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Postby CID1990 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:53 am

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How about we use conspiracy then? I’ve said it like this right here on this here thread before (many times)

Conspiracy with Russians to throw the elections

Does that work?

PS- it didn’t happen


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Yeah Cid, that’s what I’ve been saying for two years. That’s what I said in my post that you quoted. Call it what it is- conspiracy. I’m not sure why your panties are in a bunch.

Give it the name of the crime. And if there’s proof, deal with it. If not, let’s move on.


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Well, “collusion” is not the title of a crime, but it succinctly describes the element of the crime that is being alleged by those who are convinced it happened. “Collusion” is a tidy way to describe “conspiring with Russians to throw the election”

Takes less time to type, too
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Postby Ibanez » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:41 am

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Ibanez wrote:Yeah Cid, that’s what I’ve been saying for two years. That’s what I said in my post that you quoted. Call it what it is- conspiracy. I’m not sure why your panties are in a bunch.

Give it the name of the crime. And if there’s proof, deal with it. If not, let’s move on.


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Well, “collusion” is not the title of a crime, but it succinctly describes the element of the crime that is being alleged by those who are convinced it happened. “Collusion” is a tidy way to describe “conspiring with Russians to throw the election”

Takes less time to type, too

That’s a good summary. JSO- take a clue


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Postby SeattleGriz » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:02 pm

Christopher Steele citing iReport as a source. Bwahaha! Super spy!
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Postby Skjellyfetti » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:32 am

Federal Authorities Raided Trump Fundraiser’s Office in Money Laundering Probe

Federal authorities raided the office of Republican fundraiser Elliott Broidy last summer, seeking records related to his dealings with foreign officials and Trump administration associates, according to a sealed search warrant obtained by ProPublica.

Agents were authorized to use the megadonor’s hands and face to unlock any phones that required fingerprint or facial scans.

The Washington Post reported in August that the Justice Department was investigating Broidy. The sealed warrant offers new details of federal authorities’ investigation of allegations that Broidy had attempted to cash in on his Trump White House connections in dealings with foreign officials. It also shows that the government took a more aggressive approach with the Trump ally than was previously known, entering his office and removing records — just as it did with Trump’s personal lawyer Michael Cohen.

Broidy served as a major Trump campaign fundraiser and was the national deputy finance chair of the Republican National Committee until he resigned in April 2018, when it was revealed he had agreed to secretly pay off a former Playboy model in exchange for her silence about their affair.

The search warrant cites three potential crimes that authorities are investigating: conspiracy, money laundering and violations of the law barring covert lobbying on behalf of foreign officials. To obtain a search warrant, authorities have to convince a judge that there’s a probable cause they will find evidence of those specific crimes.


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Postby Skjellyfetti » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:21 pm

Someone's getting nervous.......









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Mueller is going to take a beating on the left before this business is over

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Postby Ivytalk » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:39 am

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Postby Ibanez » Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:34 pm

The report is in.


Now we play the waiting game


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Postby ∞∞∞ » Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:52 pm

Ibanez wrote:The report is in.

Now we play the waiting game

Whatever the conclusions, I hope it becomes public.

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Postby kalm » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:03 pm

Ivytalk wrote:JellyBelly = The New Spandos


Yeah it’s hardly a revelation the Trump Inc. was knee deep in it with the ruskies. The only question is whether any of it was illegal.

Foreign meddling with elections and bribery are right up there with sinking the world wide economy. No laws were broken or prosecution would cause further damage so it must be alright. :coffee:
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Postby Pwns » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:16 pm

No more indictments.
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Postby ∞∞∞ » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:19 pm

Pwns wrote:No more indictments.

Not from the special counsel's office, but permanent prosecuting offices might not be done.

There's also the possibility of sealed indictments having already been filed.

Regardless, let's make this report public.

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Postby Ibanez » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:38 pm

Pwns wrote:No more indictments.

Yup. Sitting presidents don’t get indicted.


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Postby ∞∞∞ » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:51 pm

Ibanez wrote:
Pwns wrote:No more indictments.

Yup. Sitting presidents don’t get indicted.

