Government Shutdown 2011

[93henfan]

As evidenced by this website, non-federal workers get paid pretty well to not work at work too.

The question isn't whether they are working or not. The question is are they doing any work that needs to be done.

OK. Now you're off in philosophy land. I can't help you with that.

[AZGrizFan]

Watching houndawg, TTBF and dback get fucking OWNED in this thread by Baldy, Blueballs, Col Hogan and Ivytalk has been highly entertaining.

[dbackjon]

Watching houndawg, TTBF and dback get fucking OWNED in this thread by Baldy, Blueballs, Col Hogan and Ivytalk has been highly entertaining.

Wake up - you are still dreaming

[kalm]

I think Halliburton, Bechtel, Exxon, and Blackwater should pick up the NASCAR advertising tab. It's the least they can do.

[HI54UNI]

NEEDS to be cut?

That doesn't rise to the level of a need, ASU. You might think it OUGHT to be cut, but that's decidedly not the same thing as a need.

In fact, given the current state of readiness (a two-front war and multiple little fires to put out on several continents), cutting defense IMO is the LAST thing we should be doing. We already have burned out people getting sent back for more before they're ready. It's little wonder that people are coming back and screwing up as soon as they get home. The military should have MORE people and tools, not less.

bull. shit.

every facet of government, every expense ought to come under the same damn microscope. "is it working?" if no, can it be fixed? if no, give it the axe... in tough times the belt tightening should not have sacred cows...

the millions we waste on sponsoring NASCAR teams and $500,000 flyovers of sporting events would be a nice start to the cuts.

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Additional Program Eliminations/Spending Reforms

Corporation for Public Broadcasting Subsidy. $445 million annual savings.
stupid. stupid. stupid. Public Broadcasting is a valuable public service

Save America's Treasures Program. $25 million annual savings.
the National Park Service is already chronically and dangerously underfunded...

International Fund for Ireland. $17 million annual savings.
probably a reasonable cut - it's a good program, but has a lot of private support (it was much more important during The Troubles)

Legal Services Corporation. $420 million annual savings.
ensuring that the poor will have even worse legal protection than they already have... this is just a dickish cut

National Endowment for the Arts. $167.5 million annual savings.
despite a few controversies, this has been a very successful program

National Endowment for the Humanities. $167.5 million annual savings.
without it - we wouldn't have Ken Burns, the King Tut exhibit, or fifteen pulitzer prize winning books

Hope VI Program. $250 million annual savings.
another middle finger to the poorest Americans (Hope VI is all about rehabbing public housing... so this also will cut construction jobs)

Amtrak Subsidies. $1.565 billion annual savings.
decimate the rail system instead of improving - very shortsighted

Eliminate duplicative education programs. H.R. 2274 (in last Congress), authored by Rep. McKeon, eliminates 68 at a savings of $1.3 billion annually.
would have to see the specifics - but eliminating redundancy is a good thing on principle

U.S. Trade Development Agency. $55 million annual savings.
doesn't seem smart to gut an agency whose job it is to help us develop foreign markets for our products and improve relations with the developing world

Woodrow Wilson Center Subsidy. $20 million annual savings.
part of the Smithsonian - largely involved in studying foreign relations - not a terribly egregious cut

Cut in half funding for congressional printing and binding. $47 million annual savings.
very smart cut - reducing printing and binding and going digital seems like a no-brainer savings idea

John C. Stennis Center Subsidy. $430,000 annual savings.
bummer for the people of the Gulf Coast - but it's a small cut in a big budget

Community Development Fund. $4.5 billion annual savings.
a devastating cut to a grant-writing agency that encourages innovation and new ideas in revitalizing blighted and impoverished areas... this fund needs some reform and some changes - not to be slashed in to oblivion

Heritage Area Grants and Statutory Aid. $24 million annual savings.
destroying our history and understanding of it...

Cut Federal Travel Budget in Half. $7.5 billion annual savings.
probably a good cut - video conferencing can do much of this - eliminating Congressional and agency junkets can also help

Trim Federal Vehicle Budget by 20%. $600 million annual savings.
the specifics of this cut are important - this could be a cut that hurts in the long run if not handled properly

Essential Air Service. $150 million annual savings.
with apologies to small town America - this is a subsidy that needs to die - value carriers can make some of these work in the private sector - otherwise, hop in the car or go Grayhound to a bigger airport (or use Amtrak if they don't destroy that too)

Technology Innovation Program. $70 million annual savings.
short-sighted cut...

