CAA Flagship wrote:Chizzang wrote:
I'm a Red Sox fan and I cannot imagine the Hall of Fame without that guy...
Here's the problem. Usually you look to determine where the HOF candidate ranks with others in his era.
Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Mussina, Johnson, Pedro, Clemens, Moyer, Halladay, Schilling, Sabathia, Colon, Moyer, Wakefield, and several others had part of their prime years overlap with Pettitte's prime years. I think there are 83 pitchers in the HOF now. That includes 7 listed above.
How deep can you go? If you say 10, he would have to be better than Clemens, Schilling, or Sabathia.
It's a great debate.
Bottom line is this: he was a Yankee, so he's out. If you principally played as a Yankee, your case has to be perfect to get into the Hall. It's why a guy like Kirby Puckett, who had a short career that ended due to injury is in, and why Don Mattingly, who had a short career that ended to due injury, is out. Look at their career numbers. Practically identical. But one was a Yankee.