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And if "Individual #1" is Trump, he's already been named as a non-indicted conspirator to Cohen and others.

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Postby CID1990 » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:34 pm

SAD TROMBONE

No sealed indictments.

Not even Carter Page? Hmm

So I predicted they’d get Flynn, and they got Flynn and Manafort.

And as special prosecutors go, this one was wrapped up pretty quickly. Surely this investigation could not have been thorough enough!

I don’t get MSNBC over here somebody let me know when the “why didn’t Mueller do this or that” talking heads start bleating


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Postby 93henfan » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:48 pm

This thing is faaaaaaaaaar from over. I wouldn't spike that football just yet.

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Postby ∞∞∞ » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:55 pm

93henfan wrote:This thing is faaaaaaaaaar from over. I wouldn't spike that football just yet.

You'd think of all people, CID would know that. :?

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Postby 93henfan » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:58 pm

∞∞∞ wrote:
93henfan wrote:This thing is faaaaaaaaaar from over. I wouldn't spike that football just yet.

You'd think of all people, CID would know that. :?


He's a smart guy. He also likes to fun around on the boards.

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Postby SeattleGriz » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:08 pm

Trump will be in jail by Monday and Adam Schiff will be lauded as the hero he is. Two years of telling us he has proof of collusion.

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Postby ∞∞∞ » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:15 pm

BTW, kinda odd that Trump hasn't tweeted anything yet. Not that it's relevant or something to read into, but it simply seems out-of-character for Trump not to throw in his two-cents on something major (especially when it deals directly about him).

Although now I'm sure I'll wake up to 20 tweets tomorrow.

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Postby 93henfan » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:18 pm

∞∞∞ wrote:BTW, kinda odd that Trump hasn't tweeted anything yet. Not that it's relevant or something to read into, but it simply seems out-of-character for Trump not to throw in his two-cents on something major (especially when it deals directly about him).

Although now I'm sure I'll wake up to 20 tweets tomorrow.


You know his Twitter finger is itching. He's waiting for his attorneys to fall asleep down there in Florida. :lol:

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Postby SDHornet » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:41 pm

Pwns wrote:No more indictments.



:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby Ivytalk » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:09 pm

kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:JellyBelly = The New Spandos


Yeah it’s hardly a revelation the Trump Inc. was knee deep in it with the ruskies. The only question is whether any of it was illegal.

Foreign meddling with elections and bribery are right up there with sinking the world wide economy. No laws were broken or prosecution would cause further damage so it must be alright. :coffee:

Deflection. :tothehand:

Russian meddling with elections: wrong.

No collusion with POTUS: expected finding.

Ergo: sanction Vidav’s cousins and get on with the business of guvmint.
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Postby CID1990 » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:14 pm

93henfan wrote:This thing is faaaaaaaaaar from over. I wouldn't spike that football just yet.


On “conspiring with Russians to influence the elections”?

It was over before it began.

But if you are referring to twenty odd House investigations into Trump then yeah

But the Russian collusion conspiracy extravaganza is over


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Postby Ivytalk » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:19 pm

CID1990 wrote:
93henfan wrote:This thing is faaaaaaaaaar from over. I wouldn't spike that football just yet.


On “conspiring with Russians to influence the elections”?

It was over before it began.

But if you are referring to twenty odd House investigations into Trump then yeah

But the Russian collusion conspiracy extravaganza is over


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Postby JohnStOnge » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:33 pm

Ivytalk wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
On “conspiring with Russians to influence the elections”?

It was over before it began.

But if you are referring to twenty odd House investigations into Trump then yeah

But the Russian collusion conspiracy extravaganza is over


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Could be. But on the other hand we have that thing where the Justice Department has a policy about not indicting a sitting President. So even if you find that the sitting President did something illegal that had to do with colluding with Russia he wouldn't be indicted. And if he wouldn't be indicted you have that other thing where the Justice Department is going to discourage saying anything.

It's also quite possible that there could be cooperation between the Trump campaign and Russia that is not a criminal law violation.

I would not be shocked to see the collusion thing end at this point. I also would not be shocked to see it continue.
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