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Pwns wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:38 am
Chizzang wrote:
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So you're actually dumb enough to believe that Trump doesn't have any advisors that want him to take advantage of crisis..?
I find you endlessly amazing Pwns

You kinda remind me of Ben Carson
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Trump, ignoring the advice of people who know better than him and acting impulsively? Nooooo. :lol:

Even after downplaying this and dragging his feet he's still saying he wants to try to restart the economy on Easter. There's a lot you can say about Trump that's not good, but a wannabe autocrat he is not. He knows he has to win an election and can't use trickery to try and extend his term. :nod:
Trump's concerns are for his own businesses (firstly) that's been made clear since day one
(secondly) His responses to all things complex are a combination of Dunning-Kruger and Bias Confirmation

Anything else you're reading into his actions beyond the two things listed above is "3D chess over analysis while watching a checkers match"
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Chizzang wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:01 am
Pwns wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:38 am


Trump, ignoring the advice of people who know better than him and acting impulsively? Nooooo. :lol:

Even after downplaying this and dragging his feet he's still saying he wants to try to restart the economy on Easter. There's a lot you can say about Trump that's not good, but a wannabe autocrat he is not. He knows he has to win an election and can't use trickery to try and extend his term. :nod:
Trump's concerns are for his own businesses (firstly) that's been made clear since day one
(secondly) His responses to all things complex are a combination of Dunning-Kruger and Bias Confirmation

Anything else you're reading into his actions beyond the two things listed above is "3D chess over analysis while watching a checkers match"
Nope, Trump's first concern has been and always will be what other people think of him - he's a narcissist of the first order. That's been clear since way before day one, it's pretty much his defining characteristic.
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GannonFan wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:08 am
Chizzang wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:01 am


Trump's concerns are for his own businesses (firstly) that's been made clear since day one
(secondly) His responses to all things complex are a combination of Dunning-Kruger and Bias Confirmation

Anything else you're reading into his actions beyond the two things listed above is "3D chess over analysis while watching a checkers match"
Nope, Trump's first concern has been and always will be what other people think of him - he's a narcissist of the first order. That's been clear since way before day one, it's pretty much his defining characteristic.
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Chizzang wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:24 am
GannonFan wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:08 am


Nope, Trump's first concern has been and always will be what other people think of him - he's a narcissist of the first order. That's been clear since way before day one, it's pretty much his defining characteristic.
Okay you win... I was wrong
If I was half the narcissist Trump was I would take comfort in your error. No worries. :rofl:
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SDHornet wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:58 am
So um...
the WHO didn't have official response on CVD-19 until January 29th because China was witholding medical data
and at no point has anybody from any health organization ever claimed that Viruses are non-communicable diseases (NCD)

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Chizzang wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:14 pm
the WHO didn't have official response on CVD-19 until January 29th because China was witholding medical data
They won't get fooled again.

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CAA Flagship wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:31 pm
Chizzang wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:14 pm
the WHO didn't have official response on CVD-19 until January 29th because China was witholding medical data
They won't get fooled again.
China told them to stfu...and they did.

Wapo article from Feb 8th:
As a mysterious virus spread through Wuhan last month, the World Health Organization had a message: China has got this.

And as the coronavirus swept across the Chinese heartland and jumped to other nations, the WHO’s director general, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, applauded the “transparency” of the Chinese response.

Even as evidence mounted that Chinese officials had silenced whistleblowers and undercounted cases, Tedros took a moment to extol the leadership of Chinese President Xi Jinping.
“We were deceived,” said Lawrence Gostin, a professor of global health law at Georgetown University who also provides technical assistance to the WHO.

“Myself and other public health experts, based on what the World Health Organization and China were saying, reassured the public that this was not serious, that we could bring this under control,” he continued.

“We were,” he added, “giving a false sense of assurance.”
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Chizzang wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:14 pm
SDHornet wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:58 am
So um...
the WHO didn't have official response on CVD-19 until January 29th because China was witholding medical data
and at no point has anybody from any health organization ever claimed that Viruses are non-communicable diseases (NCD)

:shock:
Do tweets from their official Twitter account count? :lol:




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CAA Flagship wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:14 pm
the WHO didn't have official response on CVD-19 until January 29th because China was witholding medical data
They won't get fooled again.
Who are you?

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SDHornet wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:59 pm
Chizzang wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:14 pm


So um...
the WHO didn't have official response on CVD-19 until January 29th because China was witholding medical data
and at no point has anybody from any health organization ever claimed that Viruses are non-communicable diseases (NCD)

:shock:
Do tweets from their official Twitter account count? :lol:



I must be missing the part where they say that a virus is not contagious...

