NFL Power Ranking (week-by-week)

[tribe_pride]

Broncos suck.

In the first 27:34 of the game, they have had 2 offensive possessions - 10 plays for 16 yards. They have had 3 defensive possessions - 15 plays, 80 yards for a TD, 13 plays, 90 yards for a TD, 10 plays 35 yards for a missed 45 yard FG. 21:00 to 6:34 in time of possession.

All that said, if they can somehow get something together and get a TD here, they will be only down 7 with the ball to start the 2nd half.

[Chizzang]

The reason Rodgers was always so effective throwing those bombs on the run is because they were to one of the best security blankets in the league, Nelson. He isn't there for that anymore. Scrambling lanes are still there but not as big. Teams aren't afraid of any of those WR in one on one situations down field of the play breaks down.

The again, I'm not the professional. Just a guy who has followed the NFC North extremely close his entire life.

Yup...
Nobody seems to be able to get open in their offense
and their running game isn't quite as robust when they can't pass

The Packers are not going anywhere in the playoffs this season

[Chizzang]

Final Power Ranking: NFL Season 2015

1) Denver Bronco's
2) New England Patriots
3) Carolina Panthers
4) Seattle Seahawks
5) Arizona Cardinals
6) Green Bay Packers
7) Pittsburgh Steelers
8) Minnesota Vikings
9) Kansas City Chiefs
10) Cincinnati Bengals
11) Washington Redskins
12) Houston Texans

[Seahawks08]

I would put the Jets at 12 and remove Houston. Otherwise, looks good.

[clenz]

2 wild card teams over the champions from the same division?

[Gil Dobie]

2 wild card teams over the champions from the same division?

Green Bay split with Minnesota head-to-head, some key players returned for the Arizona game and the Pack nearly won a 2nd playoff game. Vikings lost only playoff game at home. At least that's how I see it for that situation.

[dbackjon]

Arizona is ahead of Seattle.

Division Champ.

[clenz]

2 wild card teams over the champions from the same division?

Green Bay split with Minnesota head-to-head, some key players returned for the Arizona game and the Pack nearly won a 2nd playoff game. Vikings lost only playoff game at home. At least that's how I see it for that situation.

So, because Minnesota WON THE DIVISION and had to play Seattle instead of fucking Washington they don't belong a head of GB?

[Mvemjsunpx]

Arizona is ahead of Seattle.

Division Champ.

Agree.

Also, MIN & KC should be ahead of Pittsburgh & GB (and PIT should be ahead of GB).

The Redskins & Texans shouldn't be in the top-12, unless this is meant to be a playoff-teams-only ranking.

[Gil Dobie]

Green Bay split with Minnesota head-to-head, some key players returned for the Arizona game and the Pack nearly won a 2nd playoff game. Vikings lost only playoff game at home. At least that's how I see it for that situation.

So, because Minnesota WON THE DIVISION and had to play Seattle instead of **** Washington they don't belong a head of GB?

Could add that Green Bay beat Seattle and Minnesota lost to them twice.

[Gil Dobie]

Arizona is ahead of Seattle.

Division Champ.

Agree.

Also, MIN & KC should be ahead of Pittsburgh & GB (and PIT should be ahead of GB).

The Redskins & Texans shouldn't be in the top-12, unless this is meant to be a playoff-teams-only ranking.

I agree with KC, but a healthier Green Bay finished the season than played Arizona and Minnesota a few weeks prior. They played Arizona tough and gave up less sacks a few weeks later.

[clenz]

So, because Minnesota WON THE DIVISION and had to play Seattle instead of **** Washington they don't belong a head of GB?

Could add that Green Bay beat Seattle and Minnesota lost to them twice.

could add a lot of things. Green Bay lost to Arizona by and average of 18 per game. Minnesota 3 and had the ball in plus territory with less than 30 seconds left when a strip sack happened on the road 4 days after playing Seattle

Minnesota had the exact same situation vs Denver when it came to points and situation. Green Bay lost by 19

Minnesota beat Chicago and Detroit twice. Green Bay was 1-1 vs each.


Long story short, Green Bay had a home game, in prime time, the final week of the season against Minnesota to win the division and shit the bed

[Gil Dobie]

Could add that Green Bay beat Seattle and Minnesota lost to them twice.

could add a lot of things. Green Bay lost to Arizona by and average of 18 per game. Minnesota 3 and had the ball in plus territory with less than 30 seconds left when a strip sack happened on the road 4 days after playing Seattle

Minnesota had the exact same situation vs Denver when it came to points and situation. Green Bay lost by 19

Minnesota beat Chicago and Detroit twice. Green Bay was 1-1 vs each.


Long story short, Green Bay had a home game, in prime time, the final week of the season against Minnesota to win the division and **** the bed

It makes a difference on who is playing when the games are played. Several key players returned for the playoffs for Green Bay. The performance of the team showed to some degree against the Washington Fighting Hawks and even more so against Arizona. Green Bay looked better in the playoffs then they did against Minnesota and Arizona the first time.