Manufacturing Extension Partnership (MEP) Program. $125 million annual savings.
a program that coordinates resources to small and medium sized manufacturers... talk about a short-sighted cut... these guys critical to keeping the economy moving

Department of Energy Grants to States for Weatherization. $530 million annual savings.
short-sighted... we can save BILLIONS in energy costs with these grants - in addition, it stimulates private sector employment in making homes and businesses more energy efficient...

Beach Replenishment. $95 million annual savings.
this isn't a cut so much as it is a punt to the states... like they have the money to do it...

New Starts Transit. $2 billion annual savings.
another short-sighted cut to transit...

Exchange Programs for Alaska, Natives Native Hawaiians, and Their Historical Trading Partners in Massachusetts. $9 million annual savings.
wow... i didn't know this existed... good cut.

Intercity and High Speed Rail Grants. $2.5 billion annual savings.
this country was built for high speed rail - stupid and short-sighted cuts

Title X Family Planning. $318 million annual savings.
ensuring more unplanned pregnancies and abortions... short-sighted, since these kids, frequently born to the poorest among us, cost billions in social services (or prisons - pick your poison)

Appalachian Regional Commission. $76 million annual savings.
this program has worked to reduce poverty in the region dramatically - it's not an egregious cut, however

Economic Development Administration. $293 million annual savings.
another middle finger to the poor - this agency creates jobs... in places that sorely need it

Programs under the National and Community Services Act. $1.15 billion annual savings.
would have to see the specifics - but this is likely a slashing of AmeriCorps

Applied Research at Department of Energy. $1.27 billion annual savings.
ENERGY RESEARCH?!? are you fucking kidding me? not just research - but APPLIED research... finding practical solutions to one of our BIGGEST problems... wafj

FreedomCAR and Fuel Partnership. $200 million annual savings.
here again - a program to end our dependence on oil - a smart investment of public dollars - the program works with big fleets like FedEx to beta test this shit...

Energy Star Program. $52 million annual savings.
appliances are the biggest energy hogs in the home - this program has been very successful in reducing energy waste

Economic Assistance to Egypt. $250 million annually.
cutting aid to an important ally in an important corner of the world... dangerously short-sighted

U.S. Agency for International Development. $1.39 billion annual savings.
wow - this smacks of 1920's style isolationism

General Assistance to District of Columbia. $210 million annual savings.
a middle finger by Republicans to Democrats

Subsidy for Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority. $150 million annual savings.
a middle finger by Republicans to Democrats

Presidential Campaign Fund. $775 million savings over ten years.
time for this to go away... good cut

No funding for federal office space acquisition. $864 million annual savings.
this certainly needs reform - could be very useful.

End prohibitions on competitive sourcing of government services.
a polite way of saying "fuck you" to prevailing wage laws

Repeal the Davis-Bacon Act. More than $1 billion annually.
a polite way of saying "fuck you" to prevailing wage laws

IRS Direct Deposit: Require the IRS to deposit fees for some services it offers (such as processing payment plans for taxpayers) to the Treasury, instead of allowing it to remain as part of its budget. $1.8 billion savings over ten years.
I can't see why this isn't a good idea...

Require collection of unpaid taxes by federal employees. $1 billion total savings.


Prohibit taxpayer funded union activities by federal employees. $1.2 billion savings over ten years.
just wow...

Sell excess federal properties the government does not make use of. $15 billion total savings.
depends on what we're selling and what it's used for...

Eliminate death gratuity for Members of Congress.


Eliminate Mohair Subsidies. $1 million annual savings.


Eliminate taxpayer subsidies to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. $12.5 million annual savings.
classic GOPers...

Eliminate Market Access Program. $200 million annual savings.
this program creates markets for American agriculture products and improves relations in developing countries...

USDA Sugar Program. $14 million annual savings.


Subsidy to Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). $93 million annual savings.
a program likely past it's useful life

Eliminate the National Organic Certification Cost-Share Program. $56.2 million annual savings.
i don't love organics - but this seems like a short-sighted cut

Eliminate fund for Obamacare administrative costs. $900 million savings.


Ready to Learn TV Program. $27 million savings.
making sure kids programming comes exclusively from Disney and Nickelodeon - and is devoid of any educational value whatsoever... sad.