:coffee:

I don't know if the WHO mislead or was mislead but they never say viruses aren't contagious
if it's classified as a virus its contagious
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Chizzang wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:52 pm
SDHornet wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:59 pm


Do tweets from their official Twitter account count? :lol:



I must be missing the part where they say that a virus is not contagious...

:coffee:

I don't know if the WHO mislead or was mislead but they never say viruses aren't contagious


:coffee:
Keep shilling for the WHO (and their Chinese overlords) chizzy, it's a good look on you. :lol:

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Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:18 am
Wow that’s a significantly different take on what I saw in the actual briefing


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Not me. And Fauci came up immediately after to assure that the timing is still day to day, week to week.

What did you see?
I didn’t see all those “assumptions” about the Easter holiday that the Independent made.

Maybe you can bookmark those parts of the press conference vid for me
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Chizzang wrote:
SDHornet wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:58 am
So um...
the WHO didn't have official response on CVD-19 until January 29th because China was witholding medical data
and at no point has anybody from any health organization ever claimed that Viruses are non-communicable diseases (NCD)

:shock:
Um

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SDHornet wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:03 pm
Chizzang wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:52 pm


I must be missing the part where they say that a virus is not contagious...

:coffee:

I don't know if the WHO mislead or was mislead but they never say viruses aren't contagious


:coffee:
Keep shilling for the WHO (and their Chinese overlords) chizzy, it's a good look on you. :lol:
I have no idea about their overlords or what their motivations are...
What I do know is - No science or Health organization would ever say a "Virus wasn't contagious"

They might say all kinds of inaccurate sh!t
But they would NOT classify I virus as an NCD
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Chizzang wrote:
SDHornet wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:59 pm
Do tweets from their official Twitter account count? :lol:



I must be missing the part where they say that a virus is not contagious...

:coffee:

I don't know if the WHO mislead or was mislead but they never say viruses aren't contagious
if it's classified as a virus its contagious
We are bickering over the minutiae of WHO’s initial response to the WuFlu

And it’s true - I don’t think they said the virus wasn’t contagious (though they may have downplayed its transmissibility)

But the bigger takeaway here, yet again, is the sway China holds over some world organizations like WHO. It is obvious that WHO wanted access and was willing to play Xi’s game to keep it

And so China was able to shape the narrative over what is actually hard science, and was able to use a highly respected global health organization as a mouthpiece

Wake up people -
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CID1990 wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:36 pm
Chizzang wrote:
I must be missing the part where they say that a virus is not contagious...

:coffee:

I don't know if the WHO mislead or was mislead but they never say viruses aren't contagious
if it's classified as a virus its contagious
We are bickering over the minutiae of WHO’s initial response to the WuFlu

And it’s true - I don’t think they said the virus wasn’t contagious (though they may have downplayed its transmissibility)

But the bigger takeaway here, yet again, is the sway China holds over some world organizations like WHO. It is obvious that WHO wanted access and was willing to play Xi’s game to keep it

And so China was able to shape the narrative over what is actually hard science, and was able to use a highly respected global health organization as a mouthpiece

Wake up people -
I don't disagree with that assessment - China is a nightmare on the world stage and no doubt manipulated the WHO
But I am going to be a stickler on global contagion and just making sh!t up about who said what

China manipulating the WHO is a concern
The WHO announcing that a Virus is an NCD is grounds for disbanding the organization
By definition a virus is a contagion
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CID1990 wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:23 pm
kalm wrote:
Not me. And Fauci came up immediately after to assure that the timing is still day to day, week to week.

What did you see?
I didn’t see all those “assumptions” about the Easter holiday that the Independent made.

Maybe you can bookmark those parts of the press conference vid for me
I watched it live. That was enough. If you’d like to go find the original clip to place him in context, feel free.
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Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:10 pm
National leadership at its finest! :lol:

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SunCoastBlueHen wrote:
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CAA Flagship wrote: They won't get fooled again.
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SunCoastBlueHen wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:28 am
SunCoastBlueHen wrote:
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I tried, Flaggy. It didn't take.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:58 am
SunCoastBlueHen wrote:
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I tried, Flaggy. It didn't take.
Your effort is noted. :thumb:
No one knows what it’s like... :ohno:
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kalm wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:01 am
CAA Flagship wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:58 am

Your effort is noted. :thumb:
No one knows what it’s like... :ohno:
How could they unless they traveled from Soho down to Brighton?

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