Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

[BDKJMU]

Took to long to put the clamps down- its should have started several months earlier. Better late than never. No stone should be left unturned to ferret out leakers, with firings and/or prosecutions to those caught..
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/0 ... lls-240274

[CID1990]

Took to long to put the clamps down- its should have started several months earlier. Better late than never. No stone should be left unturned to ferret out leakers, with firings and/or prosecutions to those caught..
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/0 ... lls-240274

That might be the most ridiculous article I've read in quite some time

I imagine most of the other folks in the national security system would feel similarly

Culture of fear?

What is there to fear if you actually follow the laws governing classified information?

If I was involved in security clearance reviews I'd look real hard at people that claim to be in "fear"

[BDKJMU]

Took to long to put the clamps down- its should have started several months earlier. Better late than never. No stone should be left unturned to ferret out leakers, with firings and/or prosecutions to those caught..
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/0 ... lls-240274

That might be the most ridiculous article I've read in quite some time

I imagine most of the other folks in the national security system would feel similarly

Culture of fear?

What is there to fear if you actually follow the laws governing classified information?

If I was involved in security clearance reviews I'd look real hard at people that claim to be in "fear"

Yeah, the the claim of culture of fear is ridiculous. If you're not leaking there's nothing to fear..

[kalm]

If there's one thing we've learned over the years, it's to trust our media and intelligence community to get things right when it comes to national security and foreign policy.

[SDHornet]

If there's one thing we've learned over the years, it's to trust our media and intelligence community to get things right when it comes to national security and foreign policy.

Well played.

[SDHornet]

Ruh roh:

Four of the seven memos that former FBI Director James Comey wrote following his interactions with President Trump contained classified information, according to a new report.

The revelation, reported by The Hill, undercuts Comey’s claim during a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing last month that he believed that the information in the memos was unclassified.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/09/comey ... formation/

Note: Too lazy to find one of the Comey threads. Figured this would fit in nicely with the crumbling Russia narrative spin thread jelly is championing.

[Skjellyfetti]

Another one-two punch weekend... this time from the New York Times.

Saturday - NYT reports a meeting at Trump Tower between Kushner, Don Jr., Manafort, and a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties on June 9, 2016.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/08/us/p ... afort.html

Don Jr. responds by saying the meeting was about Russia's adoption law preventing Americans from adopting. (lol)

Sunday - NYT reports the meeting was to discuss kompromat the Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, had on Clinton.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/09/us/p ... afort.html

Don Jr. responds by saying that "claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for a meeting"... but, she had nothing to offer.



So, Don Jr., Kushner, and Manafort attended a meeting with the express intention of receiving damaging information. Either they were duped into a pointless meeting... or it was fruitful.

But, whether or not they did... it's ANOTHER fucking meeting Kushner "forgot" to include on his SF-86... under penalty of felony perjury.


And, it certainly explains why Fox News, et al., have begun changing their talking points from - "no evidence of collusion" to "collusion isn't illegal."

And, we've come quite a long way from - no Trump officials had any contact with any Russians during the campaign.

And, the best part - it isn't fake news because Don Jr. confirmed it. And, the leaks are from 5 sources in the White House.

according to three advisers to the White House briefed on the meeting and two others with knowledge of it.

[Skjellyfetti]

the crumbling Russia narrative spin thread jelly is championing.

Is Mueller an idiot or will he stop hiring more prosecutors and close this thing up soon?

[Ivytalk]

Jelly must've changed his sheets 3 times this weekend.

[Ibanez]

Another one-two punch weekend... this time from the New York Times.

Saturday - NYT reports a meeting at Trump Tower between Kushner, Don Jr., Manafort, and a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties on June 9, 2016.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/08/us/p ... afort.html

Don Jr. responds by saying the meeting was about Russia's adoption law preventing Americans from adopting. (lol)

Sunday - NYT reports the meeting was to discuss kompromat the Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, had on Clinton.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/09/us/p ... afort.html

Don Jr. responds by saying that "claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for a meeting"... but, she had nothing to offer.



So, Don Jr., Kushner, and Manafort attended a meeting with the express intention of receiving damaging information. Either they were duped into a pointless meeting... or it was fruitful.