I agree with Dane - the military budget dwarfs this... it won't hurt our national defense one bit to make the Pentagon behave more efficiently - we're not talking about cutting troop pay or levels... but there is plenty of room for cutting over there

So are you ready to put that microscope on these things that you said shouldn't be cut?

A lot of these cost a lot more than the money spent on NASCAR sponsorships.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

So are you ready to put that microscope on these things that you said shouldn't be cut?

A lot of these cost a lot more than the money spent on NASCAR sponsorships.

yep.

again, like i've said - you go through the budget with a fine toothed comb... find what is working and what isn't and either fix what isn't working, combine redundant programs that ARE working and cut the shit that hasn't delivered.

reasonable people can disagree about the finer points of what is "working" but if you read my answers in that long post carefully - there is plenty in there I'd support cutting.

[Col Hogan]

Cutting NASCAR is pure savings...I don't know how much they spend on that, but its not tens of millions of dollars...

And since the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds are still combat-coded aircraft, if you shut down both teams, the planes and people just go back into front-line squadrons and continue to fly...so you'll save a few dollars from reduced flying hours, but all in all, you lose tons of recruiting potential and gain no where near the "tens of millions" in savings...

Dawgs overall Grade on this weak attempt - C-... He tried, but didn't do his homework before he engaged his mouth...

How much do you think it costs to operate the angels and t-birds and nascar, colonel?

Put their shamming asses to work in those front-line units, maybe one of them can drop a bomb on bin Laden.

The so-called recruiting potential, if any, is wasted money. No recruiting is necessary to find people to fly jets.


Feeble counter, colonel, and you an officer.....

Again, your reading comprehension is exposed...you might want to work on that...

I clearly said I have no idea what NASCAR costs...

And I also said you opened your mouth without doing homework...The recruiting potential of the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds lies not in getting people to fly jets...but to enlist...

When those teams come to town (same with a NASCAR race) the local recruiters for those services have a big push because of personal appearances by pilots, drivers and crews...they arrange for pilots of the Thunderbirds or Blue Angels (officers) to swear in new recruits... they get lots of free advertising because the news media covers those events...

Your hatred of the military you once served in is just blinding you, 'dawg...you fail to see how for every dollar spent on these things, the military gets back close to a dollar in free advertising...increased recruiting...and other benefits...

[houndawg]

How much do you think it costs to operate the angels and t-birds and nascar, colonel?

Put their shamming asses to work in those front-line units, maybe one of them can drop a bomb on bin Laden.

The so-called recruiting potential, if any, is wasted money. No recruiting is necessary to find people to fly jets.


Feeble counter, colonel, and you an officer.....

Again, your reading comprehension is exposed...you might want to work on that...

I clearly said I have no idea what NASCAR costs...

And I also said you opened your mouth without doing homework...The recruiting potential of the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds lies not in getting people to fly jets...but to enlist...

When those teams come to town (same with a NASCAR race) the local recruiters for those services have a big push because of personal appearances by pilots, drivers and crews...they arrange for pilots of the Thunderbirds or Blue Angels (officers) to swear in new recruits... they get lots of free advertising because the news media covers those events...

Your hatred of the military you once served in is just blinding you, 'dawg...you fail to see how for every dollar spent on these things, the military gets back close to a dollar in free advertising...increased recruiting...and other benefits...

Translation: Damn, Houndawg owned myass again. I better accuse him of not supporting the troops.
Typical honk blather.



9% unemployment means we don't need to advertise to get plenty of candidates.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Additional Program Eliminations/Spending Reforms

Corporation for Public Broadcasting Subsidy. $445 million annual savings.
stupid. stupid. stupid. Public Broadcasting is a valuable public service

Save America's Treasures Program. $25 million annual savings.
the National Park Service is already chronically and dangerously underfunded...

International Fund for Ireland. $17 million annual savings.
probably a reasonable cut - it's a good program, but has a lot of private support (it was much more important during The Troubles)

Legal Services Corporation. $420 million annual savings.
ensuring that the poor will have even worse legal protection than they already have... this is just a dickish cut

National Endowment for the Arts. $167.5 million annual savings.
despite a few controversies, this has been a very successful program

National Endowment for the Humanities. $167.5 million annual savings.
without it - we wouldn't have Ken Burns, the King Tut exhibit, or fifteen pulitzer prize winning books

Hope VI Program. $250 million annual savings.
another middle finger to the poorest Americans (Hope VI is all about rehabbing public housing... so this also will cut construction jobs)

