Tea Party Protesters Protest D.C. Metro Service

[Col Hogan]

My problem with the neocons and Iraq is essentially threefold:
1) IMO they were bound and determined to go to war and to support their efforts presented the evidence that most strongly supported case for WMDs in Iraq. If a more complete picture were presented, Congress might not have voted in favor of the war.
2) They were completely delusional when it came to planning for the "peace". They appeared to believe that Americans would be welcomed with open arms and hailed as liberators for getting rid of Saddam and that the people would lay down their arms (and centuries old conflicts) and embrace western style democracy. Anyone with a rudimentary understanding of Islam, Arab and local tribal cultures should have understood that it wouldn't be that easy. This hubris cost thousands of lives and diverted our attention from what should have been its focus in Afghanistan.
3) They labeled anyone who disagreed with them as unpatriotic (kind of like what Obama's followers are doing in labeling anyone who disagrees with them as racist).

I don't have a problem with conservatives calling out Obama and his supporters for their faults but to do so without acknowledging that those they supported are guilty of similar offenses is disingenous. And which faults/offenses are more egregrious is a matter of opinion and others opinions should be respected.

And I do enjoy sitting here in the middle pointing out both sides imperfections.

Well put UNI....

As he usually does...

[HIU 93]

Gotta agree with Mr. thekidd. I was impressed with how the metro worked...

Metro works? Really? Could have fooled me.

[Col Hogan]

Gotta agree with Mr. thekidd. I was impressed with how the metro worked...

Metro works? Really? Could have fooled me.

You're spoiled...it's still a good system...not as good as in the past, because all the local jurisdictions have tried to run it on the cheap...but it's still pretty good...

[Col Hogan]

OK, it has issues....but it's still not a bad system...

[Col Hogan]

All right....stop shouting.....it sucks sometimes...but it's still not that bad....

[Biff]

OK, it has issues....but it's still not a bad system...

When I travel to DC, I enjoy utilizing the Metro System. Better than taxi's or rental cars if you ask me. However, I don't know what is being paid by taxpayers vice pure ticket sells.

[HIU 93]

Metro works? Really? Could have fooled me.

You're spoiled...it's still a good system...not as good as in the past, because all the local jurisdictions have tried to run it on the cheap...but it's still pretty good...

To each his own. I hated Metro yesterday, I hate Metro today, and I'll hate it tomorrow. If you see me on Metro, then you'll know I'm homeless and begging. Since you know me, I would hope you would drop something in my cup. maybe?

[bandl]

You know what I love about the metro?

The 28 minute waits on saturday night you are forced to endure because you just missed the last train by 3 seconds

[HIU 93]

Oh, yeah- how the hell did we get from an argument about the quality of metro to gay Shiites? That is some fragal-nagal bull right there.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

You know what I love about the metro?

The 28 minute waits on saturday night you are forced to endure because you just missed the last train by 3 seconds

in minneapolis-st. paul it's a one hour wait for a bus... and you arent in a metro station - you're on the street... in january...

DC Metro is the BEST metro system i've encountered in the US, and by a good margin (Philly and San Fran get consideration for 2nd)

[Col Hogan]

OK, it has issues....but it's still not a bad system...

When I travel to DC, I enjoy utilizing the Metro System. Better than taxi's or rental cars if you ask me. However, I don't know what is being paid by taxpayers vice pure ticket sells.

They are funded by some federal funds (because it serves the huge federal government presence), and each state kicks in some (DC, Maryland, Virginia) and the counties it serves (both subway and bus service) all kick in some....then fares, advertising, parking fees, etc, in theory make up the rest...

The counties and states have refused to set up a permanent funding system, and are always trying to get by on the cheap...which makes it hard for the management to do planned upgrades...

[Biff]

They are funded by some federal funds (because it serves the huge federal government presence), and each state kicks in some (DC, Maryland, Virginia) and the counties it serves (both subway and bus service) all kick in some....then fares, advertising, parking fees, etc, in theory make up the rest...

The counties and states have refused to set up a permanent funding system, and are always trying to get by on the cheap...which makes it hard for the management to do planned upgrades...

I know half the guys using the system are working for or supporting the federal government. The states only have a small portion actually getting the support. I would agree with trying to limit funding. They could certainly raise the prices a little. It is still a lot less expensive than a taxi. Then again I am a big fan of people paying for the services recieved not some guy in southern Virginia paying taxes on it when they will likely never use it.

[Col Hogan]

They are funded by some federal funds (because it serves the huge federal government presence), and each state kicks in some (DC, Maryland, Virginia) and the counties it serves (both subway and bus service) all kick in some....then fares, advertising, parking fees, etc, in theory make up the rest...

The counties and states have refused to set up a permanent funding system, and are always trying to get by on the cheap...which makes it hard for the management to do planned upgrades...

I know half the guys using the system are working for or supporting the federal government. The states only have a small portion actually getting the support. I would agree with trying to limit funding. They could certainly raise the prices a little. It is still a lot less expensive than a taxi. Then again I am a big fan of people paying for the services recieved not some guy in southern Virginia paying taxes on it when they will likely never use it.

And I'm with you most of the way...the states and counties need to pay because if they don't, and Metro falls apart, the people are going to be on the roads and highways WHICH THE STATES AND COUNTIES PAY FOR in much higher numbers....putting a much bigger fiscal and physical strain on the road systems...

Like the old Fram commercial said "You can pay me now, or pay me later"...

[bandl]

You know what I love about the metro?

The 28 minute waits on saturday night you are forced to endure because you just missed the last train by 3 seconds

in minneapolis-st. paul it's a one hour wait for a bus... and you arent in a metro station - you're on the street... in january...

DC Metro is the BEST metro system i've encountered in the US, and by a good margin (Philly and San Fran get consideration for 2nd)

Most of the metro stations outside DC are outside...

and bus waits are just as long as you stated.

But I've never been on a metro system where you can be stranded for a half hour or more when no work is being done in the tracks...

[HIU 93]

I know half the guys using the system are working for or supporting the federal government. The states only have a small portion actually getting the support. I would agree with trying to limit funding. They could certainly raise the prices a little. It is still a lot less expensive than a taxi. Then again I am a big fan of people paying for the services recieved not some guy in southern Virginia paying taxes on it when they will likely never use it.

And I'm with you most of the way...the states and counties need to pay because if they don't, and Metro falls apart, the people are going to be on the roads and highways WHICH THE STATES AND COUNTIES PAY FOR in much higher numbers....putting a much bigger fiscal and physical strain on the road systems...

Like the old Fram commercial said "You can pay me now, or pay me later"...

I'll take now. Can I get that I asked for earlier? I need gas.


Just bustin' balls, Col.

[AZGrizFan]

Quantify.....got any data supporting your statement or are you just taking your daily stroll with broad generalizations?..apples to oranges....there should be nothing inherent in a Tea Party supporter vs general population that would make them more likely fight in the military....about like stating a President who served in the military is more likely to start a war....

Now let's see...
If I know the script on this one - after reviewing this entire thread - somebody's about to get accused of hating America... I'm not sure who but usually we wind up somewhere in that neighborhood

It's you.

[Col Hogan]

And I'm with you most of the way...the states and counties need to pay because if they don't, and Metro falls apart, the people are going to be on the roads and highways WHICH THE STATES AND COUNTIES PAY FOR in much higher numbers....putting a much bigger fiscal and physical strain on the road systems...

Like the old Fram commercial said "You can pay me now, or pay me later"...

I'll take now. Can I get that I asked for earlier? I need gas.


Just bustin' balls, Col.

I only have a quarter....you got change????