But, whether or not they did... it's ANOTHER fucking meeting Kushner "forgot" to include on his SF-86... under penalty of felony perjury.


And, it certainly explains why Fox News, et al., have begun changing their talking points from - "no evidence of collusion" to "collusion isn't illegal."

And, we've come quite a long way from - no Trump officials had any contact with any Russians during the campaign.

And, the best part - it isn't fake news because Don Jr. confirmed it. And, the leaks are from 5 sources in the White House.

according to three advisers to the White House briefed on the meeting and two others with knowledge of it.

Just saying....if the Russians had approached Clinton, Cruz, Rubio, etc... with information they would've found a way to secretly meet. Having said that, CNN and MSNBC are having a field day this morning on it. CNN was interviewing Conway and kept interrupting her to the point where they asked a question and she had to keep telling them to be fair the viewers and read everything in context. CNN really has a bug up its ass for Trump.

Meanwhile, newspapers in the UK, Israel and Australia are all lauding Trump on his G20 visit, his speech in Poland and proposed trade deals with the UK. I haven't heard anything about those items in our MSM.

[kalm]

Another one-two punch weekend... this time from the New York Times.

Saturday - NYT reports a meeting at Trump Tower between Kushner, Don Jr., Manafort, and a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties on June 9, 2016.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/08/us/p ... afort.html

Don Jr. responds by saying the meeting was about Russia's adoption law preventing Americans from adopting. (lol)

Sunday - NYT reports the meeting was to discuss kompromat the Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, had on Clinton.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/09/us/p ... afort.html

Don Jr. responds by saying that "claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for a meeting"... but, she had nothing to offer.



So, Don Jr., Kushner, and Manafort attended a meeting with the express intention of receiving damaging information. Either they were duped into a pointless meeting... or it was fruitful.

But, whether or not they did... it's ANOTHER fucking meeting Kushner "forgot" to include on his SF-86... under penalty of felony perjury.


And, it certainly explains why Fox News, et al., have begun changing their talking points from - "no evidence of collusion" to "collusion isn't illegal."

And, we've come quite a long way from - no Trump officials had any contact with any Russians during the campaign.

And, the best part - it isn't fake news because Don Jr. confirmed it. And, the leaks are from 5 sources in the White House.

according to three advisers to the White House briefed on the meeting and two others with knowledge of it.

Depends what the definition of "collusion" is...

[GannonFan]

Another one-two punch weekend... this time from the New York Times.

Saturday - NYT reports a meeting at Trump Tower between Kushner, Don Jr., Manafort, and a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties on June 9, 2016.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/08/us/p ... afort.html

Don Jr. responds by saying the meeting was about Russia's adoption law preventing Americans from adopting. (lol)

Sunday - NYT reports the meeting was to discuss kompromat the Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, had on Clinton.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/09/us/p ... afort.html

Don Jr. responds by saying that "claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for a meeting"... but, she had nothing to offer.



So, Don Jr., Kushner, and Manafort attended a meeting with the express intention of receiving damaging information. Either they were duped into a pointless meeting... or it was fruitful.

But, whether or not they did... it's ANOTHER **** meeting Kushner "forgot" to include on his SF-86... under penalty of felony perjury.


And, it certainly explains why Fox News, et al., have begun changing their talking points from - "no evidence of collusion" to "collusion isn't illegal."

And, we've come quite a long way from - no Trump officials had any contact with any Russians during the campaign.

And, the best part - it isn't fake news because Don Jr. confirmed it. And, the leaks are from 5 sources in the White House.

Depends what the definition of "collusion" is...

Nonsense, collusion is clearly understood, from the beginning, to be any contact whatsoever with anyone from Russia, who has been to Russia, or knows where Russia is. In fact, there's a good debate going on now if watching "Firefox" counts as collusion since Clint Eastwood "thinks Russian" in the movie. There's a good number of political ads that could come from that movie alone in the upcoming elections.

[CAA Flagship]

Depends what the definition of "collusion" is...

Nonsense, collusion is clearly understood, from the beginning, to be any contact whatsoever with anyone from Russia, who has been to Russia, or knows where Russia is. In fact, there's a good debate going on now if watching "Firefox" counts as collusion since Clint Eastwood "thinks Russian" in the movie. There's a good number of political ads that could come from that movie alone in the upcoming elections.

