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Postby SeattleGriz » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:36 am

Well well. Seems the FBI didn't actually even get to see the Crowd strike report on the Russian hacking of the DNC.

A redacted draft report was supposedly sufficient evidence of Russian hacking for the FBI.

This info came out because of Roger Stone trial, but am sure it would have come out anyway.

The DNC server issue is foundation, and cornerstone, of the U.S. government’s position on “Russia hacking” and the election interference narrative; and that narrative is based on zero factual evidence to affirm the U.S. government’s position.


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Postby Skjellyfetti » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:24 pm

Mueller testifying publicly July 17 in front of the House Judiciary committee.

Mueller's staff testifying behind closed doors the same day in front of the House Intelligence committee.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/25/politics ... index.html
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Postby GannonFan » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:33 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:Mueller testifying publicly July 17 in front of the House Judiciary committee.

Mueller's staff testifying behind closed doors the same day in front of the House Intelligence committee.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/25/politics ... index.html


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Postby css75 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:39 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:Mueller testifying publicly July 17 in front of the House Judiciary committee.

Mueller's staff testifying behind closed doors the same day in front of the House Intelligence committee.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/25/politics ... index.html


Still a big fat nothing burger , don’t get too excited you will only end up with even more TDS


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Postby CID1990 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:05 am

What's this, Reek?

The House doesn't think Mueller put everything in his report? I think he already said that.
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Postby Skjellyfetti » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:58 am

As his press conference showed - people don't like reading.
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Cid1990 wrote:It is going to be a sad day for a lot of people when all that comes of all of this is Flynn getting whacked.

Mueller is going to take a beating on the left before this business is over

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Postby kalm » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:00 am

GannonFan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Mueller testifying publicly July 17 in front of the House Judiciary committee.

Mueller's staff testifying behind closed doors the same day in front of the House Intelligence committee.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/25/politics ... index.html


Think he found a Trump/Russian conspiracy yet? Probably any day now. :coffee:


It's rather obvious that Trump thought he did. :lol:
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Postby CID1990 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:45 am

Wow then!

Mueller goes through all that trouble just to get hauled in front of two different House committees

Hey Moderator Kitteh.... please lock Reek’s account so he can’t change his siggy

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Postby JohnStOnge » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:30 pm

It looks to me like the Republicans are about to make a colossal mistake. It looks to me like they are going to go after Mueller with respect to the start of the Russia inquiry. I think they would be better off not doing that.
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Postby SeattleGriz » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:43 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:It looks to me like the Republicans are about to make a colossal mistake. It looks to me like they are going to go after Mueller with respect to the start of the Russia inquiry. I think they would be better off not doing that.
And why is that, if damaging information comes out?
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Postby CID1990 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:28 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:It looks to me like the Republicans are about to make a colossal mistake. It looks to me like they are going to go after Mueller with respect to the start of the Russia inquiry. I think they would be better off not doing that.


They won't change any minds so who cares?

But I wonder - why would it be a colossal mistake? How are they possibly going to be punished for questioning a special prosecutor on the genesis of his appointment? Polls show that a plurality of Americans want to move on now that Mueller has finished his investigation. So who exactly is going to look petty by bringing him in front of the House committees?

Or put another way - how is questioning Mueller on the genesis of his appointment any more damaging than bringing him in front of House committees in the first place, to question him on why he punted on obstruction? Because THAT'S why the Democrats are bringing him in.

You've got some myopic shades on there, dude.
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Postby SDHornet » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:47 pm

CID1990 wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:It looks to me like the Republicans are about to make a colossal mistake. It looks to me like they are going to go after Mueller with respect to the start of the Russia inquiry. I think they would be better off not doing that.


They won't change any minds so who cares?

But I wonder - why would it be a colossal mistake? How are they possibly going to be punished for questioning a special prosecutor on the genesis of his appointment? Polls show that a plurality of Americans want to move on now that Mueller has finished his investigation. So who exactly is going to look petty by bringing him in front of the House committees?

Or put another way - how is questioning Mueller on the genesis of his appointment any more damaging than bringing him in front of House committees in the first place, to question him on why he punted on obstruction? Because THAT'S why the Democrats are bringing him in.

