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SDHornet wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:54 pm
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:lol: Meal Team Six. I'm stealing that one. :lol: :lol: :lol:

The difference between that guy and the LARPERs is that Nance is actually trained and capable.
Trained? Sure. Capable? :lol:
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Could be coincidental or overblown but something to at least keep an eye on.

Internal resistance to Putin, UKR sabotage, false flags…all possibilities.

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Lol.

Paging SD and Seattle

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Skjellyfetti wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:32 am Lol.

Paging SD and Seattle

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Skjellyfetti wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:32 am Lol.

Paging SD and Seattle

I heard it was the 13 guys from Snake Island who died, but really didn't, and then turned into 55 guys who really surrendered. It's those guys! The Ghost of Kiev is really the Ghost of Lolita Express. He's flying in the underage kids for abuse.
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Big if true
What If I Told You Russia, Not America, Invaded Ukraine? My wildest Putin conspiracy theory: He’s been behind the war all along
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/04 ... Dfeed-part
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:55 am Big if true
What If I Told You Russia, Not America, Invaded Ukraine? My wildest Putin conspiracy theory: He’s been behind the war all along
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/04 ... Dfeed-part
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kalm wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:58 am
Skjellyfetti wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:55 am Big if true


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/04 ... Dfeed-part
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Anti-anti-Russians had already arrived at the conclusion that Ukraine’s war was an American plot to undermine Russia. “Is the purpose of the arms shipments to strengthen Ukraine’s hand in reaching a negotiated settlement to the conflict — a process from which the Biden administration and allied governments have so far held themselves aloof?” posited the leftist Branko Marcetic last week. “Or is it, as some U.S. and British officials have suggested, to turn Ukraine into an Afghanistan-like quagmire for Russia, weakening it and perhaps even triggering regime change, while sending a message to China in the process?”
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Obviously, the United States wants to weaken Russia — because Russia is threatening Ukraine. The war will go on until Russia is too weak to continue waging war in Ukraine. This is perfectly obvious as long as you understand Russia, not the United States, started the war.

The trouble is, some people cannot understand this.
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 12:45 pm
kalm wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:58 am

Paywall.
Anti-anti-Russians had already arrived at the conclusion that Ukraine’s war was an American plot to undermine Russia. “Is the purpose of the arms shipments to strengthen Ukraine’s hand in reaching a negotiated settlement to the conflict — a process from which the Biden administration and allied governments have so far held themselves aloof?” posited the leftist Branko Marcetic last week. “Or is it, as some U.S. and British officials have suggested, to turn Ukraine into an Afghanistan-like quagmire for Russia, weakening it and perhaps even triggering regime change, while sending a message to China in the process?”
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Obviously, the United States wants to weaken Russia — because Russia is threatening Ukraine. The war will go on until Russia is too weak to continue waging war in Ukraine. This is perfectly obvious as long as you understand Russia, not the United States, started the war.

The trouble is, some people cannot understand this.
Seemed clear to whom? Basically a false false flag operation?
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I love predictions.

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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 1:18 pm I love predictions.

Disguised as Moldovan military but flying Romanian flags (unless I just can't see the Moldovan coat of arms in the yellow of any of the flags)? Suspicious.
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kalm wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 1:02 pm
UNI88 wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 12:45 pm
Seemed clear to whom? Basically a false false flag operation?
It would be a TOS violation to quote the entire article so you must focus young padawan.
Obviously, the United States wants to weaken Russia — because Russia is threatening Ukraine. The war will go on until Russia is too weak to continue waging war in Ukraine. This is perfectly obvious as long as you understand Russia, not the United States, started the war.

The trouble is, some people cannot understand this.
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:02 pm
kalm wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 1:02 pm

Seemed clear to whom? Basically a false false flag operation?
It would be a TOS violation to quote the entire article so you must focus young padawan.
Obviously, the United States wants to weaken Russia — because Russia is threatening Ukraine. The war will go on until Russia is too weak to continue waging war in Ukraine. This is perfectly obvious as long as you understand Russia, not the United States, started the war.

The trouble is, some people cannot understand this.
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:01 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 1:18 pm I love predictions.

Disguised as Moldovan military but flying Romanian flags (unless I just can't see the Moldovan coat of arms in the yellow of any of the flags)? Suspicious.
I have no idea if that is actually an accurate photo, but nonetheless, if they invade, the guy was right. If not, he's full of crap.

