RIP White Christian America

[Chizzang]

Dude...
I only go after Fundamentalists and that's all I've ever really focused on around here
I was the one that said years ago on this forum that American Christians aren't even really Christians

a) The average american christian has no idea whats actually in the bible
b) doesn't believe jesus is coming back - or buy into the "end times prophecy"
c) and cares little for the accuracy or validity of the miracles

Being a christian is just easy... its what we are in america its not what we believe

Remember - I believe in god too
Not anything like cosmic santa claus like the base model Christian god - but god nonetheless

It's Fundamentalism that breeds violence and hatred
the average america christian doesn't even know what Christianity actually is



I'm not sure (other than the impeachment) whats got you so upset ?
and Trumps pee pee is tiny so you should be able to go back there with not much trouble

So by "average christian" you mean fundamentalist?

Question: Are fundamentalists more or less likely know what's in the bible, believe Jesus is coming back, and cares about the validity of the miracles?

Fundamentalism by definition means you believe it all hook line and sinker

inversely
The average white american christian isn't even actually a christian by definition
they call themselves christian but don't buy the doctrine

see: Ivy right here on this forum

[SeattleGriz]

Oh I thought we were talking about white Christians... a demo that most definitely is shrinking no matter what poll you look at

But if you want to shift the goalposts over to the fundies well then bless your heart

But it does beg the question - if white Christians are going away but fundamentalism is remaining relatively static, then who are they recruiting?

Dude...
I only go after Fundamentalists and that's all I've ever really focused on around here
I was the one that said years ago on this forum that American Christians aren't even really Christians

a) The average american christian has no idea whats actually in the bible
b) doesn't believe jesus is coming back - or buy into the "end times prophecy"
c) and cares little for the accuracy or validity of the miracles

Being a christian is just easy... its what we are in america its not what we believe

Remember - I believe in god too
Not anything like cosmic santa claus like the base model Christian god - but god nonetheless

It's Fundamentalism that breeds violence and hatred
the average america christian doesn't even know what Christianity actually is



I'm not sure (other than the impeachment) whats got you so upset ?
and Trumps pee pee is tiny so you should be able to go back there with not much trouble

So how would Christians "make it tougher" to be a Christian if it's so easy in America.

What would you recommend?

[Chizzang]

Dude...
I only go after Fundamentalists and that's all I've ever really focused on around here
I was the one that said years ago on this forum that American Christians aren't even really Christians

a) The average american christian has no idea whats actually in the bible
b) doesn't believe jesus is coming back - or buy into the "end times prophecy"
c) and cares little for the accuracy or validity of the miracles

Being a christian is just easy... its what we are in america its not what we believe

Remember - I believe in god too
Not anything like cosmic santa claus like the base model Christian god - but god nonetheless

It's Fundamentalism that breeds violence and hatred
the average america christian doesn't even know what Christianity actually is



I'm not sure (other than the impeachment) whats got you so upset ?
and Trumps pee pee is tiny so you should be able to go back there with not much trouble

So how would Christians "make it tougher" to be a Christian if it's so easy in America.

What would you recommend?

I think everybody that wants to call themselves christian is a christian - its cool with me
even mormons call themselves christian - as you pointed out - they actually are not

thats the thing about clubs or ideologies or fan bases



they don't always follow the original set of rules

[SeattleGriz]

So how would Christians "make it tougher" to be a Christian if it's so easy in America.

What would you recommend?

I think everybody that wants to call themselves christian is a christian - its cool with me
even mormons call themselves christian - as you pointed out - they actually are not

thats the thing about clubs or ideologies or fan bases



they don't always follow the original set of rules

Yes, but I would hope the minimum would be accepting that Jesus atoned for your sins. That's a really important part! Lol

[kalm]

I think everybody that wants to call themselves christian is a christian - its cool with me
even mormons call themselves christian - as you pointed out - they actually are not

thats the thing about clubs or ideologies or fan bases



they don't always follow the original set of rules

Yes, but I would hope the minimum would be accepting that Jesus atoned for your sins. That's a really important part! Lol

I’ve heard a few people say that’s the only part that really matters.

[kalm]

So how would Christians "make it tougher" to be a Christian if it's so easy in America.

What would you recommend?