You've got some myopic shades on there, dude.

Another plot twist in this saga. :lol:

Oh and they need to subpoena Weissman too. :nod:

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Postby Ibanez » Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:40 am

CID1990 wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:It looks to me like the Republicans are about to make a colossal mistake. It looks to me like they are going to go after Mueller with respect to the start of the Russia inquiry. I think they would be better off not doing that.


They won't change any minds so who cares?

But I wonder - why would it be a colossal mistake? How are they possibly going to be punished for questioning a special prosecutor on the genesis of his appointment? Polls show that a plurality of Americans want to move on now that Mueller has finished his investigation. So who exactly is going to look petty by bringing him in front of the House committees?

Or put another way - how is questioning Mueller on the genesis of his appointment any more damaging than bringing him in front of House committees in the first place, to question him on why he punted on obstruction? Because THAT'S why the Democrats are bringing him in.

You've got some myopic shades on there, dude.

It'll be another attack the messenger situation. Republicans will try to tear down Mueller, Democrats will go rabid after anything to make Trump look bad.

We've seen this before. Unless there's something bi-partisan they can agree on, this will be a goat rope. :thumbdown:
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Postby CID1990 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:21 am

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CID1990 wrote:
They won't change any minds so who cares?

But I wonder - why would it be a colossal mistake? How are they possibly going to be punished for questioning a special prosecutor on the genesis of his appointment? Polls show that a plurality of Americans want to move on now that Mueller has finished his investigation. So who exactly is going to look petty by bringing him in front of the House committees?

Or put another way - how is questioning Mueller on the genesis of his appointment any more damaging than bringing him in front of House committees in the first place, to question him on why he punted on obstruction? Because THAT'S why the Democrats are bringing him in.

You've got some myopic shades on there, dude.

It'll be another attack the messenger situation. Republicans will try to tear down Mueller, Democrats will go rabid after anything to make Trump look bad.

We've seen this before. Unless there's something bi-partisan they can agree on, this will be a goat rope. :thumbdown:


I actually don’t think they’ll do that. The report already essentially says there was no “there” there, which of course I said all along in this thread...

I think they’ll ask questions about what evidence he was working from at the beginning

But if anyone stands to lose here, it is the Dems who demanded his appearance in the first place. They are going to want to know why he whiffed on obstruction and the tendency there is going to be less than amicable.

If the GOP reps turn up the burners on him that would be very stupid. I don’t think they’ll go full bore

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Postby Ibanez » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:27 am

CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:It'll be another attack the messenger situation. Republicans will try to tear down Mueller, Democrats will go rabid after anything to make Trump look bad.

We've seen this before. Unless there's something bi-partisan they can agree on, this will be a goat rope. :thumbdown:


I actually don’t think they’ll do that. The report already essentially says there was no “there” there, which of course I said all along in this thread...

I think they’ll ask questions about what evidence he was working from at the beginning

But if anyone stands to lose here, it is the Dems who demanded his appearance in the first place. They are going to want to know why he whiffed on obstruction and the tendency there is going to be less than amicable.

If the GOP reps turn up the burners on him that would be very stupid. I don’t think they’ll go full bore

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Postby Skjellyfetti » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:30 am

CID1990 wrote:The report already essentially says there was no “there” there


It said there was not sufficient evidence to charge conspiracy.

The report also didn't go into the counterintelligence portion of the investigation. The closed door hearing will be the first anyone has heard of that.

CID1990 wrote:They are going to want to know why he whiffed on obstruction


Already explained in his report and press conference.

He didn't "whiff" on it. The DoJ considers a sitting President to be unindictable. He said the appropriate body to handle it is Congress. So, here we are.
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Postby CID1990 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:39 am

Skjellyfetti wrote:
CID1990 wrote:The report already essentially says there was no “there” there


It said there was not sufficient evidence to charge conspiracy.

The report also didn't go into the counterintelligence portion of the investigation. The closed door hearing will be the first anyone has heard of that.

