BREAKING!: Trump shot at PA rally. Appears ok.

[Bobcat]

Sad to see this is where this country is at, but I am not surprised. Anyone with a brain saw an assassination attempt coming a mile away. Trump has been hit with espionage wrong doing claims (see the Russia Russia Russia mega thread ), they went after his family, then resorted to lawfare on some obscure financial fraud charges (honestly don't know the specifics, didn't really care), and when all else has failed (thank you SCOTUS), they went for the jugular, literally, via gun shot.

Now we get to see the shitlibs who compared Trump to Hilter for the last 8 years wish a speedy recovery to...checks notes...a alleged Hitler incarnate. Enjoy this corner you painted yourselves into, shitlibs. You and your complicit media is 100% responsible for this.

Now onto the actual event. I don't think this was some orchestrated event specifically built for this lone wolf shooter. I think this is more of just an accumulation of gubmint incompetence (some naturally occurring, some purposely generated) to create the window of opportunity for this assassination attempt. I've read that the Trump clan was asking for more SS coverage and was denied, there was legislation to remove the SS detail as part of the lawfare fallout, then you have the DEI bullshit pushed by the PepsiCo SS head that put lesser qualified agents on Trumps detail (video footage shows a complete shitshow, I mean that fat chic agent that couldn't even holder her gun as they loaded Mean Tweets into his ride? ). Then there are the basics of not having any security on the only line of site on the stage area, the fact that they allowed the shooter to get 5 (8?) shots off before putting him down, topped off by the slow ass progression to get Trump off stage. What an absolute shitshow all around

Lastly, had Trump not turned his head at the last split second, we are having a difference conversation right now. Talk about divine intervention, wow.

Trump needs to get his inner circle in line and start preparing/operating as if he is at war. He probably needs to bring in his own security detail (private company) and make some personnel changes on his team that reflect that he is actually taking this shit seriously from this point on. He also will need to tap a VP candidate that make him assassination proof (ie no establishment shills who will willingly hand over the reigns to those currently calling the shots).

The next fourish months are going to be insane. Watch yourselves out there folks.

Great post

[Bobcat]

Trump is no more a mega narcissist than Joey Rotten Biden

The difference between the two, is Trump actually cares more about the country and it’s future than our fake President Joe Biden

TDS is way more dangerous than Donald Trump and if you don’t believe that just take a look around and focus on the horrific Biden administration

Exactly

Trump loves the USA and Biden steals from it to enrich his family

[UNI88]

Look who’s being judgy about others.

Or maybe you’re just projecting.

I’ll say it again, cries of lawfare are on the same level as comparing trump to Hitler. You’ve never cried lawfare have you?

I don't know, I'm not following you here. One is far worse than the other. What could possibly be worse than being Hitler? That's the triple-dog dare of the political mudslinging, comparing to someone who attempted world domination as well as a genocidal ethnic cleansing killing of more than 10 million people just because of who they were. That versus claiming a manipulation of the legal system to generate indictments and court cases. I don't know, in one case 10 million dead, in another one twisting some legal standards. And to top it off at least one of those cases (the Bragg one in NYC that raised the bookkeeping charge to a felony done in such a way to ensure a conviction that even NPR, at the moment of the decision, said the method to do so almost guarantees it being overturned on appeal) pretty much does look to be lawfare. But again, one seems vastly more damning than the other.

Sorry, let me explain.

After the shooting, the MAQA yahoo cult was up in arms about comments by McCaskill comparing trump to Hitler and Biden talking about a bullseye on trump being responsible for inciting violence. For example:


What they conveniently forget is that trump and other's cries about lawfare similar inflammatory rhetoric incited threats of violence against prosecutors, judges, clerks, law enforcement officers, etc. They hypocritically only condemn violence or threats of violence against people they support. Violence or threats of violence against people who oppose them is fine. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy.

Hopefully that makes sense. If my original post was too nuanced for you then it was like trying to teach quantum physics to gerbils for the MAQA yahoos on this board.

[UNI88]

Did James Hamel's rhetoric lead directly to President Trump's attempted assassination?

SG, it's time for you to denounce James Hamel and his hateful rhetoric.

[Bobcat]

Why, you support the hate and are spreading more of it now. Vance apologized and said he was wrong.