Yes. And this includes watching the Olympics from Sochi on TV.

[GannonFan]

Nonsense, collusion is clearly understood, from the beginning, to be any contact whatsoever with anyone from Russia, who has been to Russia, or knows where Russia is. In fact, there's a good debate going on now if watching "Firefox" counts as collusion since Clint Eastwood "thinks Russian" in the movie. There's a good number of political ads that could come from that movie alone in the upcoming elections.

Yes. And this includes watching the Olympics from Sochi on TV.

Or the World Cup coming up in 2018. Soccer haters are sensing blood in the water on this one. On the bright side, the last time we had a Red Scare during or around a World Cup was in 1950 and the US had that big 1-0 upset over then perennial power England. Maybe the US could catch fire again???

[kalm]

Yes. And this includes watching the Olympics from Sochi on TV.

Or the World Cup coming up in 2018. Soccer haters are sensing blood in the water on this one. On the bright side, the last time we had a Red Scare during or around a World Cup was in 1950 and the US had that big 1-0 upset over then perennial power England. Maybe the US could catch fire again???

Thanks for proving Skelly's point.

[Skjellyfetti]

Still can't even be convinced that it's a valid subject worthy of investigation.

It's still some kind of narrative that I and the media created. Or just a Red Scare as Gannon likes to say.

Are Mueller, Rosenstein, and Richard Burr all tin foil hat wearing, CNN addicted, Democrat shills?

[GannonFan]

Or the World Cup coming up in 2018. Soccer haters are sensing blood in the water on this one. On the bright side, the last time we had a Red Scare during or around a World Cup was in 1950 and the US had that big 1-0 upset over then perennial power England. Maybe the US could catch fire again???

Thanks for proving Skelly's point.

What's his point? I'm not sure I can decipher it through all these pages. I'm not sure he knows his point. Please elucidate.

[kalm]

Thanks for proving Skelly's point.

What's his point? I'm not sure I can decipher it through all these pages. I'm not sure he knows his point. Please elucidate.

And, it certainly explains why Fox News, et al., have begun changing their talking points from - "no evidence of collusion" to "collusion isn't illegal."

[Skjellyfetti]

[kalm]

[CAA Flagship]

[Skjellyfetti]

Probably should have hired him BEFORE releasing a public statement admitting to soliciting campaign help from a foreign national?

Donald Trump Jr., the president's son, has hired New York lawyer Alan Futerfas to represent him in connection with Russia-related investigations, the lawyer and Trump Jr.'s office said on Monday.

Futerfas, a sole practitioner who specializes in criminal defense, would not say when he was retained or whether he had any input into the statements Trump Jr. made over the weekend about a meeting with a Russian lawyer.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-t ... SKBN19V2JX

[Skjellyfetti]

Before arranging a meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer he believed would offer him compromising information about Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump Jr. was informed in an email that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father’s candidacy, according to three people with knowledge of the email.

The email to the younger Mr. Trump was sent by Rob Goldstone, a publicist and former British tabloid reporter who helped broker the June 2016 meeting. In a statement on Sunday, Mr. Trump acknowledged that he was interested in receiving damaging information about Mrs. Clinton, but gave no indication that he thought the lawyer might have been a Kremlin proxy.

Mr. Goldstone’s message, as described to The New York Times by the three people, indicates that the Russian government was the source of the potentially damaging information. It does not elaborate on the wider effort by Moscow to help the Trump campaign. There is no evidence to suggest that the promised damaging information was related to Russian government computer hacking that led to the release of thousands of Democratic National Committee emails.

But the email is likely to be of keen interest to the Justice Department and congressional investigators, who are examining whether any of President Trump’s associates colluded with the Russian government to disrupt last year’s election. American intelligence agencies have determined that the Russian government attempted to sway the election in favor of Mr. Trump.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/us/p ... -smartlock

[Skjellyfetti]

This "nothingburger" sure has a lot of protein.

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[∞∞∞]

Trump Jr. is a complete idiot for releasing that email. But I'm sure investigators will take it.

When do Trump and co. begin eating each other alive?