2025 and Beyond Domestic Rightist Violence Thread

[kalm]

If you’re too lazy to make two clicks and see the methodology, why are commenting?

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... uyUWOcKl06

(SG’s next move will be to show his expertise as a data analyst and trash CSIS as an untrustworthy source )

Yes, nevermind I took a 9 month course on data analytics from Michigan State while working with Data Scientists and Business Intelligence Analysts, but data analytics is not the problem with the "report". The issue is they chose arbitrary definitions of what constituted the various forms of terrorism, then used sources like ADL and SPLC for occurrences while leaving many events off the list because who knows why.

This is exactly what I keep trying to point out to you when post some stupid model like lives saved by COVID vaccine or temperature variance in climate change as fact.

People who are biased are creating the parameters in which the model or data set functions. I can guarantee if you replaced every person that had a hand in creating the "Terrorism Report" with different people, you'd get a different result, even if they matched ideologically.

This is why you continuously fall for appeals to authority and credentialism. You simply don't understand a good majority of the results are due to the summation of individual biases.

Perfectly on cue!

[SeattleGriz]

Yes, nevermind I took a 9 month course on data analytics from Michigan State while working with Data Scientists and Business Intelligence Analysts, but data analytics is not the problem with the "report". The issue is they chose arbitrary definitions of what constituted the various forms of terrorism, then used sources like ADL and SPLC for occurrences while leaving many events off the list because who knows why.

This is exactly what I keep trying to point out to you when post some stupid model like lives saved by COVID vaccine or temperature variance in climate change as fact.

People who are biased are creating the parameters in which the model or data set functions. I can guarantee if you replaced every person that had a hand in creating the "Terrorism Report" with different people, you'd get a different result, even if they matched ideologically.

This is why you continuously fall for appeals to authority and credentialism. You simply don't understand a good majority of the results are due to the summation of individual biases.

You are just as guilty of this as kalm. You like to point out when causes that you oppose are less stringent with data/information then they should be with data but you ignore it when causes you support (rfk jr, musk/doge) do the same.

How about an example instead of a rather broad unbacked statement?

[SeattleGriz]

Yes, nevermind I took a 9 month course on data analytics from Michigan State while working with Data Scientists and Business Intelligence Analysts, but data analytics is not the problem with the "report". The issue is they chose arbitrary definitions of what constituted the various forms of terrorism, then used sources like ADL and SPLC for occurrences while leaving many events off the list because who knows why.

This is exactly what I keep trying to point out to you when post some stupid model like lives saved by COVID vaccine or temperature variance in climate change as fact.

People who are biased are creating the parameters in which the model or data set functions. I can guarantee if you replaced every person that had a hand in creating the "Terrorism Report" with different people, you'd get a different result, even if they matched ideologically.

This is why you continuously fall for appeals to authority and credentialism. You simply don't understand a good majority of the results are due to the summation of individual biases.

Perfectly on cue!

I aim to please!

[kalm]

You are just as guilty of this as kalm. You like to point out when causes that you oppose are less stringent with data/information then they should be with data but you ignore it when causes you support (rfk jr, musk/doge) do the same.

How about an example instead of a rather broad unbacked statement?

This.

How dare he associate me with SeaGriz.

Jeez!

[UNI88]

You are just as guilty of this as kalm. You like to point out when causes that you oppose are less stringent with data/information then they should be with data but you ignore it when causes you support (rfk jr, musk/doge) do the same.

How about an example instead of a rather broad unbacked statement?

Look at the "savings" that doge used to display on their website where they:
- overstated contract savings by factors of up to 1,000.
- double and triple counted savings.
- counted as savings, contracts where the money had already been spent/committed.

Do I really need to provide examples of rjk jr? Is there data to back up his claims about tylenol?

[SeattleGriz]

How about an example instead of a rather broad unbacked statement?

Look at the "savings" that doge used to display on their website where they:
- overstated contract savings by factors of up to 1,000.
- double and triple counted savings.
- counted as savings, contracts where the money had already been spent/committed.

Do I really need to provide examples of rjk jr? Is there data to back up his claims about tylenol?

Was I on her claiming DOGE estimates were accurate? No.

In regards to the Tylenol claim, it's well known Tylenol told pregnant women to check with their provider and there are true signals of concern. I've admitted I didn't listen to the CDCs claim about autism because I've previously stated that we'll probably never know due to our lack of science capabilities, but again, I wasn't on here proclaiming it was accurate.

