BREAKING!: Trump shot at PA rally. Appears ok.

[BDKJMU]

Of course. As Cid said, leftists can’t shoot. 130 yds is practically point blank range with a (assuming scoped) rifle.
And the dumbass leftist tried to go for a head shot instead of center mass.

that was an expensive miss, it would have been worth millions as a meme

Saw think it was NBC article claim some google earth analysis say spot of shooter on roofpeak to podium 148 yds.

[SDHornet]

that was an expensive miss, it would have been worth millions as a meme

Saw think it was NBC article claim some google earth analysis say spot of shooter on roofpeak to podium 148 yds.

150 yards has been making the rounds on Twitter.

[BDKJMU]

Trump just won the election if they don’t kill him first

Eh, MAGA peeps shouldn't get too cocky. The swing states are still "fortified". Trump will need to win by a large enough margin to beat the cheat. Those 2 am ballot dumps are a bitch.

Yep. Need to make the margin Too Big To Rig. Not concerned about the conk gov swing states (ex GA has had 2022 voting reform that the left threw a coniption over; NV). Its the donk led ones: PA, MI, WI that I am concerned about (to a lesser extent AZ & NC).

[BDKJMU]

Saw think it was NBC article claim some google earth analysis say spot of shooter on roofpeak to podium 148 yds.

150 yards has been making the rounds on Twitter.

That sounds about right.

[BDKJMU]

Sad to see this is where this country is at, but I am not surprised. Anyone with a brain saw an assassination attempt coming a mile away. Trump has been hit with espionage wrong doing claims (see the Russia Russia Russia mega thread ), they went after his family, then resorted to lawfare on some obscure financial fraud charges (honestly don't know the specifics, didn't really care), and when all else has failed (thank you SCOTUS), they went for the jugular, literally, via gun shot.

Now we get to see the shitlibs who compared Trump to Hilter for the last 8 years wish a speedy recovery to...checks notes...a alleged Hitler incarnate. Enjoy this corner you painted yourselves into, shitlibs. You and your complicit media is 100% responsible for this.

Now onto the actual event. I don't think this was some orchestrated event specifically built for this lone wolf shooter. I think this is more of just an accumulation of gubmint incompetence (some naturally occurring, some purposely generated) to create the window of opportunity for this assassination attempt.I've read that the Trump clan was asking for more SS coverage and was denied, there was legislation to remove the SS detail as part of the lawfare fallout, then you have the DEI bullshit pushed by the PepsiCo SS head that put lesser qualified agents on Trumps detail (video footage shows a complete shitshow, I mean that fat chic agent that couldn't even holder her gun as they loaded Mean Tweets into his ride? ). Then there are the basics of not having any security on the only line of site on the stage area, the fact that they allowed the shooter to get 5 (8?) shots off before putting him down, topped off by the slow ass progression to get Trump off stage. What an absolute shitshow all around

Lastly, had Trump not turned his head at the last split second, we are having a difference conversation right now. Talk about divine intervention, wow.

Trump needs to get his inner circle in line and start preparing/operating as if he is at war. He probably needs to bring in his own security detail (private company) and make some personnel changes on his team that reflect that he is actually taking this shit seriously from this point on. He also will need to tap a VP candidate that make him assassination proof (ie no establishment shills who will willingly hand over the reigns to those currently calling the shots).

The next fourish months are going to be insane. Watch yourselves out there folks.

Agreed.

[SDHornet]

A bit of brevity on this issue:

[BDKJMU]

Now the SS is trying to throw the locals under the bus. (Guglielmi is an SS spokesman):

The rooftop where a gunman shot at former President Donald Trump during a campaign rally was identified by the U.S. Secret Service as a potential vulnerability in the days before the event, two sources familiar with the agency’s operations told NBC News….

….The Secret Service had designated that rooftop under the jurisdiction of local law enforcement, a common practice when securing outdoor rallies, Guglielmi said.

