Americans’ Role Seen in Uganda Anti-Gay Push

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Re: Americans’ Role Seen in Uganda Anti-Gay Push

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But We have to also recognize (and in the same line of thought) that Pedophiles typically have multiple psychological dysfunctions - and pedophilia is typically only one manifestation of a series of deep issues

There is no evidence that suggests Homosexuals have more inclination towards dangerous psychosis or neurosis than humans with biologically normal sexual impulses
I have never looked into evidence for an association between pedophilia and other problems. Also, I know that the statement about lack of association between homosexuality and other problems is the message sent by the psychiatric and psychological sciences. However, I do not trust the people in the psychiatric and psychological sciences when it comes to this issue. My belief is that, decades ago, a critical mass among people in those fields was reached such that assessment of issues related to homosexuality ceased to be objective and a crusade to "liberate" homosexuals emerged. Here is an example of what I'm talking about:

http://www.well.com/user/aquarius/hooker.htm


That is a seminal study bearing upon the issue you're talking about (association between homosexuality and other problems). First of all, I think the editorial note reflects the bias I'm talking about. Second, the methodology of the study is horrible yet it was enthusiastically embraced. Most aggregious is the fact that the investigator screened participants in this way:

"In both groups subjects were eliminated who were in therapy at the time. "

That's pretty bad considering that the point of the study was to "show" that homosexuality is not associated with disturbance. There is no way she should've been excluding anybody on the basis of disturbance.

There are plenty of other methological problems. If that study had been one telling people in the field something they didn't want to hear it would've been torn to pieces.
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Re: Americans’ Role Seen in Uganda Anti-Gay Push

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JohnStOnge wrote:
But We have to also recognize (and in the same line of thought) that Pedophiles typically have multiple psychological dysfunctions - and pedophilia is typically only one manifestation of a series of deep issues

There is no evidence that suggests Homosexuals have more inclination towards dangerous psychosis or neurosis than humans with biologically normal sexual impulses
I have never looked into evidence for an association between pedophilia and other problems. Also, I know that the statement about lack of association between homosexuality and other problems is the message sent by the psychiatric and psychological sciences. However, I do not trust the people in the psychiatric and psychological sciences when it comes to this issue. My belief is that, decades ago, a critical mass among people in those fields was reached such that assessment of issues related to homosexuality ceased to be objective and a crusade to "liberate" homosexuals emerged. Here is an example of what I'm talking about:

http://www.well.com/user/aquarius/hooker.htm


That is a seminal study bearing upon the issue you're talking about (association between homosexuality and other problems). First of all, I think the editorial note reflects the bias I'm talking about. Second, the methodology of the study is horrible yet it was enthusiastically embraced. Most aggregious is the fact that the investigator screened participants in this way:

"In both groups subjects were eliminated who were in therapy at the time. "

That's pretty bad considering that the point of the study was to "show" that homosexuality is not associated with disturbance. There is no way she should've been excluding anybody on the basis of disturbance.

There are plenty of other methological problems. If that study had been one telling people in the field something they didn't want to hear it would've been torn to pieces.
Okay...
I'm just referencing the prevailing or common study info
I certainly don't have any research information I can point to that goes any deeper than surface stuff

Basically: Study's show homosexual humans (both men and women) tend to be fairly normal other than typical signs of societal stress resulting in some mild neurosis and elevated alcoholism and elevated drug use largely attributed to "the daily stress associated with being in a minority"

Pedophiles are a whole different animal... Psychological Train Wreck is the only word that comes to mind

but all this could be meaningless anyway: I've made an assertion that I can only back up marginally as I am not a clinical psychologist nor have a spent any time since college studying these types of things

We might have a case of:
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I am only a tourist in the psychological field, but I had a little bit of criminal psychology during my career in law enforcement. Pedophiles generally have a whole smorgasbord of bugs in their heads. A controlling personality tends to be prevalent.

I don't sympathize, though. I think they should all have their d!cks cut off.

Except for that hot a$$ grade school teacher in Florida. She can keep hers.

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Chizzang wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
I have never looked into evidence for an association between pedophilia and other problems. Also, I know that the statement about lack of association between homosexuality and other problems is the message sent by the psychiatric and psychological sciences. However, I do not trust the people in the psychiatric and psychological sciences when it comes to this issue. My belief is that, decades ago, a critical mass among people in those fields was reached such that assessment of issues related to homosexuality ceased to be objective and a crusade to "liberate" homosexuals emerged. Here is an example of what I'm talking about:

http://www.well.com/user/aquarius/hooker.htm


That is a seminal study bearing upon the issue you're talking about (association between homosexuality and other problems). First of all, I think the editorial note reflects the bias I'm talking about. Second, the methodology of the study is horrible yet it was enthusiastically embraced. Most aggregious is the fact that the investigator screened participants in this way:

"In both groups subjects were eliminated who were in therapy at the time. "

That's pretty bad considering that the point of the study was to "show" that homosexuality is not associated with disturbance. There is no way she should've been excluding anybody on the basis of disturbance.

There are plenty of other methological problems. If that study had been one telling people in the field something they didn't want to hear it would've been torn to pieces.
Okay...
I'm just referencing the prevailing or common study info
I certainly don't have any research information I can point to that goes any deeper than surface stuff

Basically: Study's show homosexual humans (both men and women) tend to be fairly normal other than typical signs of societal stress resulting in some mild neurosis and elevated alcoholism and elevated drug use largely attributed to "the daily stress associated with being in a minority"

Pedophiles are a whole different animal... Psychological Train Wreck is the only word that comes to mind

but all this could be meaningless anyway: I've made an assertion that I can only back up marginally as I am not a clinical psychologist nor have a spent any time since college studying these types of things

We might have a case of:
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US evangelical spreading homophobia in Uganda:
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travelinman67 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Okay...
I'm just referencing the prevailing or common study info
I certainly don't have any research information I can point to that goes any deeper than surface stuff

Basically: Study's show homosexual humans (both men and women) tend to be fairly normal other than typical signs of societal stress resulting in some mild neurosis and elevated alcoholism and elevated drug use largely attributed to "the daily stress associated with being in a minority"

Pedophiles are a whole different animal... Psychological Train Wreck is the only word that comes to mind

but all this could be meaningless anyway: I've made an assertion that I can only back up marginally as I am not a clinical psychologist nor have a spent any time since college studying these types of things

We might have a case of:
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Ergo...

...D1B is a penguin.


:rofl:

Yeah, and you are Aristotle with your logical christian beliefs. :lol:
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