This is why I love predictions. One way or another we'll find out.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:22 pm
UNI88 wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:01 pm
Disguised as Moldovan military but flying Romanian flags (unless I just can't see the Moldovan coat of arms in the yellow of any of the flags)? Suspicious.
I have no idea if that is actually an accurate photo, but nonetheless, if they invade, the guy was right. If not, he's full of crap.

This is why I love predictions. One way or another we'll find out.
How would a Romanian invasion of Moldovan/Transnistria be different from the Russian invasion of Ukraine?
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:34 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:22 pm

I have no idea if that is actually an accurate photo, but nonetheless, if they invade, the guy was right. If not, he's full of crap.

This is why I love predictions. One way or another we'll find out.
How would a Romanian invasion of Moldovan/Transnistria be different from the Russian invasion of Ukraine?
Good question. I'm not sure as I've been trying to read up on the history. It's got a long history and I'm just not getting it into my head.

On the surface, it shouldn't be any different, but that's why I'm trying to read up.

Apparently they are under Russia's protection, but more importantly, they supposedly have a huge weapons cache Ukraine would like to get their hands on. The US/UK stuff is not making it very far as Ukraine supply lines are cut off.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:39 pm
UNI88 wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:34 pm
How would a Romanian invasion of Moldovan/Transnistria be different from the Russian invasion of Ukraine?
Good question. I'm not sure as I've been trying to read up on the history. It's got a long history and I'm just not getting it into my head.

On the surface, it shouldn't be any different, but that's why I'm trying to read up.

Apparently they are under Russia's protection, but more importantly, they supposedly have a huge weapons cache Ukraine would like to get their hands on. The US/UK stuff is not making it very far as Ukraine supply lines are cut off.
Transnistria has Russian troops. I would argue that Moldova and its people are much more closely aligned with Romania. Given a choice between a Russia and Romania, they would choose Romania.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:01 pm Disguised as Moldovan military but flying Romanian flags (unless I just can't see the Moldovan coat of arms in the yellow of any of the flags)? Suspicious.
I have no idea if that is actually an accurate photo, but nonetheless, if they invade, the guy was right. If not, he's full of crap.

This is why I love predictions. One way or another we'll find out.
It’s not an accurate photo. It says as much in the post that its a stock photo from 2016


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cx500d wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:30 pm
SeattleGriz wrote:
I have no idea if that is actually an accurate photo, but nonetheless, if they invade, the guy was right. If not, he's full of crap.

This is why I love predictions. One way or another we'll find out.
It’s not an accurate photo. It says as much in the post that its a stock photo from 2016
I'm not buying a tweet talking about Romanian forces dressed as Moldovans that uses a stock photo from 2016. SG, please stop posting fake news from questionable sources. :D
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:50 pm
cx500d wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:30 pm
It’s not an accurate photo. It says as much in the post that its a stock photo from 2016
I'm not buying a tweet talking about Romanian forces dressed as Moldovans that uses a stock photo from 2016. SG, please stop posting fake news from questionable sources. :D
SG, come on, post more reliable stuff. :coffee:
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:35 am
UNI88 wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:50 pm

I'm not buying a tweet talking about Romanian forces dressed as Moldovans that uses a stock photo from 2016. SG, please stop posting fake news from questionable sources. :D
SG, come on, post more reliable stuff. :coffee:
:lol: Okay. Nothing but the good stuff moving forward.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:00 am
GannonFan wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:35 am

SG, come on, post more reliable stuff. :coffee:
:lol: Okay. Nothing but the good stuff moving forward.
And hey, I don't doubt there will be violence/war in Moldova and the Transnistria area - Russia already has troops there and they've already been clear that they want to partition the whole south of Ukraine and likely into the Transnistria area anyway. If they are successful in Ukraine that will be their ultimate goal. Question is do they have the fuel to get that far. :coffee:
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This is a great read on the complexities of RUS-UKR history and recent relations and struggles. It’s written from an anarchist’s point of view.
War transforms everything – we are suddenly for or against armies, revolutionaries become soldiers, coalitions monopolize politics, patriotic fervor swells, and the party of order triumphs. When the Russian army invaded Ukraine last week, Putin claimed it was in the name of “denazification,” evoking the important role “anti-fascism” plays in the ideology of the Russian state. In the following text, published in Liaisons’ first book In the Name of the People, a friend from the region offers an account of revolutionaries involved in the 2014 Maidan uprising in Ukraine, along with considerations about the particular history of Russian “anti-fascism.”
https://voidnetwork.gr/2022/03/08/a-ver ... CAn8qAU6tE
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