Amtrak Subsidies. $1.565 billion annual savings.
decimate the rail system instead of improving - very shortsighted

Eliminate duplicative education programs. H.R. 2274 (in last Congress), authored by Rep. McKeon, eliminates 68 at a savings of $1.3 billion annually.
would have to see the specifics - but eliminating redundancy is a good thing on principle

U.S. Trade Development Agency. $55 million annual savings.
doesn't seem smart to gut an agency whose job it is to help us develop foreign markets for our products and improve relations with the developing world

Woodrow Wilson Center Subsidy. $20 million annual savings.
part of the Smithsonian - largely involved in studying foreign relations - not a terribly egregious cut

Cut in half funding for congressional printing and binding. $47 million annual savings.
very smart cut - reducing printing and binding and going digital seems like a no-brainer savings idea

John C. Stennis Center Subsidy. $430,000 annual savings.
bummer for the people of the Gulf Coast - but it's a small cut in a big budget

Community Development Fund. $4.5 billion annual savings.
a devastating cut to a grant-writing agency that encourages innovation and new ideas in revitalizing blighted and impoverished areas... this fund needs some reform and some changes - not to be slashed in to oblivion

Heritage Area Grants and Statutory Aid. $24 million annual savings.
destroying our history and understanding of it...

Cut Federal Travel Budget in Half. $7.5 billion annual savings.
probably a good cut - video conferencing can do much of this - eliminating Congressional and agency junkets can also help

Trim Federal Vehicle Budget by 20%. $600 million annual savings.
the specifics of this cut are important - this could be a cut that hurts in the long run if not handled properly

Essential Air Service. $150 million annual savings.
with apologies to small town America - this is a subsidy that needs to die - value carriers can make some of these work in the private sector - otherwise, hop in the car or go Grayhound to a bigger airport (or use Amtrak if they don't destroy that too)

Technology Innovation Program. $70 million annual savings.
short-sighted cut...

Manufacturing Extension Partnership (MEP) Program. $125 million annual savings.
a program that coordinates resources to small and medium sized manufacturers... talk about a short-sighted cut... these guys critical to keeping the economy moving

Department of Energy Grants to States for Weatherization. $530 million annual savings.
short-sighted... we can save BILLIONS in energy costs with these grants - in addition, it stimulates private sector employment in making homes and businesses more energy efficient...

Beach Replenishment. $95 million annual savings.
this isn't a cut so much as it is a punt to the states... like they have the money to do it...

New Starts Transit. $2 billion annual savings.
another short-sighted cut to transit...

Exchange Programs for Alaska, Natives Native Hawaiians, and Their Historical Trading Partners in Massachusetts. $9 million annual savings.
wow... i didn't know this existed... good cut.

Intercity and High Speed Rail Grants. $2.5 billion annual savings.
this country was built for high speed rail - stupid and short-sighted cuts

Title X Family Planning. $318 million annual savings.
ensuring more unplanned pregnancies and abortions... short-sighted, since these kids, frequently born to the poorest among us, cost billions in social services (or prisons - pick your poison)

Appalachian Regional Commission. $76 million annual savings.
this program has worked to reduce poverty in the region dramatically - it's not an egregious cut, however

Economic Development Administration. $293 million annual savings.
another middle finger to the poor - this agency creates jobs... in places that sorely need it

Programs under the National and Community Services Act. $1.15 billion annual savings.
would have to see the specifics - but this is likely a slashing of AmeriCorps

Applied Research at Department of Energy. $1.27 billion annual savings.
ENERGY RESEARCH?!? are you fucking kidding me? not just research - but APPLIED research... finding practical solutions to one of our BIGGEST problems... wafj

FreedomCAR and Fuel Partnership. $200 million annual savings.
here again - a program to end our dependence on oil - a smart investment of public dollars - the program works with big fleets like FedEx to beta test this shit...

Energy Star Program. $52 million annual savings.
appliances are the biggest energy hogs in the home - this program has been very successful in reducing energy waste

Economic Assistance to Egypt. $250 million annually.
cutting aid to an important ally in an important corner of the world... dangerously short-sighted

U.S. Agency for International Development. $1.39 billion annual savings.
wow - this smacks of 1920's style isolationism

General Assistance to District of Columbia. $210 million annual savings.
a middle finger by Republicans to Democrats

Subsidy for Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority. $150 million annual savings.
a middle finger by Republicans to Democrats

Presidential Campaign Fund. $775 million savings over ten years.
time for this to go away... good cut

No funding for federal office space acquisition. $864 million annual savings.
this certainly needs reform - could be very useful.

