffee:
Actually, I did very little whining. Poked fun at Pedo Joe and some other dooduses. But, you're a real piece of work. Typical government employee that thinks they are above the people and downright pissed anyone would question your effectiveness. Well chief, DOGE is uncovering the waste you like to hide, and the best part is the Republicans are onboard with exposing all the waste.

Going to be a LLLOOONNNNGGGGG four years for you with that raging TDS.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:16 pm Karoline Leavitt throws temper tantrum over AP & 'Gulf of America'
The White House claimed on Monday the Associated Press' editorial policy regarding the Gulf of Mexico’s name amounted to “lies,” as it banned one of its reporters from its events for the second day in a row.

The White House barred multiple AP reporters from covering different events on Tuesday, including an Oval Office event with President Donald Trump and Elon Musk. On Wednesday, it again prevented one of its reporters from attending Tulsi Gabbard’s swearing-in ceremony to become the Director of National Intelligence, CNN’s Brian Stelter reported.

The moves have sparked widespread condemnation from press freedom groups and the AP, which said it “plainly violates the First Amendment.”
How many Constitutional Amendments can trump trample all over?
You don't get points for posting shit posts Houndy#2. What amendments is Trump trampling?
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kalm wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:24 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:23 pm

Actually, I did very little whining. Poked fun at Pedo Joe and some other dooduses. But, you're a real piece of work. Typical government employee that thinks they are above the people and downright pissed anyone would question your effectiveness. Well chief, DOGE is uncovering the waste you like to hide, and the best part is the Republicans are onboard with exposing all the waste.

Going to be a LLLOOONNNNGGGGG four years for you with that raging TDS.
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This hit my inbox today the ALS Association. My mom passed away from Bulbar ALS in 2017.

We need your help urgently to protect funding for ALS research. Proposed cuts to vital research funding could derail years of progress, putting lives at risk and setting ALS research back decades.

Why this matters: The proposed cuts to the National Institutes of Health (NIH) would cripple the infrastructure and workforce necessary to continue groundbreaking ALS research. NIH and other government agencies are the largest funders of ALS research, investing in over $200 million annually.

Additionally, cuts to agencies like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA), and the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) would also harm essential programs that people living with ALS rely on every day.

Turning ALS from fatal to livable – and curing it – requires robust investment in research and access to high-quality care. Slashing these resources puts both scientific progress and the well-being of individuals living with ALS in jeopardy.

What you can do: It’s time to act — Congress must reject these cuts to ALS research and support the funding necessary to save lives. Contact your Members of Congress and urge them to protect ALS research funding. Share why this issue matters to you and to those living with ALS, including our veterans who are disproportionately affected.
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Re: trump 0.2: MAQAA

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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:25 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:24 pm

UNI works for the government?
Does he?
I don’t believe so you that’s what you posted…so.
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kalm wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:28 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:25 pm

Does he?
I don’t believe so you that’s what you posted…so.
So you don't know?
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kalm wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:26 pm This hit my inbox today the ALS Association. My mom passed away from Bulbar ALS in 2017.

We need your help urgently to protect funding for ALS research. Proposed cuts to vital research funding could derail years of progress, putting lives at risk and setting ALS research back decades.

Why this matters: The proposed cuts to the National Institutes of Health (NIH) would cripple the infrastructure and workforce necessary to continue groundbreaking ALS research. NIH and other government agencies are the largest funders of ALS research, investing in over $200 million annually.

Additionally, cuts to agencies like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA), and the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) would also harm essential programs that people living with ALS rely on every day.

Turning ALS from fatal to livable – and curing it – requires robust investment in research and access to high-quality care. Slashing these resources puts both scientific progress and the well-being of individuals living with ALS in jeopardy.