[UNI88]

Why, you support the hate and are spreading more of it now. Vance put his spine in a jar on the mantel, flushed any integrity he might have had down the toilet, apologized and said he was wrong before groveling before his deity.

FYP

Did James Hamel give biden an opportunity to apologize or did he jump to conclusions and blame his rhetoric?

[Bobcat]

Why, you support the hate and are spreading more of it now. Vance put his spine in a jar on the mantel, flushed any integrity he might have had down the toilet, apologized and said he was wrong before groveling before his deity.

FYP

Did vance give biden an opportunity to apologize or did he jump to conclusions and blame his rhetoric?

This isn't even worth talking about or bringing up Trump obviously accepted his apology and its between them and nobody else. Biden will never apologize neither will the vicious corrupt media. Its a character thing and they don't have it. Biden might tell you back when he was 3 or 4 several colored kids were bullying a kid in the alley and Joe created the entire idea of the apology before making them all do it, you know the thing. Come on man

[UNI88]

FYP

Did vance give biden an opportunity to apologize or did he jump to conclusions and blame his rhetoric?

This isn't even worth talking about or bringing up Trump obviously accepted his apology and its between them and nobody else. Biden will never apologize neither will the vicious corrupt media. Its a character thing and they don't have it. Biden might tell you back when he was 3 or 4 several colored kids were bullying a kid in the alley and Joe created the entire idea of the apology before making them all do it, you know the thing. Come on man

A trump supporter questioning anyone else's character is a curious move.

trump:
- fathered 5 children with 3 different women, including cheating on wife #1 with the woman who would become wife #2,
- bribed a porn start and a playboy model to cover up his adultery,
- has been accused of sexual assault/rape by 26+ women (not all of them can be gold diggers / attention hounds),
- been involved in thousands of civil lawsuits many of them because he didn't pay people for their work.

His moral turpitude knows no bounds.

[Bobcat]

This isn't even worth talking about or bringing up Trump obviously accepted his apology and its between them and nobody else. Biden will never apologize neither will the vicious corrupt media. Its a character thing and they don't have it. Biden might tell you back when he was 3 or 4 several colored kids were bullying a kid in the alley and Joe created the entire idea of the apology before making them all do it, you know the thing. Come on man

A trump supporter questioning anyone else's character is a curious move.

trump:
- fathered 5 children with 3 different women, including cheating on wife #1 with the woman who would become wife #2,
- bribed a porn start and a playboy model to cover up his adultery,
- has been accused of sexual assault/rape by 26+ women (not all of them can be gold diggers / attention hounds),
- been involved in thousands of civil lawsuits many of them because he didn't pay people for their work.

His moral turpitude knows no bounds.

I'm not a Trump supporter, voted for Biden and I was wrong. I'm paying for my choice and so are 180 others that lost their jobs because of Bidens wackjob environmental stance.

[CID1990]

Sad to see this is where this country is at, but I am not surprised. Anyone with a brain saw an assassination attempt coming a mile away. Trump has been hit with espionage wrong doing claims (see the Russia Russia Russia mega thread ), they went after his family, then resorted to lawfare on some obscure financial fraud charges (honestly don't know the specifics, didn't really care), and when all else has failed (thank you SCOTUS), they went for the jugular, literally, via gun shot.

Now we get to see the shitlibs who compared Trump to Hilter for the last 8 years wish a speedy recovery to...checks notes...a alleged Hitler incarnate. Enjoy this corner you painted yourselves into, shitlibs. You and your complicit media is 100% responsible for this.

Now onto the actual event. I don't think this was some orchestrated event specifically built for this lone wolf shooter. I think this is more of just an accumulation of gubmint incompetence (some naturally occurring, some purposely generated) to create the window of opportunity for this assassination attempt. I've read that the Trump clan was asking for more SS coverage and was denied, there was legislation to remove the SS detail as part of the lawfare fallout, then you have the DEI bullshit pushed by the PepsiCo SS head that put lesser qualified agents on Trumps detail (video footage shows a complete shitshow, I mean that fat chic agent that couldn't even holder her gun as they loaded Mean Tweets into his ride? ). Then there are the basics of not having any security on the only line of site on the stage area, the fact that they allowed the shooter to get 5 (8?) shots off before putting him down, topped off by the slow ass progression to get Trump off stage. What an absolute shitshow all around

Lastly, had Trump not turned his head at the last split second, we are having a difference conversation right now. Talk about divine intervention, wow.

