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kalm wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:00 am
89Hen wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:33 am

Fail and fail. :coffee:
Right and right.

If we had chosen to get the reinfection rate down to a manageable number where track and trace could be effectively used we more than likely wouldn’t be having this discussion. We fucked that up and continue to.

And Fiver’s demonstrates the disregard the right has for educators. It’s a tired, worn out trope. Notice how we don’t see people suggesting that pharmacist consultants, engineers, and mortgage underwriters should be forced to the office where they have all of their resources and can be monitored to make sure they’re working?
Teachers just need to wear a mask, amiright?
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kalm wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:10 am
HI54UNI wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:07 am

The teachers I know feel the same way. Generally speaking from what I have seen the most vocal against going back are big union shills.
Everyone wants to go back to teaching in person. I’d say 70+ % of my teacher friends don’t think it’s safe yet and understand.

There was a school in Georgia last week that had 260 staff members test positive.
Stop chizzying Fake News, because you're wrong on either 260 you're referring to out of GA in the last week.

-It wasn't a school but an overnight summer camp.
-It wasn't 260 staff members. Was 92 staff members and 168 children, total 260.
https://deadline.com/2020/08/georgia-ca ... 203001811/

The other 260 out of GA wasn't a school, but GA's largest school district (181k students). 260 staff members DIDN'T test positive. There were approximately 260 who EITHER tested postive OR were exposed.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/260-e ... r-BB17vTID
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:55 am
kalm wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:10 am
Everyone wants to go back to teaching in person. I’d say 70+ % of my teacher friends don’t think it’s safe yet and understand.

There was a school in Georgia last week that had 260 staff members test positive.
Stop chizzying Fake News, because you're wrong on either 260 you're referring to out of GA in the last week.

-It wasn't a school but an overnight summer camp.
-It wasn't 260 staff members. Was 92 staff members and 168 children, total 260.
https://deadline.com/2020/08/georgia-ca ... 203001811/

The other 260 out of GA wasn't a school, but GA's largest school district (181k students). 260 staff members DIDN'T test positive. There were approximately 260 who EITHER tested postive OR were exposed.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/260-e ... r-BB17vTID
And in other news, BDKKK continues to nitpick details to deflect from information that doesn't support the Uumpa Truumpa narrative.

What if the 260 in the district who either tested positive or were exposed happened in the middle of the school year? Fiver, you're a voice of reason and experience, what are the possible contingency plans to handle something like that?
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:06 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:55 am
Stop chizzying Fake News, because you're wrong on either 260 you're referring to out of GA in the last week.

-It wasn't a school but an overnight summer camp.
-It wasn't 260 staff members. Was 92 staff members and 168 children, total 260.
https://deadline.com/2020/08/georgia-ca ... 203001811/

The other 260 out of GA wasn't a school, but GA's largest school district (181k students). 260 staff members DIDN'T test positive. There were approximately 260 who EITHER tested postive OR were exposed.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/260-e ... r-BB17vTID
And in other news, BDKKK continues to nitpick details to deflect from information that doesn't support the Uumpa Truumpa narrative.

What if the 260 in the district who either tested positive or were exposed happened in the middle of the school year? Fiver, you're a voice of reason and experience, what are the possible contingency plans to handle something like that?
When someone makes a claim that isn't even close to being right, that's not nitpicking details.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:09 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:06 am

And in other news, BDKKK continues to nitpick details to deflect from information that doesn't support the Uumpa Truumpa narrative.

What if the 260 in the district who either tested positive or were exposed happened in the middle of the school year? Fiver, you're a voice of reason and experience, what are the possible contingency plans to handle something like that?
When someone makes a claim that isn't even close to being right, that's not nitpicking details.
But you just proved it was close to right. :lol:

And still no reply on the Great Nichole Wallace debate!
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:09 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:06 am
And in other news, BDKKK continues to nitpick details to deflect from information that doesn't support the Uumpa Truumpa narrative.

What if the 260 in the district who either tested positive or were exposed happened in the middle of the school year? Fiver, you're a voice of reason and experience, what are the possible contingency plans to handle something like that?
When someone makes a claim that isn't even close to being right, that's not nitpicking details.
Your focus on the absolute accuracy of the information deflects from the more relevant question of what if this happens in the middle of the school year?

You focus on the trees because the forest might make Trump look bad.