What you can do: It’s time to act — Congress must reject these cuts to ALS research and support the funding necessary to save lives. Contact your Members of Congress and urge them to protect ALS research funding. Share why this issue matters to you and to those living with ALS, including our veterans who are disproportionately affected.
Not trying to be a dick here, but do you see now what I was saying about Musk and his Rockets and Cars needing funding? Same thing here. Nobody can make money doing the research for ALS, so it's needs help to get to the finish. Different products, but same path.

On a separate note, I don't buy "years of research" will be lost without funding. Let's see what shakes out.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:25 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:16 pm Karoline Leavitt throws temper tantrum over AP & 'Gulf of America'

How many Constitutional Amendments can trump trample all over?
You don't get points for posting shit posts Houndy#2. What amendments is Trump trampling?
The 1st (freedom of the press) and the 14th (birthright citizenship) off the top of my head. I'm sure there will be more to come from the "dictator for a day".
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:37 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:25 pm

You don't get points for posting shit posts Houndy#2. What amendments is Trump trampling?
The 1st (freedom of the press) and the 14th (birthright citizenship) off the top of my head. I'm sure there will be more to come from the "dictator for a day".
Freedom of the press. How did Trump trample that?
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:35 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:26 pm This hit my inbox today the ALS Association. My mom passed away from Bulbar ALS in 2017.
Not trying to be a dick here, but do you see now what I was saying about Musk and his Rockets and Cars needing funding? Same thing here. Nobody can make money doing the research for ALS, so it's needs help to get to the finish. Different products, but same path.

On a separate note, I don't buy "years of research" will be lost without funding. Let's see what shakes out.
If musk's products can make money then they should get funding from the private sector and not need government funding. Why is that welfare whore still sucking off the gubmint teat? He should be efficiently kicked to the curb to save taxpayers money.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:47 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:35 pm

Not trying to be a dick here, but do you see now what I was saying about Musk and his Rockets and Cars needing funding? Same thing here. Nobody can make money doing the research for ALS, so it's needs help to get to the finish. Different products, but same path.

On a separate note, I don't buy "years of research" will be lost without funding. Let's see what shakes out.
If musk's products can make money then they should get funding from the private sector and not need government funding. Why is that welfare whore still sucking off the gubmint teat? He should be efficiently kicked to the curb to save taxpayers money.
Well, to help you out a little. His rocket system is drastically lowering the costs of launching rockets into space. His efforts will save untold millions and eventually billions. It's a very good ROI for the government.
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kalm wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:36 am
Baldy wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:26 pm
"Constitutional Crisis" :lol:

Calm down before you get the vapors, Margaret.

Due to the laziness of Congress, the executive branch has been delegated very broad authority how and where to spend the money that has been budgeted towards executive branch agencies. It's been this way for almost 100 years.

Has Trump given any of these courts the middle finger? Which one of these courts has ruled that Trump is in contempt of court? Where is this so-called constitutional crisis?
The Trump administration is still prohibiting National Institutes of Health (NIH) staff from issuing virtually all grant funding, an NIH official tells Popular Information. The ongoing funding freeze is also reflected in internal correspondence reviewed by Popular Information and was reiterated to staff in a meeting on Monday. The funding freeze at NIH violates two federal court injunctions, two legal experts said.

The funding freeze at NIH puts all of the research the agency funds at risk. As the primary funder of biomedical research in the United States, NIH-funded research includes everything from cancer treatments to heart disease prevention to stroke interventions.
So, the answer is that he hasn't been held in contempt of court. :lol:
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kalm wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 8:55 am Interesting take regarding Trump’s unauthorized payment halts.

What you and Ka don't seem to understand that those funds in 2013 were line item funds appropriated by CONGRESS for a specific purpose. The funds that Trump are halting are executive branch discretionary funds.
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kalm wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:24 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:23 pm
Actually, I did very little whining. Poked fun at Pedo Joe and some other dooduses. But, you're a real piece of work. Typical government employee that thinks they are above the people and downright pissed anyone would question your effectiveness. Well chief, DOGE is uncovering the waste you like to hide, and the best part is the Republicans are onboard with exposing all the waste.