Trump needs to get his inner circle in line and start preparing/operating as if he is at war. He probably needs to bring in his own security detail (private company) and make some personnel changes on his team that reflect that he is actually taking this shit seriously from this point on. He also will need to tap a VP candidate that make him assassination proof (ie no establishment shills who will willingly hand over the reigns to those currently calling the shots).

The next fourish months are going to be insane. Watch yourselves out there folks.

Maybe, maybe not.

150 yards is a routine shot with an AR style shooting 5.56 - without a scope you should hit a cantaloupe 10/10. The guy that could tell us if it was staged was dead so fast its like they knew what was coming, just like with Lee Harvey Oswald. I don't know if its true but many people are saying...

Well well well look who’s all Q-Anon-y now.

It ain’t an isolated thing, either.

The memes write themselves, I tell ya.


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[SDHornet]

Sad to see this is where this country is at, but I am not surprised. Anyone with a brain saw an assassination attempt coming a mile away. Trump has been hit with espionage wrong doing claims (see the Russia Russia Russia mega thread ), they went after his family, then resorted to lawfare on some obscure financial fraud charges (honestly don't know the specifics, didn't really care), and when all else has failed (thank you SCOTUS), they went for the jugular, literally, via gun shot.

Now we get to see the shitlibs who compared Trump to Hilter for the last 8 years wish a speedy recovery to...checks notes...a alleged Hitler incarnate. Enjoy this corner you painted yourselves into, shitlibs. You and your complicit media is 100% responsible for this.

Now onto the actual event. I don't think this was some orchestrated event specifically built for this lone wolf shooter. I think this is more of just an accumulation of gubmint incompetence (some naturally occurring, some purposely generated) to create the window of opportunity for this assassination attempt. I've read that the Trump clan was asking for more SS coverage and was denied, there was legislation to remove the SS detail as part of the lawfare fallout, then you have the DEI bullshit pushed by the PepsiCo SS head that put lesser qualified agents on Trumps detail (video footage shows a complete shitshow, I mean that fat chic agent that couldn't even holder her gun as they loaded Mean Tweets into his ride? ). Then there are the basics of not having any security on the only line of site on the stage area, the fact that they allowed the shooter to get 5 (8?) shots off before putting him down, topped off by the slow ass progression to get Trump off stage. What an absolute shitshow all around

Lastly, had Trump not turned his head at the last split second, we are having a difference conversation right now. Talk about divine intervention, wow.

Trump needs to get his inner circle in line and start preparing/operating as if he is at war. He probably needs to bring in his own security detail (private company) and make some personnel changes on his team that reflect that he is actually taking this shit seriously from this point on. He also will need to tap a VP candidate that make him assassination proof (ie no establishment shills who will willingly hand over the reigns to those currently calling the shots).

The next fourish months are going to be insane. Watch yourselves out there folks.

Crying lawfare is on the same level as comparing trump to Hitler.

Not really. Person after person in or near Trumps circle was targeted (some rightly so, others not so much) with charges of some sort. Don't get me wrong, all of these shit bags on the Hill have no doubt done something worthy of being dragged into court, but doesn't take a genius to see that something is up when only one side of the aisle is facing charges.

[SDHornet]

Hey! Hitler had to start somewhere and it was probably easier back then.

I know you hate those comparisons but perhaps you should blame the guy who willfully sounds like Hitler at times.

How about, Hitler Lite?

Ugghhhh. Kalmie, you're proof that the downgrade in history education in this country long preceded the millennials and the newer generations.

We've been lucky that Trump, for all his bombast, is, at his heart, a mega-narcissist. He's the furthest thing from a idealogue as you can possibly get, and I'm sure he has no idea what an idealogue is nor could he spell it. I only hate these comparisons because the comparisons couldn't be any more wrong. Hitler had ideas and visions - absolutely perverted and pretty evil, possibly the worst of all time, but he had them. Trump likes Trump, that's about as far as he gets. I'd really dread the day that we get a Trump personality that mixes that narcissism with a true political agenda.

