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Postby css75 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:22 pm

houndawg wrote:
SDHornet wrote:Hhmmm...Lisa Page lied about editing the 302's on the Flynn case...interesting...

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1187 ... 45792.html


Fake news. False flag deep state disinformation campaign :coffee:



You may have to change your mind when people start going to court. DC lawyers gonna have some major paydays.


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Postby houndawg » Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:29 pm

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houndawg wrote:
Fake news. False flag deep state disinformation campaign :coffee:



You may have to change your mind when people start going to court. DC lawyers gonna have some major paydays.


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Just a diversion. :coffee:

Exactly the move you would expect from somebody with nothing to hide... :lol:
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Postby css75 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:51 pm

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css75 wrote:

You may have to change your mind when people start going to court. DC lawyers gonna have some major paydays.


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Just a diversion. :coffee:

Exactly the move you would expect from somebody with nothing to hide... :lol:



Oh ok.



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Postby SeattleGriz » Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:59 am

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css75 wrote:

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Just a diversion. :coffee:

Exactly the move you would expect from somebody with nothing to hide... :lol:


James Baker apparently has nothing to hide, as he has flipped and started squealing.
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Postby CID1990 » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:21 am

A lot of this stuff is a sideshow. Yes, there are dirty players on the left and they should be dealt with

But John Bolton is getting ready to testify and he is going to confirm that before he began to be cut out of the loop, there was talk of a quid pro quo with Ukraine

Trump is going to be impeached in the House

But the real question is what Schiff’s committee is going to dig up. It is possible that Bolton could give them enough to force a swing in the Senate. I can already think of a couple GOP Senators right now who would vote to convict Trump. There are three more who would not need much of a push.
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Postby SeattleGriz » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:03 pm

CID1990 wrote:A lot of this stuff is a sideshow. Yes, there are dirty players on the left and they should be dealt with

But John Bolton is getting ready to testify and he is going to confirm that before he began to be cut out of the loop, there was talk of a quid pro quo with Ukraine

Trump is going to be impeached in the House

But the real question is what Schiff’s committee is going to dig up. It is possible that Bolton could give them enough to force a swing in the Senate. I can already think of a couple GOP Senators right now who would vote to convict Trump. There are three more who would not need much of a push.


In your honest opinion, do you find Trumps insistence troubling? Is his request out of the norm?
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Postby CID1990 » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:27 pm

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CID1990 wrote:A lot of this stuff is a sideshow. Yes, there are dirty players on the left and they should be dealt with

But John Bolton is getting ready to testify and he is going to confirm that before he began to be cut out of the loop, there was talk of a quid pro quo with Ukraine

Trump is going to be impeached in the House

But the real question is what Schiff’s committee is going to dig up. It is possible that Bolton could give them enough to force a swing in the Senate. I can already think of a couple GOP Senators right now who would vote to convict Trump. There are three more who would not need much of a push.


In your honest opinion, do you find Trumps insistence troubling? Is his request out of the norm?


What request? Asking Ukraine to reopen the Burisma investigation?

If it was tied to military aid then yes, it was way beyond the pale. That’s why Trump had to send Rudy et al to do it. Because the professional FP employees were advising against it. Everything I have seen from Taylor is consistent with what the reaction would have been from any US diplomat. And let’s not forget that Taylor is not in the liberal camp and he’s not a never Trumper either. If he says there was hanky panky then it is true.

Now, whether or not it is an impeachable offense is a purely political exercise. In fact, it doesn’t matter if it was on the up and up or not. Congress can decide what is impeachable and if they choose poorly they will be punished at the ballot box.


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Postby houndawg » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:32 am

CID1990 wrote:A lot of this stuff is a sideshow. Yes, there are dirty players on the left and they should be dealt with

But John Bolton is getting ready to testify and he is going to confirm that before he began to be cut out of the loop, there was talk of a quid pro quo with Ukraine

Trump is going to be impeached in the House

But the real question is what Schiff’s committee is going to dig up. It is possible that Bolton could give them enough to force a swing in the Senate. I can already think of a couple GOP Senators right now who would vote to convict Trump. There are three more who would not need much of a push.



Republican Senators would dare cross Trump? It would have to be costing them money personally to find the balls necessary.
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Postby Skjellyfetti » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:29 pm

Oh. Flynn's 302s weren't edited.

I wonder where that originated. I bet a John Solomon article. :lol:

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Postby GannonFan » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:54 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:Oh. Flynn's 302s weren't edited.

I wonder where that originated. I bet a John Solomon article. :lol:



Skelly still posting in this thread is hysterical. As if we're going to find the Russian conspiracy any day now. :rofl:
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Postby Skjellyfetti » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:58 pm

Youre one post away from hitting the 200 mark in this thread.

Impressive. :clap:
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Mueller is going to take a beating on the left before this business is over

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Postby SDHornet » Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:40 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:Oh. Flynn's 302s weren't edited.

I wonder where that originated. I bet a John Solomon article. :lol:


Whoops :rofl:


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Postby SeattleGriz » Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:42 pm

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/04/sc ... te-smears/

These close connections between the Washington Post’s David Ignatius and people connected to U.S. and U.K. intelligence raise grave concerns about the deep state using media to push propaganda
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Postby SDHornet » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:32 pm

But no "Deep State" though...