[Chizzang]

Final Power Ranking: NFL Season 2015

1) Denver Bronco's
2) New England Patriots
3) Carolina Panthers
4) Seattle Seahawks
5) Arizona Cardinals
6) Green Bay Packers
7) Pittsburgh Steelers
8) Minnesota Vikings
9) Kansas City Chiefs
10) Cincinnati Bengals
11) Washington Redskins
12) Houston Texans

The JETs were probably the 10th best team in the NFL
Houston could't consistently beat anybody on this list including the JETs

Arizona comes in below Seattle because their last month of play was very shaky
They got BLOWN OUT by Seattle / Then eeked by their play-off win (at home)
and then got crushed by Carolina

If Minnesota makes that field goal they probably replace Seattle on this list (Swap positions)

Man for Man / Talent by Position the Bengals are probably 5th but they just can't win big games

[clenz]

could add a lot of things. Green Bay lost to Arizona by and average of 18 per game. Minnesota 3 and had the ball in plus territory with less than 30 seconds left when a strip sack happened on the road 4 days after playing Seattle

Minnesota had the exact same situation vs Denver when it came to points and situation. Green Bay lost by 19

Minnesota beat Chicago and Detroit twice. Green Bay was 1-1 vs each.


Long story short, Green Bay had a home game, in prime time, the final week of the season against Minnesota to win the division and **** the bed

It makes a difference on who is playing when the games are played. Several key players returned for the playoffs for Green Bay. The performance of the team showed to some degree against the Washington Fighting Hawks and even more so against Arizona. Green Bay looked better in the playoffs then they did against Minnesota and Arizona the first time.

Who played against Washington that didn't against the Vikings?

The Vikings were starting a rookie RT all season, having to replace a pro bowl RT, and were without an all pro center all season. Played a good chunk of the season without one of the 2 best safeties in the league in that close lose to Arizona. 2 of 3 line backers were a rookie and 2nd year player and played with/through broken arms and bruised ribs, and played without 2 of top 3 DTs (Linval Joseph missed 4 games, including the Seattle and Airzona games and Sharrif Floyd missed 3 games) for a good chunk of the year.

The fact is Minnesota would have embarrassed Washington as well.
Minnesota's performance, in that weather, against Seattle was twice as impressive as Green Bay over Washington.
Minnesota already showed they had the guns to match up against an Arizona team playing well. Sure as hell would have had a chance in that playoff game
Both would have been crushed by Carolina.

You're right, it does make a different who plays.

[Gil Dobie]

Shields and Baktiari were the main guys out, but back for the Arizona game.

[Chizzang]

It feels like Minnesota has more "Up-Side" moving forward into 2016 than Green Bay
As strong as the system is in Green Bay it showed some cracks this season

Everybody is missing Linemen / everybody has receivers and running backs out...
That's not really a strong argument come week 12 in the season
Rolling out of spring training being decimated with injury - okay that's worth making note

I'm super curious about 2016 and GB vs. Minn
It will be a very exciting division

[Gil Dobie]

It feels like Minnesota has more "Up-Side" moving forward into 2016 than Green Bay
As strong as the system is in Green Bay it showed some cracks this season

Everybody is missing Linemen / everybody has receivers and running backs out...
That's not really a strong argument come week 12 in the season
Rolling out of spring training being decimated with injury - okay that's worth making note

I'm super curious about 2016 and GB vs. Minn
It will be a very exciting division

Pretty much agree with everything you are saying. I don't think there is much difference between the 2 teams at this point. My point with Bakhtiari out, was Arizona had 8 sacks of Rodgers without him and a few weeks later 1 sack with him on the field. If Rodgers has time, Green Bay is a better team.

[clenz]

It feels like Minnesota has more "Up-Side" moving forward into 2016 than Green Bay
As strong as the system is in Green Bay it showed some cracks this season

Everybody is missing Linemen / everybody has receivers and running backs out...
That's not really a strong argument come week 12 in the season
Rolling out of spring training being decimated with injury - okay that's worth making note

I'm super curious about 2016 and GB vs. Minn
It will be a very exciting division

Pretty much agree with everything you are saying. I don't think there is much difference between the 2 teams at this point. My point with Bakhtiari out, was Arizona had 8 sacks of Rodgers without him and a few weeks later 1 sack with him on the field. If Rodgers has time, Green Bay is a better team.

a QB is better with time?

Unbelievable

[Gil Dobie]

Pretty much agree with everything you are saying. I don't think there is much difference between the 2 teams at this point. My point with Bakhtiari out, was Arizona had 8 sacks of Rodgers without him and a few weeks later 1 sack with him on the field. If Rodgers has time, Green Bay is a better team.

a QB is better with time?

Unbelievable

Glad we can agree on something.