I think everybody that wants to call themselves christian is a christian - its cool with me
even mormons call themselves christian - as you pointed out - they actually are not

thats the thing about clubs or ideologies or fan bases



they don't always follow the original set of rules

You have a dizzying intellect.

[dbackjon]

I think everybody that wants to call themselves christian is a christian - its cool with me
even mormons call themselves christian - as you pointed out - they actually are not

thats the thing about clubs or ideologies or fan bases



they don't always follow the original set of rules

You have a dizzying intellect.

Inconceivable!

[Chizzang]

I think everybody that wants to call themselves christian is a christian - its cool with me
even mormons call themselves christian - as you pointed out - they actually are not

thats the thing about clubs or ideologies or fan bases



they don't always follow the original set of rules

You have a dizzying intellect.

[kalm]

You have a dizzying intellect.

Dback got it ^^

[Chizzang]

Dback got it ^^

I see that he "got it" and that only serves to make the whole thing more annoying...

[kalm]

Dback got it ^^

I see that he "got it" and that only serves to make the whole thing more annoying...

Just wait till I get started! Now...where was I...oh yeah, right....

So fundamentalists are the only true Christians but American Christians are guilty of ABC. Mormons aren’t Christians either even though they claim to be?

Therefore, fundamentalists must not be American?

(I’m capable of annoying you to death...or at least to the “pain”)

[SunCoastBlueHen]

I think everybody that wants to call themselves christian is a christian - its cool with me
even mormons call themselves christian - as you pointed out - they actually are not

thats the thing about clubs or ideologies or fan bases



they don't always follow the original set of rules

Yes, but I would hope the minimum would be accepting that Jesus atoned for your sins. That's a really important part! Lol

So you can be a total fucking asshole prick your entire life and all is well as long as you profess to Jesus? What a bunch of shit. To me, Christianity should be based on the teachings of Jesus, which was a lesson in how to live. The parts of the bible that are worthwhile are the words directly attributed to Jesus. Much wisdom there. The Christianity you speak of is contrived and man made.

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[Chizzang]

Yes, but I would hope the minimum would be accepting that Jesus atoned for your sins. That's a really important part! Lol

So you can be a total fucking asshole prick your entire life and all is well as long as you profess to Jesus? What a bunch of shit. To me, Christianity should be based on the teachings of Jesus, which was a lesson in how to live. The parts of the bible that are worthwhile are the words directly attributed to Jesus. Much wisdom there. The Christianity you speak of is contrived and man made.

This ^

[kalm]

Yes, but I would hope the minimum would be accepting that Jesus atoned for your sins. That's a really important part! Lol

So you can be a total fucking asshole prick your entire life and all is well as long as you profess to Jesus? What a bunch of shit. To me, Christianity should be based on the teachings of Jesus, which was a lesson in how to live. The parts of the bible that are worthwhile are the words directly attributed to Jesus. Much wisdom there. The Christianity you speak of is contrived and man made.

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My old boss was raised in a very Irish Catholic family. He always used the old line ‘go to church 1 day a week so you can be an asshole the other 6’.

[SeattleGriz]

Yes, but I would hope the minimum would be accepting that Jesus atoned for your sins. That's a really important part! Lol

So you can be a total fucking asshole prick your entire life and all is well as long as you profess to Jesus? What a bunch of shit. To me, Christianity should be based on the teachings of Jesus, which was a lesson in how to live. The parts of the bible that are worthwhile are the words directly attributed to Jesus. Much wisdom there. The Christianity you speak of is contrived and man made.

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I was simply defining what would be needed at a minimum to call yourself a Christian.

How you carry yourself is a different discussion. I wasn't speaking to that.

But to answer your question, yes, you could be a turd your whole life and still be a Christian as long as you accepted.

[Chizzang]

So you can be a total fucking asshole prick your entire life and all is well as long as you profess to Jesus? What a bunch of shit. To me, Christianity should be based on the teachings of Jesus, which was a lesson in how to live. The parts of the bible that are worthwhile are the words directly attributed to Jesus. Much wisdom there. The Christianity you speak of is contrived and man made.

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I was simply defining what would be needed at a minimum to call yourself a Christian.

How you carry yourself is a different discussion. I wasn't speaking to that.

Can we chat about the prosperity gospel next... Thats my favorite gospel

[SeattleGriz]

I was simply defining what would be needed at a minimum to call yourself a Christian.