CID1990 wrote:They are going to want to know why he whiffed on obstruction


Already explained in his report and press conference.

He didn't "whiff" on it. The DoJ considers a sitting President to be unindictable. He said the appropriate body to handle it is Congress. So, here we are.


I don’t know why you slink back in here, really... you must like bukkake from the receiving end

No conspiracy. I was right. Move the goalposts all you want, Reek

As for obstruction, impeach the guy. Its all there. If you think the Dems are calling Mueller just to get a CI briefing.... what am I saying? Of course you think they have constructive reasons

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Postby Ibanez » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:42 am

CID1990 wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
It said there was not sufficient evidence to charge conspiracy.

The report also didn't go into the counterintelligence portion of the investigation. The closed door hearing will be the first anyone has heard of that.



Already explained in his report and press conference.

He didn't "whiff" on it. The DoJ considers a sitting President to be unindictable. He said the appropriate body to handle it is Congress. So, here we are.


I don’t know why you slink back in here, really... you must like bukkake from the receiving end

No conspiracy. I was right. Move the goalposts all you want, Reek

As for obstruction, impeach the guy. Its all there. If you think the Dems are calling Mueller just to get a CI briefing.... what am I saying? Of course you think they have constructive reasons

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Either impeach or STFU.





But that's not their motive. The Dems will continue to keep the story alive in hopes it hurts him in the election.
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Postby CID1990 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:48 am

Ibanez wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
I don’t know why you slink back in here, really... you must like bukkake from the receiving end

No conspiracy. I was right. Move the goalposts all you want, Reek

As for obstruction, impeach the guy. Its all there. If you think the Dems are calling Mueller just to get a CI briefing.... what am I saying? Of course you think they have constructive reasons

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Either impeach or STFU.





But that's not their motive. The Dems will continue to keep the story alive in hopes it hurts him in the election.


Exactly

And that isn’t going to play well with a plurality of voters


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Postby SDHornet » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:23 pm

CID1990 wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
It said there was not sufficient evidence to charge conspiracy.

The report also didn't go into the counterintelligence portion of the investigation. The closed door hearing will be the first anyone has heard of that.



Already explained in his report and press conference.

He didn't "whiff" on it. The DoJ considers a sitting President to be unindictable. He said the appropriate body to handle it is Congress. So, here we are.


I don’t know why you slink back in here, really... [u]you must like bukkake from the receiving end[/u]

No conspiracy. I was right. Move the goalposts all you want, Reek

As for obstruction, impeach the guy. Its all there. If you think the Dems are calling Mueller just to get a CI briefing.... what am I saying? Of course you think they have constructive reasons

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Oh no doubt he does. Anyone still clinging to the Trump Russia hoax at this point has some issue. :nod:

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Skjellyfetti wrote:
CID1990 wrote:The report already essentially says there was no “there” there


It said there was not sufficient evidence to charge conspiracy.

The report also didn't go into the counterintelligence portion of the investigation. The closed door hearing will be the first anyone has heard of that.

CID1990 wrote:They are going to want to know why he whiffed on obstruction


Already explained in his report and press conference.

He didn't "whiff" on it. The DoJ considers a sitting President to be unindictable. He said the appropriate body to handle it is Congress. So, here we are.


Give it a rest jelly, it is over, Trump won, Hildabeast lost, time to move on and end the witch hunt. Dems are not going to fare well with this.


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Postby SeattleGriz » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:14 pm

And the hits keep coming for Mueller. Those damn Russians who hired lawyers in America to defend them.


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Postby Skjellyfetti » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:59 pm

The ones that have tried 5 or 6 times to get the case dismissed and have been bitchslapped each time?
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Skjellyfetti wrote:The ones that have tried 5 or 6 times to get the case dismissed and have been bitchslapped each time?



I do like your never say die outlook. It is too bad the horse is 15 miles down the road while you are closing the stable door.


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Postby SeattleGriz » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:34 am

Skjellyfetti wrote:The ones that have tried 5 or 6 times to get the case dismissed and have been bitchslapped each time?


You mean the ones who have done immense damage to the Mueller Russian Collusion case? Yes, them.
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