JMU Bids

[UNHWildCats]

1st round bid was $46,768.50

For a second-round game, when the minimum is still $30,000, JMU bid $76,168.50. For the third round (minimum $40,000), it bid $100,056. For the fourth round, when the minimum is $50,000, Madison bid $125,743.50.

[clenz]

So...assuming $25 tickets and a decent attendance they would pull 500K from gate alone....and only bid that?

Wow.

[UNHWildCats]

So...assuming $25 tickets and a decent attendance they would pull 500K from gate alone....and only bid that?

Wow.

I guess the AD said they would only expect about 12,000 this weekend if they hsoted because of thanksgiving

[clenz]

So...assuming $25 tickets and a decent attendance they would pull 500K from gate alone....and only bid that?

Wow.

I guess the AD said they would only expect about 12,000 this weekend if they hsoted because of thanksgiving

12KX25=300K

Even with the NCAA's share taken out that is 75K profit.


Also, they the fuck do they need to spend that much money to redo their stadium if they can't draw half of their capacity for a playoff game?

[mainejeff]

So EKU's winning bid was probably $50K?

[DukeJack]

Fuck this shit this is the second time Bourne has fucked up this badly.

The only possible reason I can come up with for this crap is that Bourne knew Norfolk St would not be bidding, believed ODU would get a bye, and was expecting the Spartans to come to Bridgeforth, thus the lowball offer.

[rationalgriz]

I guess the AD said they would only expect about 12,000 this weekend if they hsoted because of thanksgiving

12KX25=300K

Even with the NCAA's share taken out that is 75K profit.


Also, they the **** do they need to spend that much money to redo their stadium if they can't draw half of their capacity for a playoff game?

Clenz, it would not be 75K profit. I do believe that expenses are deducted from the gate, including visitor travel, cost to stage the game, etc. and then the NCAA gets 75% of profit or the bid, whichever is greater.

[bisonguy]

So EKU's winning bid was probably $50K?

$46,768.68

[BDKJMU]

So...assuming $25 tickets and a decent attendance they would pull 500K from gate alone....and only bid that?

Wow.

I guess the AD said they would only expect about 12,000 this weekend if they hsoted because of thanksgiving

JMU had 12,800 when hosted Wofford 1st round Turkey Day weekend 08'. Granted were #1 seed then, but avg about 50% more now, 16k then, now about 25k. I would have been stunned to see less than 15k...

[BDKJMU]

Oh believe me, people on the JMU board are livid, as am I:
http://boards.caazone.com/showthread.ph ... -Round-One" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Starting about 3/4 of the way down page 4 of this thread when the news of the $46,768 round 1 bid broke:
http://boards.caazone.com/showthread.ph ... -EKU/page4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[BDKJMU]

November 21, 2011

Montana AD Confirms JMU was Outbid

Mike Barber
DukesofJMU.com Staff

Montana athletic director Jim O'Day, chairman of the NCAA I-AA football selection committee, said Monday the decision to give Eastern Kentucky a home game over James Madison in Saturday's first round of the playoffs came down to money - and lots of it.

"That ended up on a bid," O'Day said Monday. "Eastern Kentucky had a higher bid to host the game for the NCAA."

O'Day wouldn't reveal the bid amounts but said there was a sizeable difference between what JMU and EKU offered.

"It was considerable," O'Day said. "It was considerable."

Responding to a Freedom Of Information Act request, JMU released its bid submissions to the NCAA to the Daily News-Record on Monday.

To host a first round game, JMU bid $46,768.50. The minimum required bid is $30,000.

JMU's bids were significantly higher for the next three rounds, when the school projected larger crowds. Saturday's game could be hurt by both the Thanksgiving holiday, the fact that school is not in session and the competition from the weekend's Virginia-Virginia Tech.

For a second-round game, when the minimum is still $30,000, JMU bid $76,168.50. For the third round (minimum $40,000), it bid $100,056. For the fourth round, when the minimum is $50,000, Madison bid $125,743.50.

JMU athletic director Jeff Bourne said Sunday he believed the Dukes had been outbid by the Colonels. Bourne said he was surprised by the how much schools were willing to pay for home games this year.

"We ended up submitting what we felt was a very competitive bid based on prior history and what we felt was appropriate in regard to our stadium," Bourne said. "We're seeing a real shift in the types of commitments people are willing to make. To me this is a significant change."

Eastern Kentucky's willingness to enter a bid high enough to top JMU - bids were due to the NCAA with two games left in the season - is surprising outcome when you consider the Colonels average just over 7,267 fans a game in Richmond, Ky., and their largest crowd of the year was just over 10,000.

JMU, meanwhile, drew 25,002 fans a game this year at renovated Bridgeforth Stadium.