You seem to have this amazing ability to conflate what others have said with my stances. The disconnect can only be purposeful.

[UNI88]

Look at the "savings" that doge used to display on their website where they:
- overstated contract savings by factors of up to 1,000.
- double and triple counted savings.
- counted as savings, contracts where the money had already been spent/committed.

Do I really need to provide examples of rjk jr? Is there data to back up his claims about tylenol?

Was I on her claiming DOGE estimates were accurate? No.

In regards to the Tylenol claim, it's well known Tylenol told pregnant women to check with their provider and there are true signals of concern. I've admitted I didn't listen to the CDCs claim about autism because I've previously stated that we'll probably never know due to our lack of science capabilities, but again, I wasn't on here proclaiming it was accurate.

You seem to have this amazing ability to conflate what others have said with my stances. The disconnect can only be purposeful.

It's not just about what you proclaim is accurate it's about you climbing on your high horse and selectively cheery picking when to criticize the source/methods of data/information. You only do it to kalm or other posters critical of trump but don't even bat an eye at the validity of the crappy data/information posted by fellow MAQA yahoos like the doge data. You were also critical of the CDC scientists and said nothing when rfk jr came out immediately after cleaning house with the tylenol claims without being to back them up with scientific studies.

You are just as biased as kalm and it shows in when and why you choose to criticize other posters.

[SeattleGriz]

Was I on her claiming DOGE estimates were accurate? No.

In regards to the Tylenol claim, it's well known Tylenol told pregnant women to check with their provider and there are true signals of concern. I've admitted I didn't listen to the CDCs claim about autism because I've previously stated that we'll probably never know due to our lack of science capabilities, but again, I wasn't on here proclaiming it was accurate.

You seem to have this amazing ability to conflate what others have said with my stances. The disconnect can only be purposeful.

It's not just about what you proclaim is accurate it's about you climbing on your high horse and selectively cheery picking when to criticize the source/methods of data/information. You only do it to kalm or other posters critical of trump but don't even bat an eye at the validity of the crappy data/information posted by fellow MAQA yahoos like the doge data. You were also critical of the CDC scientists and said nothing when rfk jr came out immediately after cleaning house with the tylenol claims without being to back them up with scientific studies.

You are just as biased as kalm and it shows in when and why you choose to criticize other posters.

Now I have to fight your battles for you?

I am critical of the CDC scientists because they are only presenting one side of the argument when they know better. Once again, saying there is no link between adverse events when they cannot prove them, doesn't mean there aren't any. The science is unable to prove harms or lack thereof if it's not a whopper like smoking. I said it before, but apparently you don't give a shit about the outliers who's genetics predisposes them to injury.

I thought Lefty's like you say that "every life matters"?

[kalm]

Was I on her claiming DOGE estimates were accurate? No.

In regards to the Tylenol claim, it's well known Tylenol told pregnant women to check with their provider and there are true signals of concern. I've admitted I didn't listen to the CDCs claim about autism because I've previously stated that we'll probably never know due to our lack of science capabilities, but again, I wasn't on here proclaiming it was accurate.

You seem to have this amazing ability to conflate what others have said with my stances. The disconnect can only be purposeful.

It's not just about what you proclaim is accurate it's about you climbing on your high horse and selectively cheery picking when to criticize the source/methods of data/information. You only do it to kalm or other posters critical of trump but don't even bat an eye at the validity of the crappy data/information posted by fellow MAQA yahoos like the doge data. You were also critical of the CDC scientists and said nothing when rfk jr came out immediately after cleaning house with the tylenol claims without being to back them up with scientific studies.

You are just as biased as kalm and it shows in when and why you choose to criticize other posters.

I’m biased toward scientific experts with education and careers in their chosen fiends. There’s a wide variation in human bodies and things like public policy, regulation, and best science/practices serve an entire population.

[UNI88]

Former Jan. 6 defendant arrested on kidnapping and aggravated assault charges

A Donald Trump supporter who fired off a gun during the 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol was arrested last month on kidnapping and sexual assault charges, according to the Cook County Sheriff’s Office in Illinois.
...
Online “sedition hunters” correctly identified Banuelos, 40, and gave his name to the FBI in February 2021. Months later, on July 4, 2021, Banuelos stabbed a man — Christopher Thomas Senn — to death in Salt Lake City, but was not charged after claiming self-defense.