You also do this when the inaccurate details are presented by donks. Why don't you ever call AZ out when he chizzies numbers? :D
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:33 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:09 am
When someone makes a claim that isn't even close to being right, that's not nitpicking details.
Your focus on the absolute accuracy of the information deflects from the more relevant question of what if this happens in the middle of the school year?

You focus on the trees because the forest might make Trump look bad.

You also do this when the inaccurate details are presented by donks. Why don't you ever call AZ out when he chizzies numbers? :D
Hey :tothehand: :tothehand: :tothehand: I copped to it.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:15 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:04 pm

That’s not what he said. he said “I can’t wait to see how people justify the death of children, teens and young adults”. Then blathered on about “little Sally’s death....”

THIS VIRUS DOESN’T KILL that age group. Period. End of story.
Are the kids that have died from it hoaxes?

Y'all have been wrong about essentially everything since the beginning of this thread, not sure why you think this will be different.
You mean all 7 (chizzied) of them?
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:40 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:33 am
Your focus on the absolute accuracy of the information deflects from the more relevant question of what if this happens in the middle of the school year?

You focus on the trees because the forest might make Trump look bad.

You also do this when the inaccurate details are presented by donks. Why don't you ever call AZ out when he chizzies numbers? :D
Hey :tothehand: :tothehand: :tothehand: I copped to it.
You definitely cop to chizzying numbers (and you're a natural at it). I wasn't criticizing you, just BDKKK's relentless focus on liberal accuracy when he gives conservatives a pass. Consistency is important.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:00 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:40 am

Hey :tothehand: :tothehand: :tothehand: I copped to it.
Consistency is important.
:lol:

Oh, people are consistent all right...
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∞∞∞ wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:47 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:44 pm Spokane Public Schools and neighboring Central Valley have both announced at home learning to start the fall. I’m guessing Cheney will as well. Two - three months of lockdown back in April and I’m guessing we’d have school and football.
You mean we shoulda listened to all the experts saying to shut it down for a month or two?

Like all the countries which did the same and successfully contained it?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

The ENTIRE focus of “experts” recommending sequestering was to flatten the curve to prevent overwhelming hospitals. That was more than accomplished. It’s dipsticks like you two (and lib politicians) who keep moving the goalposts as to what you expect to accomplish prior to reopening the country/schools.
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89Hen wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:20 am Spot on fiver. The folks that triumph equality are the ones that are going to doom poorer kids this school year.
No. The people who are dooming poorer kids have been the politicians, corporations, and citizens not taking the pandemic seriously, consequently dragging our country through the mud instead of allowing science to dictate the day.

It's also a hilarious thing to say considering how much the education system was demonized and defunded before the pandemic.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:02 am
89Hen wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:33 am

Fail and fail. :coffee:
As kids and teachers die, I'm just gonna point to this thread for the rest of our lives when pro-lifers argue anything.
Child deaths are minuscule. Less than .5%. I wouldn't be worried about children dying (I know there are some that have) but I would be more concerned about a child catching it and having a heart condition afterwards.

My nephew is 6 and has a congenital heart defect. He's already had open heart surgery to repair 4 holes in his heart. I worry about him going to school and exacerbating his condition.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:00 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:40 am

Hey :tothehand: :tothehand: :tothehand: I copped to it.
You definitely cop to chizzying numbers (and you're a natural at it). I wasn't criticizing you, just BDKKK's relentless focus on liberal accuracy when he gives conservatives a pass. Consistency is important.
You're forgetting one thing...BDK is hyper partisan. He ignores facts that might upset his world view.
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Ibanez wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:17 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:00 pm

You definitely cop to chizzying numbers (and you're a natural at it). I wasn't criticizing you, just BDKKK's relentless focus on liberal accuracy when he gives conservatives a pass. Consistency is important.
You're forgetting one thing...BDK is hyper partisan. He ignores facts that might upset his world view.
And we’re just now starting to see numbers on long term effects which is another reason why the ah fuckit approach isn’t viable yet. Even if herd immunity can be established, what if 20% of those infected suffer months of recovery time before they can work and lost productivity due to ongoing effects over the remainder of their career? Not to mention the medical costs.
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kalm wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:37 am
Ibanez wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:17 am