But in a statement from Bourne posted on JMU's website Sunday night, the athletic director said he projected a crowd of just 12,000 for a potential first-round home game the weekend after Thanksgiving, when most students have left the area on break.

O'Day said he couldn't comment on the committee's decision not to award Colonial Athletic Association champion Towson one of the five seeded positions in the tournament, because - with Montana in consideration - O'Day had to step out of the room for that debate and vote.

He said he sat outside the meeting room at the NCAA's Indianapolis headquarters, enjoying a diet Coke and "relaxing."

As for the exclusion of Delaware, which did not make the playoffs with a 7-4 record, in large part due to a D-II win over West Chester, O'Day said the Hens were one of the final teams up for consideration.

"They were very much in consideration," O'Day said. "Their six wins were quality wins. I know they feel a little slighted that they didn't get in."
http://jamesmadison.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1297128" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[DMoo531]

to bid 76K or 1M made no sense. If you look at the bracket, assuming you win, JMU plays in the FargoDome. No amount of money can change that.

[grizzaholic]

to bid 76K or 1M made no sense. If you look at the bracket, assuming you win, JMU plays in the FargoDome. No amount of money can change that.

OK JMU. ONE TIME OFFER HERE.

MY support if you travel to NDSU. I hope you destroy them. Dash every hope and dream. Throw them a beating, the likes they have only heard of. No mercy.

[catbooster]

to bid 76K or 1M made no sense. If you look at the bracket, assuming you win, JMU plays in the FargoDome. No amount of money can change that.

The bids are submitted before the end of the season, so you don't know how the brackets will turn out. They would not know whether they would be travelling to a seed for any given game. Plus, the seed may be beaten by someone before then, at which point the bids come back into play.

[Grizalltheway]

If only his name were JASON Bourne, he may have had the balls to bid higher.

[BDKJMU]

The threads I listed were just 2 of the double digit number of threads on JMU getting outbid....actually started to get ridiculous...

[bluehenbillk]

That bid just seems low. Biggest f-up since UD AD Edgar Johnson & our ticket guy only requested 3,000 tickets to the Appy game in Chatty.

[Skjellyfetti]

That bid just seems low. Biggest f-up since UD AD Edgar Johnson & our ticket guy only requested 3,000 tickets to the Appy game in Chatty.

And Georgia Southern forgetting to bid for the quarterfinal game last year.
http://www.gadaily.com/index.php/sports ... finals-bid" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[danefan]

Maybe someone can confirm this is what happened, but wouldn't you think the minimum bid would be whatever ends up with you breaking even or even taking an immaterial loss on hosting the game?

Is that what JMU did?

[89Hen]

JMU athletic director Jeff Bourne said Sunday he believed the Dukes had been outbid by the Colonels. Bourne said he was surprised by the how much schools were willing to pay for home games this year.

"We ended up submitting what we felt was a very competitive bid based on prior history and what we felt was appropriate in regard to our stadium," Bourne said. "We're seeing a real shift in the types of commitments people are willing to make. To me this is a significant change."

Is it really a change? Teams have bought home games before. I guess that's the part he doesn't get. It's not how much you can bid and still turn a profit... it's how much are you willing to spend to move your program forward. A new stadium and no home game = I'm not sure this guy should be your AD.

[89Hen]

Maybe someone can confirm this is what happened, but wouldn't you think the minimum bid would be whatever ends up with you breaking even or even taking an immaterial loss on hosting the game?

Is that what JMU did?

See my post. It is what JMU did, but obviously there is another consideration at play.

[danefan]

JMU athletic director Jeff Bourne said Sunday he believed the Dukes had been outbid by the Colonels. Bourne said he was surprised by the how much schools were willing to pay for home games this year.

"We ended up submitting what we felt was a very competitive bid based on prior history and what we felt was appropriate in regard to our stadium," Bourne said. "We're seeing a real shift in the types of commitments people are willing to make. To me this is a significant change."

Is it really a change? Teams have bought home games before. I guess that's the part he doesn't get. It's not how much you can bid and still turn a profit... it's how much are you willing to spend to move your program forward. A new stadium and no home game = I'm not sure this guy should be your AD.

You said it better than I tried to.

BTW - ever try explaining to someone who doesn't know anything about FCS football how home games are determined in the FCS playoffs?

Sounds a lot like you have to bribe the NCAA.......

[89Hen]

the competition from the weekend's Virginia-Virginia Tech.

Wahoo-wah! Can't remember the last time that game had real meaning.

[89Hen]

BTW - ever try explaining to someone who doesn't know anything about FCS football how home games are determined in the FCS playoffs?

Sounds a lot like you have to bribe the NCAA.......

You're right there. Almost sounds like how you host the World Cup. Maybe JMU should hire some advisors from Qatar.

[DSUrocks07]

$.50