Going to be a LLLOOONNNNGGGGG four years for you with that raging TDS.
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Baldy wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:17 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 8:55 am Interesting take regarding Trump’s unauthorized payment halts.

What you and Ka don't seem to understand that those funds in 2013 were line item funds appropriated by CONGRESS for a specific purpose. The funds that Trump are halting are executive branch discretionary funds.
Do you have links/proof backing up the statement that these are "executive branch discretionary funds"?
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Baldy wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:17 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 8:55 am Interesting take regarding Trump’s unauthorized payment halts.

What you and Ka don't seem to understand that those funds in 2013 were line item funds appropriated by CONGRESS for a specific purpose. The funds that Trump are halting are executive branch discretionary funds.
You think “all” of them are? Ok.
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Baldy wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:03 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:36 am


So, the answer is that he hasn't been held in contempt of court. :lol:
What do you call it when someone defies an order from the court?

I didn’t say he has been held in contempt of court. I said he IS in contempt of court.

It’s up to the judge and I guess SCOTUS whether he could be “held” in contempt of court.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:22 pm
Baldy wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:17 pm
What you and Ka don't seem to understand that those funds in 2013 were line item funds appropriated by CONGRESS for a specific purpose. The funds that Trump are halting are executive branch discretionary funds.
Do you have links/proof backing up the statement that these are "executive branch discretionary funds"?
Funding Sources
The vast majority of NIH funding comes from annual discretionary appropriations. NIH additionally receives some mandatory funding and other funding due to unique transfer or budgetary rules, as explained below. The total funding available for NIH activities, taking account of add-ons and transfers, is referred to as the NIH “program level.”8
Discretionary budget authority. NIH’s discretionary budget authority comes primarily from annual LHHS Appropriations Acts, with an additional smaller amount for the Superfund Research Program and related activities from the INT Appropriations Act.9
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kalm wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:52 pm
Baldy wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:17 pm
What you and Ka don't seem to understand that those funds in 2013 were line item funds appropriated by CONGRESS for a specific purpose. The funds that Trump are halting are executive branch discretionary funds.
You think “all” of them are? Ok.
Only the vast majority.
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Baldy wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:06 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:22 pm
Do you have links/proof backing up the statement that these are "executive branch discretionary funds"?
Funding Sources
The vast majority of NIH funding comes from annual discretionary appropriations. NIH additionally receives some mandatory funding and other funding due to unique transfer or budgetary rules, as explained below. The total funding available for NIH activities, taking account of add-ons and transfers, is referred to as the NIH “program level.”8
Discretionary budget authority. NIH’s discretionary budget authority comes primarily from annual LHHS Appropriations Acts, with an additional smaller amount for the Superfund Research Program and related activities from the INT Appropriations Act.9
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R43341
Thank you!
“Mandatory spending” is controlled by authorization acts; “discretionary spending” is controlled by appropriations acts.
In these instances, does discretionary mean that they're spent at the President's discretion or that they're allocated on an annual basis at Congress' discretion?
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:25 pm
Thank you!
“Mandatory spending” is controlled by authorization acts; “discretionary spending” is controlled by appropriations acts.
In these instances, does discretionary mean that they're spent at the President's discretion or that they're allocated on an annual basis at Congress' discretion?
They’re not. They’re congressional discretionary funds.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:35 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:26 pm This hit my inbox today the ALS Association. My mom passed away from Bulbar ALS in 2017.

Not trying to be a dick here, but do you see now what I was saying about Musk and his Rockets and Cars needing funding? Same thing here. Nobody can make money doing the research for ALS, so it's needs help to get to the finish. Different products, but same path.

On a separate note, I don't buy "years of research" will be lost without funding. Let's see what shakes out.
Different motives. One is for profit, one is a non-profit, public service.

If Elon wants to turn his rockets and shitty cars over to the government, he can… I guess.
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