Butler County District Attorney Richard Goldinger said his office maintains an Emergency Services Unit team that deployed four sniper teams and four “quick response teams” at the rally. But he said the Secret Service agents were in charge of security outside of the venue.

“They had meetings in the week prior. The Secret Service ran the show. They were the ones who designated who did what,” Goldinger said. “In the command hierarchy, they were top, they were No. 1.”

Goldinger said the commander of the Emergency Services Unit told him they were not responsible for securing areas outside of the venue. “To me, the whole thing is under the jurisdiction of the Secret Service. And they will delineate from there.”

The former senior Secret Service agent also said that even if local law enforcement “did drop the ball,” it’s still the agency’s responsibility “to ensure that they are following through either beforehand or in the moment.”

…The clamor over the Secret Service’s biggest failure since the shooting of President Ronald Reagan in 1981 is coming from both political parties, from former agents and from security experts….

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... rcna161783

[BDKJMU]

Wow (and I’m not a thumper). Back in April:
https://x.com/behizytweets/status/18123 ... IPU9__Q3qg

[UNI88]

Sad to see this is where this country is at, but I am not surprised. Anyone with a brain saw an assassination attempt coming a mile away. Trump has been hit with espionage wrong doing claims (see the Russia Russia Russia mega thread ), they went after his family, then resorted to lawfare on some obscure financial fraud charges (honestly don't know the specifics, didn't really care), and when all else has failed (thank you SCOTUS), they went for the jugular, literally, via gun shot.

Now we get to see the shitlibs who compared Trump to Hilter for the last 8 years wish a speedy recovery to...checks notes...a alleged Hitler incarnate. Enjoy this corner you painted yourselves into, shitlibs. You and your complicit media is 100% responsible for this.

Now onto the actual event. I don't think this was some orchestrated event specifically built for this lone wolf shooter. I think this is more of just an accumulation of gubmint incompetence (some naturally occurring, some purposely generated) to create the window of opportunity for this assassination attempt. I've read that the Trump clan was asking for more SS coverage and was denied, there was legislation to remove the SS detail as part of the lawfare fallout, then you have the DEI bullshit pushed by the PepsiCo SS head that put lesser qualified agents on Trumps detail (video footage shows a complete shitshow, I mean that fat chic agent that couldn't even holder her gun as they loaded Mean Tweets into his ride? ). Then there are the basics of not having any security on the only line of site on the stage area, the fact that they allowed the shooter to get 5 (8?) shots off before putting him down, topped off by the slow ass progression to get Trump off stage. What an absolute shitshow all around

Lastly, had Trump not turned his head at the last split second, we are having a difference conversation right now. Talk about divine intervention, wow.

Trump needs to get his inner circle in line and start preparing/operating as if he is at war. He probably needs to bring in his own security detail (private company) and make some personnel changes on his team that reflect that he is actually taking this shit seriously from this point on. He also will need to tap a VP candidate that make him assassination proof (ie no establishment shills who will willingly hand over the reigns to those currently calling the shots).

The next fourish months are going to be insane. Watch yourselves out there folks.

Crying lawfare is on the same level as comparing trump to Hitler.

[SeattleGriz]

Disgusting. This is the sort of flippant bullshit that caused this to happen. Despicable.

The irony of a trump supporter blaming rhetoric that could lead to violence or threats of violence is rich indeed.

Did you speak up against trump's words that were meant to intimidate judges, courtroom staff and witnesses during his trials? Words that led to the imposition of gag orders necessary to protect individuals trying to do their jobs as well as our system of justice? Or did you approve his words and complain about the attack on his 1st Amendment rights and election interference?

Have you condemned the violence that has been done in his name?

Reviewing police reports and court records, ABC News found that in at least 12 cases perpetrators hailed Trump in the midst or immediate aftermath of physically assaulting innocent victims. In another 18 cases, perpetrators cheered or defended Trump while taunting or threatening others. And in another 10 cases, Trump and his rhetoric were cited in court to explain a defendant's violent or threatening behavior.
...
Thirteen cases identified by ABC News involved violent or threatening acts perpetrated in defiance of Trump, with many of them targeting Trump's allies in Congress. But the vast majority of the cases – 41 of the 54 – reflect someone echoing presidential rhetoric, not protesting it.