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Postby SeattleGriz » Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:47 pm

Really? What a joke. Should be embarrassed. Government now saying they mixed up who wrote which 302 on Flynn.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... ore-175478
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Postby houndawg » Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:04 am

SeattleGriz wrote:Really? What a joke. Should be embarrassed. Government now saying they mixed up who wrote which 302 on Flynn.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... ore-175478


Hey look over there!
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Postby BDKJMU » Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:07 pm

So the DOJ IG (full report to be released 12/9) says the FBI falsified FISA warrant to spy on Trump campaign.

Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz has found evidence that an FBI lawyer manipulated a key investigative document related to the FBI's secretive surveillance of a former Trump campaign adviser -- enough to change the substantive meaning of the document, according to multiple reports.


The 2016 messages, sent between Lisa Page and then-FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, also revealed that bureau brass circulated at least two anti-Trump blog articles, including a Lawfare blog post sent shortly after Election Day that called Trump possibly "among the major threats to the security of the country."

Fox News is told the texts were connected to the ultimately successful Page application, which relied in part on information from British ex-spy Christopher Steele – whose anti-Trump views are now well-documented – and cited Page’s suspected Russia ties. In its warrant application, the FBI inaccurately assured the FISA court on numerous occasions that media sources independently corroborated Steele's claims, and did not clearly state that Steele worked for a firm hired by Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC).

Much of the Steele dossier has been proved discredited or unsubstantiated, including the dossier's claims that the Trump campaign was paying hackers in the United States out of a non-existent Russian consulate in Miami, or that ex-Trump lawyer Michael Cohen traveled to Prague to conspire with Russians. Special Counsel Robert Mueller also was unable to substantiate the dossier's claims that Carter Page had received a large payment relating to the sale of a share of Rosneft, a Russian oil giant, or that a lurid blackmail tape involving the president existed.

Despite being accused by the FBI of being a Russian agent in the FISA application, and being secretly surveilled for more than a year, Page has not been charged with any wrongdoing. He has since sued numerous actors -- including the DNC -- for defamation related to claims that he worked with Russia.

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Postby SeattleGriz » Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:15 pm

houndawg wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Really? What a joke. Should be embarrassed. Government now saying they mixed up who wrote which 302 on Flynn.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... ore-175478


Hey look over there!


We'll see. If the FBI can't even keep track of who filled out a 302 form, then what other blunders exist.

Flynn's new attorney is uncovering quite a bit of FBI wrong doing.
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Postby houndawg » Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:16 pm

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Just a diversion. :coffee:

Exactly the move you would expect from somebody with nothing to hide... :lol:



Oh ok.



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When your entire defense is preventing people from testifying..... you did it. :nod:
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Postby houndawg » Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:00 am

SDHornet wrote:


All they have to do is stand up and tell their story under oath..... not the ones that are already in prison of course...
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Postby Skjellyfetti » Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:49 pm

Awww. Barr is going to have to appoint Durham to investigate the Durham investigation. :(

Barr’s handpicked prosecutor tells inspector general he can’t back right-wing theory that Russia case was U.S. intelligence setup

The prosecutor handpicked by Attorney General William P. Barr to scrutinize how U.S. agencies investigated President Trump’s 2016 campaign said he could not offer evidence to the Justice Department’s inspector general to support the suspicions of some conservatives that the case was a setup by American intelligence, people familiar with the matter said.

Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s office contacted U.S. Attorney John Durham, the prosecutor Barr personally tapped to lead a separate review of the 2016 probe into possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia, the people said. The inspector general also contacted several U.S. intelligence agencies.

Among Horowitz’s questions: whether a Maltese professor who interacted with a Trump campaign adviser was actually a U.S. intelligence asset deployed to ensnare the campaign, the people said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the inspector general’s findings have not been made public.

But the intelligence agencies said the professor was not among their assets, the people said. And Durham informed Horowitz’s office that his investigation had not produced any evidence that might contradict the inspector general’s findings on that point.


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Mueller is going to take a beating on the left before this business is over

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Postby SeattleGriz » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:56 am

Skjellyfetti wrote:Awww. Barr is going to have to appoint Durham to investigate the Durham investigation. :(

Barr’s handpicked prosecutor tells inspector general he can’t back right-wing theory that Russia case was U.S. intelligence setup

The prosecutor handpicked by Attorney General William P. Barr to scrutinize how U.S. agencies investigated President Trump’s 2016 campaign said he could not offer evidence to the Justice Department’s inspector general to support the suspicions of some conservatives that the case was a setup by American intelligence, people familiar with the matter said.

Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s office contacted U.S. Attorney John Durham, the prosecutor Barr personally tapped to lead a separate review of the 2016 probe into possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia, the people said. The inspector general also contacted several U.S. intelligence agencies.

Among Horowitz’s questions: whether a Maltese professor who interacted with a Trump campaign adviser was actually a U.S. intelligence asset deployed to ensnare the campaign, the people said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the inspector general’s findings have not been made public.

But the intelligence agencies said the professor was not among their assets, the people said. And Durham informed Horowitz’s office that his investigation had not produced any evidence that might contradict the inspector general’s findings on that point.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html



According to this article, Mifsud is not a US intelligence asset? No shit.

WaPo was screaming he was a Russian asset all up until Mueller. Remember, Mifsud was key to the Russians having emails on Hillary.

This is narrative setting by WaPo. I love how it's titled a right wing theory, but can't seem to find any headlines on how their left wing theory of collusion was busted by Mueller.
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Postby 89Hen » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:25 am

I honestly can't believe Jelly is digging this thread up again.
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