CIA in trouble over killing al-Qaida?

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

They don't need to tell the nation, just members of the Congress oversight committees. They are operating beyond the law, as a rogue agency. The CIA, like all executive branches, must follow the law as passed by Congress. They did not in this case.

What is next, CIA death squads for domestic "enemies"?

Drug dealers?
Tax cheats?
Swindlers?
Thieves?
Human rights violators?

If you put that list into law we wouldnt have anyone left in Congress, the President and his cabinet would be gone, no lobbists................maybe you are onto something.

All in all this is about Bush and Cheney and not right or wrong, it a witch hunt and diversionary tactic nothing more.

[BlueHen86]

You have an excuse for everything don't you? Or is the right wing wacko stuff your schtick?
Donks bad, conks good! If only it were that simple.

I can admit some of the other stuff was over the top on purpose, but in this case, I don't see what was wrong with brainstorming on ways to kill Al Qaida. Now, if it is proven that money was used without the consent of Congress, that is another matter.

After all the grandiose promises of bringing Bush and his evil henchmen to justice, the Dems have done absolutely ZERO. Why, because they know they have no leg to stand on.

Lets bet a UM/UD hat on this one. I bet NOTHING happens to Bush or Cheney in regards to this issue, because this is more overinflated fluff by the NY Times used as a diversion.

I don't know how much of this is a diversion, but I agree that nothing will happen to Bush or Cheney. I think you might see a lot of blustering from some people on the left, but I don't think there is enough political will to prosecute Bush or Cheney.

[Grizalltheway]

Missing the point by a mile, once again.

Did you see the video of the Iranian woman dying on the internet? I ask this because I did and I could only watch it once. It made my stomach turn. I have no capacity to kill a person. I am not missing the point because I am glad we have people loyal to America that can do the dirty work I have no stomach for.

As I have stated before as well. If NO money was spent, then there was no problem. They had absolutely no obligation to tell Congress they were trying to come up with plans to terminate our enemy.

Yes, they absolutely did. The CIA is not the Stasi, they aren't an organization that's allowed to operate without any sort of oversight. And why is it that director Tenent didn't even have control over this stuff? Since when does the vice-President have more power within the CIA than the director?

[SeattleGriz]

Did you see the video of the Iranian woman dying on the internet? I ask this because I did and I could only watch it once. It made my stomach turn. I have no capacity to kill a person. I am not missing the point because I am glad we have people loyal to America that can do the dirty work I have no stomach for.

As I have stated before as well. If NO money was spent, then there was no problem. They had absolutely no obligation to tell Congress they were trying to come up with plans to terminate our enemy.

Yes, they absolutely did. The CIA is not the Stasi, they aren't an organization that's allowed to operate without any sort of oversight. And why is it that director Tenent didn't even have control over this stuff? Since when does the vice-President have more power within the CIA than the director?

As far as I understand it, they did not have any obligation. If no money was spent, then it was just brainstorming. Wouldn't it make sense that the CIA would have meetings in which they asked certain people to come up with plans before they asked for the money and brought it up with Congress?

I would hope that is the way the CIA operates. They don't just throw money at ideas that have not congealed into coherent plans. Even if it was a plan, you don't get the money to perform an operation until you ask. This was in no way at the operational stage.

I don't have an answer to Tenet, but am sure more of this story will come out.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Since you dont fu*k with Dick Cheney.


Now apologize.

[Grizo406]

I wonder if Cheney still keeps in touch with Mitch Rapp, and Scot Harvath?

[houndawg]

We need to get this behind us and go forward.



Lock up Cheney for his few remaining years and call it a game.

[BlueHen86]

We need to get this behind us and go forward.



Lock up Cheney for his few remaining years and call it a game.

I say we just cut off his supply of baboon hearts.

[houndawg]

We need to get this behind us and go forward.



Lock up Cheney for his few remaining years and call it a game.

I say we just cut off his supply of baboon hearts.

Or take the wires out of the jar his brain is kept in.

[SeattleGriz]

Yes, they absolutely did. The CIA is not the Stasi, they aren't an organization that's allowed to operate without any sort of oversight. And why is it that director Tenent didn't even have control over this stuff? Since when does the vice-President have more power within the CIA than the director?

In light of new information, it seems Tenet did know what was going on.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1

As CIA director in 2004, George Tenet terminated a secret program to develop hit teams to kill al-Qaida leaders, but his successors resurrected the plan, according to former intelligence officials.

Tenet ended the program because the agency could not work out its practical details, the officials told The Associated Press. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the classified program.

Porter Goss, who replaced Tenet in 2005, restarted the program, the former officials said. By the time Michael Hayden succeeded Goss as CIA chief in 2006 the effort was again flagging because of practical challenges.

[CID1990]

Why is this bad again? I must be confused.

WASHINGTON – Congressional demands for an investigation grew on Monday over new disclosures that a secret CIA program to capture or kill al-Qaida leaders was concealed from Congress for eight years, perhaps at the behest of former Vice President Dick Cheney.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_cia_concealment


If this is a dublicate please delete.

not the act that's the problem... it's the concealment that's the problem.

Anybody who has their panties in a wad over Bushitler McCheneyburton telling the CIA not to brief Congress on an intelligence program needs to go ACTUALLY READ the National Security Act of 1947 and then come back here and try spewing more uninformed, ignorant bullcrap.

We get it. Some of you don't like Dick Cheney.

If you want to see him in trouble over things he did while in office, this isn't the issue to go after. He is covered by the law.

[AZGrizFan]

We get it. Some of you don't like Dick Cheney.

Hmmmm....I never noticed that. How could someone NOT like that kind, gentle man?

[houndawg]

Since you dont fu*k with Dick Cheney.


Now apologize.

You hear that Osama? You don't fcuk with Dick Cheney or he'll get you.