Just off the top of my head, a better comparison for Trump with a historical figure, if you wanted to cast him into a historical figure, could be a Tito, but even then the military background and the extensive internal secret police would be big outliers that don't compare. But that would be a far more accurate reach than Hitler would be. And considering most Americans have no clue who Tito was, a far less incendiary one at that, even though still pretty damning.

Regardless, none of those historical figures really apply because none had the power of the American system of government around them. No one, not a Trump certainly, or any of those other figures could topple what we have in 4 or 8 years in office simply because we have a system that works, and we have a population that protects it. Democrat or Republican, whacko-left or MAGA, this system works. That's not blind optimism, that's 237 years of government under this Constitution as evidence.

Excellent post.

[SDHornet]

5 Things

1. Liberals are anti gun until they need one to censor free speech
2. This was a DEI hire failure
3. Multiple 3 letter agencies were in on this and allowed that guy to be in the building for over 2 mins while Trump was talking. They waited for him to shoot.
4. Dick Cheney is involved in this
5, If you want to get the job done you don't hire Ree Tardy Oswalt

This is clear now. My assertion (hope) was that it was just massive compounding of gubmint incompetence. There is a clear timeline (with video evidence to support the timeline) that this guy was allowed to get into position and take a shot(s).

[SDHornet]

Why, you support the hate and are spreading more of it now. Vance put his spine in a jar on the mantel, flushed any integrity he might have had down the toilet, apologized and said he was wrong before groveling before his deity.

FYP

Did vance give biden an opportunity to apologize or did he jump to conclusions and blame his rhetoric?

Vance owned up to being wrong about Trump during his Senate campaign/debate in '22. Lot's of people have changed their tune on Trump since '16.

My thoughts on the Vance pick is that he is the best (i.e. least tied to the establishment) than the other names that made the final cut. He does have an interesting background (grew up in poverty, Marine vet, Ivy Law school, venture capitalist, married a Brown person) and going with someone from the Rust Belt should help given the swing states in that region.

[SDHornet]

This isn't even worth talking about or bringing up Trump obviously accepted his apology and its between them and nobody else. Biden will never apologize neither will the vicious corrupt media. Its a character thing and they don't have it. Biden might tell you back when he was 3 or 4 several colored kids were bullying a kid in the alley and Joe created the entire idea of the apology before making them all do it, you know the thing. Come on man

A trump supporter questioning anyone else's character is a curious move.

trump:
- fathered 5 children with 3 different women, including cheating on wife #1 with the woman who would become wife #2,
- bribed a porn start and a playboy model to cover up his adultery,
- has been accused of sexual assault/rape by 26+ women (not all of them can be gold diggers / attention hounds),
- been involved in thousands of civil lawsuits many of them because he didn't pay people for their work.

His moral turpitude knows no bounds.

So, should we point out all the shitty-ness within Biden's family?

[UNI88]

A trump supporter questioning anyone else's character is a curious move.

trump:
- fathered 5 children with 3 different women, including cheating on wife #1 with the woman who would become wife #2,
- bribed a porn start and a playboy model to cover up his adultery,
- has been accused of sexual assault/rape by 26+ women (not all of them can be gold diggers / attention hounds),
- been involved in thousands of civil lawsuits many of them because he didn't pay people for their work.

His moral turpitude knows no bounds.

So, should we point out all the shitty-ness within Biden's family?

A trump supporter questioning anyone else's character is a curious move.

trump:
- fathered 5 children with 3 different women, including cheating on wife #1 with the woman who would become wife #2,
- bribed a porn start and a playboy model to cover up his adultery,
- has been accused of sexual assault/rape by 26+ women (not all of them can be gold diggers / attention hounds),
- been involved in thousands of civil lawsuits many of them because he didn't pay people for their work.

His moral turpitude knows no bounds.

So, should we point out all the shitty-ness within Biden's family?

Go ahead. They’re both despicable human beings. That’s why I won’t vote for either.

The difference here is that kalm, Houndy, etc. know biden is a rotten person but believe he’s better than trump. Some that used to post (AZ for example) thought and probably still think the opposite (that trump while despicable is better than biden). It’s the gullible fools who have joined the cult and bought trump’s con that he’s innocent and fighting the deep state for them that deserve mockery. Where do you fall?


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[Caribbean Hen]

So, should we point out all the shitty-ness within Biden's family?