End prohibitions on competitive sourcing of government services.
a polite way of saying "fuck you" to prevailing wage laws

Repeal the Davis-Bacon Act. More than $1 billion annually.
a polite way of saying "fuck you" to prevailing wage laws

IRS Direct Deposit: Require the IRS to deposit fees for some services it offers (such as processing payment plans for taxpayers) to the Treasury, instead of allowing it to remain as part of its budget. $1.8 billion savings over ten years.
I can't see why this isn't a good idea...

Require collection of unpaid taxes by federal employees. $1 billion total savings.


Prohibit taxpayer funded union activities by federal employees. $1.2 billion savings over ten years.
just wow...

Sell excess federal properties the government does not make use of. $15 billion total savings.
depends on what we're selling and what it's used for...

Eliminate death gratuity for Members of Congress.


Eliminate Mohair Subsidies. $1 million annual savings.


Eliminate taxpayer subsidies to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. $12.5 million annual savings.
classic GOPers...

Eliminate Market Access Program. $200 million annual savings.
this program creates markets for American agriculture products and improves relations in developing countries...

USDA Sugar Program. $14 million annual savings.


Subsidy to Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). $93 million annual savings.
a program likely past it's useful life

Eliminate the National Organic Certification Cost-Share Program. $56.2 million annual savings.
i don't love organics - but this seems like a short-sighted cut

Eliminate fund for Obamacare administrative costs. $900 million savings.


Ready to Learn TV Program. $27 million savings.
making sure kids programming comes exclusively from Disney and Nickelodeon - and is devoid of any educational value whatsoever... sad.

I agree with Dane - the military budget dwarfs this... it won't hurt our national defense one bit to make the Pentagon behave more efficiently - we're not talking about cutting troop pay or levels... but there is plenty of room for cutting over there

Everything on this list is just like an alcoholic drink.

Everyone likes to drink alcohol from time to time its fun and people enjoy it, BUT if you never drink alcohol again it wont kill you.

Just like these programs if they were all gone all we would do is save OUR money and it would help balance the budget that is totally out of hand.

Most Americans dont care about being reelected, thats why they are concerned about the money being spent/wasted and the politicians are not.

[BDKJMU]

If the government shuts down for a week should govt employees get paid if they don't work? Iowa forced their workers into unpaid furloughs last year to help balance the budget. I know it isn't the employees' fault but should they get paid for not working?

It's certainly not the case for the vast majority, but a certain percentage of us federal employees will still be working anyway. Even though I'm coded non-essential, I'd be working after a shutdown to write stop-work orders on all of my active contracts. That would take several days. If we didn't get retroactive pay I would file for overtime for the hours worked. I'm not sure if it would be granted, but I'd probably be able to get later time off as credit. My agency is pretty good to its folks that way.

A majority:

"Psst. No shutdown during a 'government shutdown'

WASHINGTON – Social Security checks would still go out. Troops would remain at their posts. Furloughed federal workers probably would get paid, though not until later. And virtually every essential government agency, like the FBI, the Border Patrol and the Coast Guard, would remain open.
That's the little-known truth about a government shutdown. The government doesn't shut down........

.......Fewer than half of the 2.1 million federal workers subject to a shutdown would be forced off the job if the Obama administration followed the path taken by presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton. And that's not counting 600,000 Postal Service employees or 1.6 million uniformed military personnel exempt from a shutdown.
So we're talking fewer than one in four federal workers staying at home. Many federal workers get paid on March 4, so it would take a two-week shutdown for them to see a delay in their paychecks..........

...........The air traffic control system, food inspection, Medicare, veterans' health care and many other essential government programs would run as usual. The Social Security Administration would not only send out benefits but would continue to take applications. The Postal Service, which is self-funded, would keep delivering the mail. Federal courts would remain open.....

........All sides say they don't want a so-called shutdown like the two separate partial government closings in 1995-1996, when President Clinton and a then-new GOP majority in Congress were at loggerheads over the budget. Republicans took most of the political blame, and the episodes gave Clinton critical momentum on his way to re-election.
There haven't been any shutdowns since then. The politics stink.
But from a practical perspective, shutdowns usually aren't that big a deal. They happened every year when Jimmy Carter was president, averaging 11 days each. During President Reagan's two terms, there were six shutdowns, typically of just one or two days apiece. Deals got cut. Everybody moved on......"