Sounds like a real peach that trump pardoned. Why does he insist on releasing criminals to prey on civilians?

[UNI88]

Indiana lawmaker is the victim of swatting after Trump criticized him over redistricting

An Indiana state senator was the victim of a swatting incident Sunday just hours after President Donald Trump criticized him and other Republican lawmakers for not redrawing the state's congressional map, according to the lawmaker and the local sheriff.

Vigo County Sheriff Derek Fell said in a post on his office's Facebook account that an email was sent to a police department "advising harm had been done to persons inside a home," which was Goode's address.
...
Swatting is a term for when someone makes a false report to law enforcement with the goal of intimidating or harassing victims with a police response.

Trump had blasted Goode, a Republican, alongside other Indiana politicians on his social media site Sunday morning for not pursuing redistricting efforts in the state to favor the GOP in next year’s midterm elections. On Friday, the state Senate Republican leader, Rodric Bray, announced that the chamber did not have enough support to move forward with redrawing the map.

Swatting lawmakers or judges is just as wrong as doxing law enforcement.

[BDKJMU]

Indiana lawmaker is the victim of swatting after Trump criticized him over redistricting

An Indiana state senator was the victim of a swatting incident Sunday just hours after President Donald Trump criticized him and other Republican lawmakers for not redrawing the state's congressional map, according to the lawmaker and the local sheriff.

Vigo County Sheriff Derek Fell said in a post on his office's Facebook account that an email was sent to a police department "advising harm had been done to persons inside a home," which was Goode's address.
...
Swatting is a term for when someone makes a false report to law enforcement with the goal of intimidating or harassing victims with a police response.

Trump had blasted Goode, a Republican, alongside other Indiana politicians on his social media site Sunday morning for not pursuing redistricting efforts in the state to favor the GOP in next year’s midterm elections. On Friday, the state Senate Republican leader, Rodric Bray, announced that the chamber did not have enough support to move forward with redrawing the map.

Swatting lawmakers or judges is just as wrong as doxing law enforcement.

Evidence that a ‘Rightist’ is behind the swatting?

[UNI88]

Indiana lawmaker is the victim of swatting after Trump criticized him over redistricting

Swatting lawmakers or judges is just as wrong as doxing law enforcement.

Evidence that a ‘Rightist’ is behind the swatting?

Occam's razor

And that's radical, unhinged extreme rightist.

[UNI88]

‘HANG THEM’: Trump Boosts Message Calling For Executing Democrats In Congress

In a series of unhinged posts on his social media site, Truth Social, Trump boosted an anonymous user’s message that read, “HANG THEM GEORGE WASHINGTON WOULD !!” The message was in response to a news story about the video released Tuesday by six Democrats in the House and Senate, all with military or intelligence backgrounds.

In another message, Trump himself called it “SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR, punishable by DEATH!” that members of Congress would release such a video.

“It’s called SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL,” the president wrote, in still another message. “Each one of these traitors to our Country should be ARRESTED AND PUT ON TRIAL. Their words cannot be allowed to stand - We won’t have a Country anymore!!! An example MUST BE SET. President DJT.”

In fact, U.S. military service members have a right to refuse illegal orders, and in some cases, a duty to do so. Everyone in the military swears an oath to the U.S. Constitution, not to a particular president of the United States or anyone else in the chain of command.

There he goes thinking that he is synonymous with the country and that the military should be loyal to him.

The twat that pardoned the seditious January 6 rioters has no room to call anyone else's behavior seditious and punishable by death.

[BDKJMU]

‘HANG THEM’: Trump Boosts Message Calling For Executing Democrats In Congress

In a series of unhinged posts on his social media site, Truth Social, Trump boosted an anonymous user’s message that read, “HANG THEM GEORGE WASHINGTON WOULD !!” The message was in response to a news story about the video released Tuesday by six Democrats in the House and Senate, all with military or intelligence backgrounds.

In another message, Trump himself called it “SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR, punishable by DEATH!” that members of Congress would release such a video.

“It’s called SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL,” the president wrote, in still another message. “Each one of these traitors to our Country should be ARRESTED AND PUT ON TRIAL. Their words cannot be allowed to stand - We won’t have a Country anymore!!! An example MUST BE SET. President DJT.”

In fact, U.S. military service members have a right to refuse illegal orders, and in some cases, a duty to do so. Everyone in the military swears an oath to the U.S. Constitution, not to a particular president of the United States or anyone else in the chain of command.