So, should we point out all the shitty-ness within Biden's family?

Go ahead. They’re both despicable human beings. That’s why I won’t vote for either.

The difference here is that kalm, Houndy, etc. know biden is a rotten person but believe he’s better than trump. Some that used to post (AZ for example) thought and probably still think the opposite (that trump while despicable is better than biden). It’s the gullible fools who have joined the cult and bought trump’s con that he’s innocent and fighting the deep state for them that deserve mockery. Where do you fall?


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Joey Rotten is a thing now

[houndawg]

Maybe, maybe not.

150 yards is a routine shot with an AR style shooting 5.56 - without a scope you should hit a cantaloupe 10/10. The guy that could tell us if it was staged was dead so fast its like they knew what was coming, just like with Lee Harvey Oswald. I don't know if its true but many people are saying...

Sure, if you are:
-trained in fundamentals of marksmanship
-are properly zeroed
-are calm/heart not racing/not breathing heavy
-can take your time
-have a comfortable shooting platform
-the cantelope isn’t moving
-don’t have to worry about being shot back at

...unless the whole thing was staged.


This may come down to the definition of what is an official act....

[houndawg]

Maybe, maybe not.

150 yards is a routine shot with an AR style shooting 5.56 - without a scope you should hit a cantaloupe 10/10. The guy that could tell us if it was staged was dead so fast its like they knew what was coming, just like with Lee Harvey Oswald. I don't know if its true but many people are saying...

Well well well look who’s all Q-Anon-y now.

It ain’t an isolated thing, either.

The memes write themselves, I tell ya.


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Its a great position, you can say anything! But the big fun will be watching the metamorphisis of the Q-Anon crowd into the Deep State.

[CID1990]

Well well well look who’s all Q-Anon-y now.

It ain’t an isolated thing, either.

The memes write themselves, I tell ya.


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Its a great position, you can say anything! But the big fun will be watching the metamorphisis of the Q-Anon crowd into the Deep State.

You’ll need some work before you’re ready for the big leagues. For now, you’re Dim-Anon


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[Bobcat]

Dim-Anon on a scale of 1-10 (from dimmest to brightest) dawg would be .3

[GannonFan]

I don't really know much about the head of the Secret Service, but she's bound to be in a whirlwind of trouble when it comes time to testify in front of the committee doing the investigation. Even on an interview with ABC (I only have the CNN link here), she actually said they didn't have anyone on the roof where the shooter shot from because...

“That building in particular has a sloped roof at it’s highest point and so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof and so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building from the inside,” Cheatle said.

That makes no sense. The two sniper teams that were behind the stage and from which they did take out the shooter, were vastly more sloped than the one the shooter shot from. How do you put sniper teams on very sloped roofs, but then make the decision to not put folks up on another building with a less severe slope? If she answers like that in an actual hearing she might not be employed by the time she leaves the room.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.html

[UNI88]

Its a great position, you can say anything! But the big fun will be watching the metamorphisis of the Q-Anon crowd into the Deep State.

You’ll need some work before you’re ready for the big leagues. For now, you’re Dim-Anon

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Is Q-Anon the big leagues? That's a really low bar.

[Bobcat]

I don't really know much about the head of the Secret Service, but she's bound to be in a whirlwind of trouble when it comes time to testify in front of the committee doing the investigation. Even on an interview with ABC (I only have the CNN link here), she actually said they didn't have anyone on the roof where the shooter shot from because...

“That building in particular has a sloped roof at it’s highest point and so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof and so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building from the inside,” Cheatle said.

That makes no sense. The two sniper teams that were behind the stage and from which they did take out the shooter, were vastly more sloped than the one the shooter shot from. How do you put sniper teams on very sloped roofs, but then make the decision to not put folks up on another building with a less severe slope? If she answers like that in an actual hearing she might not be employed by the time she leaves the room.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.html

She's a DEI hire she's obviously more qualified than you are, who are you to question this? What your security background?

Its obvious to everyone on both sides that this roof was so steep and treacherous that only a super athletic 20 year old nerd could navigate it.


You know these guys took off their OSHA approved fall protection for this photo right?

[Bobcat]

Another kook lefty gets shot at the RNC just now.

You keep sending them and we will stack bodies while we turn down the temperature.