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[BDKJMU]

I think Halliburton, Bechtel, Exxon, and Blackwater should pick up the NASCAR advertising tab. It's the least they can do.

Blackwater hasn't existed for a couple of years. Its now known as Xe Services, a subsidiary of the investment group USTC Holdings. The original 97' founder of Blackwater, Erik Prince, is no longer with the new company.

[89Hen]

Translation: Damn, Houndawg owned myass again.

What color is the sky in your world?

[dbackjon]

I think Halliburton, Bechtel, Exxon, and Blackwater should pick up the NASCAR advertising tab. It's the least they can do.

Blackwater hasn't existed for a couple of years. Its now known as Xe Services, a subsidiary of the investment group USTC Holdings. The original 97' founder of Blackwater, Erik Prince, is no longer with the new company.

But still up to the same dirty tricks.

Prince should be in jail

[kalm]

I think Halliburton, Bechtel, Exxon, and Blackwater should pick up the NASCAR advertising tab. It's the least they can do.

Blackwater hasn't existed for a couple of years. Its now known as Xe Services, a subsidiary of the investment group USTC Holdings. The original 97' founder of Blackwater, Erik Prince, is no longer with the new company.

I knew Blackwater had changed names, but I wasn't aware the douche bag christian crusader Prince had left. My point, is that socialists like the aforementioned who profit from war should at least take us out to dinner once in a awhile.

[Ivytalk]

If there is a government shutdown, and if (as expected) the MSM blame the Republicans for it, will Newt still throw his hat in the ring?

[93henfan]

Reports today are saying that the two sides aren't far apart. House votes tomorrow.

[Col Hogan]

Reports today are saying that the two sides aren't far apart. House votes tomorrow.

But isn't that for just a two week extension of the CRA???

[93henfan]

Reports today are saying that the two sides aren't far apart. House votes tomorrow.

But isn't that for just a two week extension of the CRA???

Yeah, which would really crush the flow of everything at my office, even worse than what's already been done. We incrementally fund roughly 500 projects and have to obligate all remaining funds before March 4th per the CRA authority. Now if they only extend for two weeks, our finance office will have to generate as many funding documents as they can and we'll again have to obligate everything within the next two weeks. It's like a fiscal year-end flurry for every one of these CR deadlines. A real bitch.

[houndawg]

If there is a government shutdown, and if (as expected) the MSM blame the Republicans for it, will Newt still throw his hat in the ring?

He's been testing the waters, but isn't liking how the difference between his family values rap and his appalling treatment of his first wife keeps getting brought up at his public appearances. He got downright peevish with the lady that asked him about it at his last speech.

[BDKJMU]

"Crisis" averted for 2 weeks.

Senate Dems agree to GOP bill to cut spending
House nears passage of GOP spending bill to avert gov't shutdown; Senate Dems will go along

"WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Republican-controlled House is on course to pass legislation cutting federal spending by $4 billion and averting a government shutdown for two weeks. And Senate Democrats say they will go along..........."
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Senate-De ... l?x=0&.v=6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[93henfan]

"Crisis" averted for 2 weeks.

That was our next to worst case scenario. Now we have projects supporting warfighters in the field real-time that will be in danger of not getting funding in time in the next two weeks to ensure continuity of operations. This is bad news for a lot of folks.

[HI54UNI]

"Crisis" averted for 2 weeks.

Senate Dems agree to GOP bill to cut spending
House nears passage of GOP spending bill to avert gov't shutdown; Senate Dems will go along

"WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Republican-controlled House is on course to pass legislation cutting federal spending by $4 billion and averting a government shutdown for two weeks. And Senate Democrats say they will go along..........."
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Senate-De ... l?x=0&.v=6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wow!! $4 billion!

[93henfan]

"Crisis" averted for 2 weeks.

Senate Dems agree to GOP bill to cut spending
House nears passage of GOP spending bill to avert gov't shutdown; Senate Dems will go along

"WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Republican-controlled House is on course to pass legislation cutting federal spending by $4 billion and averting a government shutdown for two weeks. And Senate Democrats say they will go along..........."
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Senate-De ... l?x=0&.v=6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wow!! $4 billion!

That projects to the $100 billion/yr goal that had been mentioned.