There he goes thinking that he is synonymous with the country and that the military should be loyal to him.

The twat that pardoned the seditious January 6 rioters has no room to call anyone else's behavior seditious and punishable by death.

Maybe Donk members of Congress shouldn‘t have put out a video encouraging members of the military to disobey orders..

[kalm]

‘HANG THEM’: Trump Boosts Message Calling For Executing Democrats In Congress



There he goes thinking that he is synonymous with the country and that the military should be loyal to him.

The twat that pardoned the seditious January 6 rioters has no room to call anyone else's behavior seditious and punishable by death.

Maybe Donk members of Congress shouldn‘t have put out a video encouraging members of the military to disobey orders..

Seriously Clark?

It wasn’t an encouragement it was a reminder given by actual veterans. You would have argued against the same idea at Nuremberg?

Man are you MAGA types fragile sometimes.

[Caribbean Hen]

Was I on her claiming DOGE estimates were accurate? No.

In regards to the Tylenol claim, it's well known Tylenol told pregnant women to check with their provider and there are true signals of concern. I've admitted I didn't listen to the CDCs claim about autism because I've previously stated that we'll probably never know due to our lack of science capabilities, but again, I wasn't on here proclaiming it was accurate.

You seem to have this amazing ability to conflate what others have said with my stances. The disconnect can only be purposeful.

It's not just about what you proclaim is accurate it's about you climbing on your high horse and selectively cheery picking when to criticize the source/methods of data/information. You only do it to kalm or other posters critical of trump but don't even bat an eye at the validity of the crappy data/information posted by fellow MAQA yahoos like the doge data. You were also critical of the CDC scientists and said nothing when rfk jr came out immediately after cleaning house with the tylenol claims without being to back them up with scientific studies.

You are just as biased as kalm and it shows in when and why you choose to criticize other posters.

Because MAGA yahoos are not on here making shit up like Klamdami and yourself

[UNI88]

It's not just about what you proclaim is accurate it's about you climbing on your high horse and selectively cheery picking when to criticize the source/methods of data/information. You only do it to kalm or other posters critical of trump but don't even bat an eye at the validity of the crappy data/information posted by fellow MAQA yahoos like the doge data. You were also critical of the CDC scientists and said nothing when rfk jr came out immediately after cleaning house with the tylenol claims without being to back them up with scientific studies.

You are just as biased as kalm and it shows in when and why you choose to criticize other posters.

Because MAGA yahoos are not on here making shit up like Klamdami and yourself

Making shit up do you like claiming that Rand Paul stated that those "drugs don’t have a pathway into the United States" when de didn't?

MAQA yahoos like yourself would never do that?

[UNI88]

‘HANG THEM’: Trump Boosts Message Calling For Executing Democrats In Congress

There he goes thinking that he is synonymous with the country and that the military should be loyal to him.

The twat that pardoned the seditious January 6 rioters has no room to call anyone else's behavior seditious and punishable by death.

Maybe Donk members of Congress shouldn‘t have put out a video encouraging members of the military to disobey orders..

They didn't. They told them they should disobey illegal or unconstitutional orders which they not only should, they actually have a duty to disobey. Their oath is to the Constitution not the president.

[Caribbean Hen]

Because MAGA yahoos are not on here making shit up like Klamdami and yourself

Making shit up do you like claiming that Rand Paul stated that those "drugs don’t have a pathway into the United States" when de didn't?

MAQA yahoos like yourself would never do that?

You know very little about the pathways of drugs into the United States so maybe you should consider shutting the fuck up or study up

[UNI88]

Making shit up do you like claiming that Rand Paul stated that those "drugs don’t have a pathway into the United States" when de didn't?

MAQA yahoos like yourself would never do that?

You know very little about the pathways of drugs into the United States so maybe you should consider shutting the fuck up or study up

Well aren’t you a sensitive little snowflake when you get called out for making shit up.


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[kalm]

[Caribbean Hen]

You know very little about the pathways of drugs into the United States so maybe you should consider shutting the fuck up or study up

Well aren’t you a sensitive little snowflake when you get called out for making shit up.


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I’m sensitive to you wasting your money in college

[UNI88]

Murder-Suicide Survivor, 13 — Who Watched Stepdad Kill Mom Before Shooting Her in the Face — Speaks Out from Hospital

[kalm]

This seems like the appropriate thread.