ABC News could not find a single criminal case filed in federal or state court where an act of violence or threat was made in the name of President Barack Obama or President George W. Bush.

The 54 cases identified by ABC News are remarkable in that a link to the president is captured in court documents and police statements, under the penalty of perjury or contempt. These links are not speculative – they are documented in official records. And in the majority of cases identified by ABC News, it was perpetrators themselves who invoked the president in connection with their case, not anyone else.

If trump deserves no blame for the violence or threats of violence that his words incite, why do I? Why does McCaskill? Why does blame only fall on those that oppose the MAQA yahoo cult?

I sure hope they counted Jussie Smollet in their research. "This is MAGA country". Yes, liars never lie.

This is a huge red herring. Libs are hateful, vengeful and stupid. You keep defending them. Not a good look.

[houndawg]

Sad to see this is where this country is at, but I am not surprised. Anyone with a brain saw an assassination attempt coming a mile away. Trump has been hit with espionage wrong doing claims (see the Russia Russia Russia mega thread ), they went after his family, then resorted to lawfare on some obscure financial fraud charges (honestly don't know the specifics, didn't really care), and when all else has failed (thank you SCOTUS), they went for the jugular, literally, via gun shot.

Now we get to see the shitlibs who compared Trump to Hilter for the last 8 years wish a speedy recovery to...checks notes...a alleged Hitler incarnate. Enjoy this corner you painted yourselves into, shitlibs. You and your complicit media is 100% responsible for this.

Now onto the actual event. I don't think this was some orchestrated event specifically built for this lone wolf shooter. I think this is more of just an accumulation of gubmint incompetence (some naturally occurring, some purposely generated) to create the window of opportunity for this assassination attempt. I've read that the Trump clan was asking for more SS coverage and was denied, there was legislation to remove the SS detail as part of the lawfare fallout, then you have the DEI bullshit pushed by the PepsiCo SS head that put lesser qualified agents on Trumps detail (video footage shows a complete shitshow, I mean that fat chic agent that couldn't even holder her gun as they loaded Mean Tweets into his ride? ). Then there are the basics of not having any security on the only line of site on the stage area, the fact that they allowed the shooter to get 5 (8?) shots off before putting him down, topped off by the slow ass progression to get Trump off stage. What an absolute shitshow all around

Lastly, had Trump not turned his head at the last split second, we are having a difference conversation right now. Talk about divine intervention, wow.

Trump needs to get his inner circle in line and start preparing/operating as if he is at war. He probably needs to bring in his own security detail (private company) and make some personnel changes on his team that reflect that he is actually taking this shit seriously from this point on. He also will need to tap a VP candidate that make him assassination proof (ie no establishment shills who will willingly hand over the reigns to those currently calling the shots).

The next fourish months are going to be insane. Watch yourselves out there folks.

Maybe, maybe not.

150 yards is a routine shot with an AR style shooting 5.56 - without a scope you should hit a cantaloupe 10/10. The guy that could tell us if it was staged was dead so fast its like they knew what was coming, just like with Lee Harvey Oswald. I don't know if its true but many people are saying...

[BDKJMU]

Sad to see this is where this country is at, but I am not surprised. Anyone with a brain saw an assassination attempt coming a mile away. Trump has been hit with espionage wrong doing claims (see the Russia Russia Russia mega thread ), they went after his family, then resorted to lawfare on some obscure financial fraud charges (honestly don't know the specifics, didn't really care), and when all else has failed (thank you SCOTUS), they went for the jugular, literally, via gun shot.

Now we get to see the shitlibs who compared Trump to Hilter for the last 8 years wish a speedy recovery to...checks notes...a alleged Hitler incarnate. Enjoy this corner you painted yourselves into, shitlibs. You and your complicit media is 100% responsible for this.