How you carry yourself is a different discussion. I wasn't speaking to that.

Can we chat about the prosperity gospel next... Thats my favorite gospel

I thought you were kidding last time you said it, but it's a thing. Not very familiar with it.

[SunCoastBlueHen]

So you can be a total fucking asshole prick your entire life and all is well as long as you profess to Jesus? What a bunch of shit. To me, Christianity should be based on the teachings of Jesus, which was a lesson in how to live. The parts of the bible that are worthwhile are the words directly attributed to Jesus. Much wisdom there. The Christianity you speak of is contrived and man made.

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I was simply defining what would be needed at a minimum to call yourself a Christian.

How you carry yourself is a different discussion. I wasn't speaking to that.

But to answer your question, yes, you could be a turd your whole life and still be a Christian as long as you accepted.

So as a minimal Christian, are you rewarded with heaven even if you're an evil turd? Conversely, is a non-believing person who lived a good, loving and charitable life still condemned to hell?

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[SeattleGriz]

I was simply defining what would be needed at a minimum to call yourself a Christian.

How you carry yourself is a different discussion. I wasn't speaking to that.

But to answer your question, yes, you could be a turd your whole life and still be a Christian as long as you accepted.

So as a minimal Christian, are you rewarded with heaven even if you're an evil turd? Conversely, is a non-believing person who lived a good, loving and charitable life still condemned to hell?

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Yes. It all hinges on accepting Christ.

[SunCoastBlueHen]

So as a minimal Christian, are you rewarded with heaven even if you're an evil turd? Conversely, is a non-believing person who lived a good, loving and charitable life still condemned to hell?

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Yes. It all hinges on accepting Christ.

So, your version of Jesus is someone who would prefer to have his ass kissed than to live according to his message. Got it.

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[SeattleGriz]

Yes. It all hinges on accepting Christ.

So, your version of Jesus is someone who would prefer to have his ass kissed than to live according to his message. Got it.

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I didn't say anything about Jesus other than to give you the requirement you asked about.

Of course someone should try to live a decent, caring life.

[SeattleGriz]

Yes. It all hinges on accepting Christ.

So, your version of Jesus is someone who would prefer to have his ass kissed than to live according to his message. Got it.

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It hasn't gone unnoticed that your version cannot work in Christianity. You have to accept Jesus.

[kalm]

Can we chat about the prosperity gospel next... Thats my favorite gospel

I thought you were kidding last time you said it, but it's a thing. Not very familiar with it.

It’s based on convincing poor and/or closed minded people to give money to a rich dude because they will be provided a chance to get there’s someday.

Oh wait...that’s the Republican Party.

Nevermind.

[CID1990]

Oh I thought we were talking about white Christians... a demo that most definitely is shrinking no matter what poll you look at

But if you want to shift the goalposts over to the fundies well then bless your heart

But it does beg the question - if white Christians are going away but fundamentalism is remaining relatively static, then who are they recruiting?

Dude...
I only go after Fundamentalists and that's all I've ever really focused on around here
I was the one that said years ago on this forum that American Christians aren't even really Christians

a) The average american christian has no idea whats actually in the bible
b) doesn't believe jesus is coming back - or buy into the "end times prophecy"
c) and cares little for the accuracy or validity of the miracles

Being a christian is just easy... its what we are in america its not what we believe

Remember - I believe in god too
Not anything like cosmic santa claus like the base model Christian god - but god nonetheless

It's Fundamentalism that breeds violence and hatred
the average america christian doesn't even know what Christianity actually is



I'm not sure (other than the impeachment) whats got you so upset ?
and Trumps pee pee is tiny so you should be able to go back there with not much trouble

A JSO length screed with nothing we haven’t read before

multiple Cheeto pecker references

sounds like I’m not the one who needs a hug

My work is done here


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[CID1990]

Yes, but I would hope the minimum would be accepting that Jesus atoned for your sins. That's a really important part! Lol

So you can be a total fucking asshole prick your entire life and all is well as long as you profess to Jesus? What a bunch of shit. To me, Christianity should be based on the teachings of Jesus, which was a lesson in how to live. The parts of the bible that are worthwhile are the words directly attributed to Jesus. Much wisdom there. The Christianity you speak of is contrived and man made.

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This was one of my earliest turnoffs with Christianity -

All the un-Christianlike Christians


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