You're forgetting one thing...BDK is hyper partisan. He ignores facts that might upset his world view.
And we’re just now starting to see numbers on long term effects which is another reason why the ah fuckit approach isn’t viable yet. Even if herd immunity can be established, what if 20% of those infected suffer months of recovery time before they can work and lost productivity due to ongoing effects over the remainder of their career? Not to mention the medical costs.
There's mounting evidence that lockdowns had no effect on final numbers....just delays the inevitable.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:43 am
kalm wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:37 am

And we’re just now starting to see numbers on long term effects which is another reason why the ah fuckit approach isn’t viable yet. Even if herd immunity can be established, what if 20% of those infected suffer months of recovery time before they can work and lost productivity due to ongoing effects over the remainder of their career? Not to mention the medical costs.
There's mounting evidence that lockdowns had no effect on final numbers....just delays the inevitable.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:43 am
kalm wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:37 am

And we’re just now starting to see numbers on long term effects which is another reason why the ah fuckit approach isn’t viable yet. Even if herd immunity can be established, what if 20% of those infected suffer months of recovery time before they can work and lost productivity due to ongoing effects over the remainder of their career? Not to mention the medical costs.
There's mounting evidence that lockdowns had no effect on final numbers....just delays the inevitable.
Reading that as well. COVID will eventually find everyone that is susceptible.
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kalm wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:06 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:43 am

There's mounting evidence that lockdowns had no effect on final numbers....just delays the inevitable.
Link?
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/ ... owns-work/

Here's a terrific article that analyzes all sides of the argument, from "Lockdowns worked" to "Lockdowns were a Waste"....

Pick your poison.

There's lies, there's damned lies, and then there's statistics. :D :D
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AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:07 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:06 am

Link?
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/ ... owns-work/

Here's a terrific article that analyzes all sides of the argument, from "Lockdowns worked" to "Lockdowns were a Waste"....

Pick your poison.

There's lies, there's damned lies, and then there's statistics. :D :D
Klam still won't admit the Huckster of hockey stick global warming, has not released his data or methodology, because he doesn't like a source.

Links are wasted on him if he doesn't like the source.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:07 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:06 am

Link?
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/ ... owns-work/

Here's a terrific article that analyzes all sides of the argument, from "Lockdowns worked" to "Lockdowns were a Waste"....

Pick your poison.

There's lies, there's damned lies, and then there's statistics. :D :D
I skimmed the whole thing. Some interesting points at first blush but at least the last two paragraphs are incorrect.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:20 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:07 pm

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/ ... owns-work/

Here's a terrific article that analyzes all sides of the argument, from "Lockdowns worked" to "Lockdowns were a Waste"....

Pick your poison.

There's lies, there's damned lies, and then there's statistics. :D :D
Klam still won't admit the Huckster of hockey stick global warming, has not released his data or methodology, because he doesn't like a source.

Links are wasted on him if he doesn't like the source.
Mann has been vindicated by most of the scientific community, just not the truthers yet.
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kalm wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:44 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:20 pm

Klam still won't admit the Huckster of hockey stick global warming, has not released his data or methodology, because he doesn't like a source.

Links are wasted on him if he doesn't like the source.
Mann has been vindicated by most of the scientific community, just not the truthers yet.
That's not how the process works. The word of people you interact with does not outweigh the needs to see sources and methods in regards to evaluation.

People who obviously have made a decision without seeing the facts. Not one of those fuckers came to his defense during the trial, so they don't know shit either.

Mann is a snake oil salesmen and will remain as such until he divulges all information on his experiment, as the scientific method asks.
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Ibanez wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:17 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:00 pm

You definitely cop to chizzying numbers (and you're a natural at it). I wasn't criticizing you, just BDKKK's relentless focus on liberal accuracy when he gives conservatives a pass. Consistency is important.
You're forgetting one thing...BDK is hyper partisan. He ignores facts that might upset his world view.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:47 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:44 pm

Mann has been vindicated by most of the scientific community, just not the truthers yet.
That's not how the process works. The word of people you interact with does not outweigh the needs to see sources and methods in regards to evaluation.

People who obviously have made a decision without seeing the facts. Not one of those fuckers came to his defense during the trial, so they don't know shit either.

Mann is a snake oil salesmen and will remain as such until he divulges all information on his experiment, as the scientific method asks.
Mann won. It’s really quite old news.
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