Now onto the actual event. I don't think this was some orchestrated event specifically built for this lone wolf shooter. I think this is more of just an accumulation of gubmint incompetence (some naturally occurring, some purposely generated) to create the window of opportunity for this assassination attempt. I've read that the Trump clan was asking for more SS coverage and was denied, there was legislation to remove the SS detail as part of the lawfare fallout, then you have the DEI bullshit pushed by the PepsiCo SS head that put lesser qualified agents on Trumps detail (video footage shows a complete shitshow, I mean that fat chic agent that couldn't even holder her gun as they loaded Mean Tweets into his ride? ). Then there are the basics of not having any security on the only line of site on the stage area, the fact that they allowed the shooter to get 5 (8?) shots off before putting him down, topped off by the slow ass progression to get Trump off stage. What an absolute shitshow all around

Lastly, had Trump not turned his head at the last split second, we are having a difference conversation right now. Talk about divine intervention, wow.

Trump needs to get his inner circle in line and start preparing/operating as if he is at war. He probably needs to bring in his own security detail (private company) and make some personnel changes on his team that reflect that he is actually taking this shit seriously from this point on. He also will need to tap a VP candidate that make him assassination proof (ie no establishment shills who will willingly hand over the reigns to those currently calling the shots).

The next fourish months are going to be insane. Watch yourselves out there folks.

Maybe, maybe not.

150 yards is a routine shot with an AR style shooting 5.56 - without a scope you should hit a cantaloupe 10/10. The guy that could tell us if it was staged was dead so fast its like they knew what was coming, just like with Lee Harvey Oswald. I don't know if its true but many people are saying...

Sure, if you are:
-trained in fundamentals of marksmanship
-are properly zeroed
-are calm/heart not racing/not breathing heavy
-can take your time
-have a comfortable shooting platform
-the cantelope isn’t moving
-don’t have to worry about being shot back at

[UNI88]

The irony of a trump supporter blaming rhetoric that could lead to violence or threats of violence is rich indeed.

Did you speak up against trump's words that were meant to intimidate judges, courtroom staff and witnesses during his trials? Words that led to the imposition of gag orders necessary to protect individuals trying to do their jobs as well as our system of justice? Or did you approve his words and complain about the attack on his 1st Amendment rights and election interference?

Have you condemned the violence that has been done in his name?



If trump deserves no blame for the violence or threats of violence that his words incite, why do I? Why does McCaskill? Why does blame only fall on those that oppose the MAQA yahoo cult?

I sure hope they counted Jussie Smollet in their research. "This is MAGA country". Yes, liars never lie.

This is a huge red herring. Libs are hateful, vengeful and stupid. You keep defending them. Not a good look.

Look who’s being judgy about others.

Or maybe you’re just projecting.

I’ll say it again, cries of lawfare are on the same level as comparing trump to Hitler. You’ve never cried lawfare have you?

[kalm]

She apparently has a few followers on this forum.

[GannonFan]

I sure hope they counted Jussie Smollet in their research. "This is MAGA country". Yes, liars never lie.

This is a huge red herring. Libs are hateful, vengeful and stupid. You keep defending them. Not a good look.

Look who’s being judgy about others.

Or maybe you’re just projecting.

I’ll say it again, cries of lawfare are on the same level as comparing trump to Hitler. You’ve never cried lawfare have you?

I don't know, I'm not following you here. One is far worse than the other. What could possibly be worse than being Hitler? That's the triple-dog dare of the political mudslinging, comparing to someone who attempted world domination as well as a genocidal ethnic cleansing killing of more than 10 million people just because of who they were. That versus claiming a manipulation of the legal system to generate indictments and court cases. I don't know, in one case 10 million dead, in another one twisting some legal standards. And to top it off at least one of those cases (the Bragg one in NYC that raised the bookkeeping charge to a felony done in such a way to ensure a conviction that even NPR, at the moment of the decision, said the method to do so almost guarantees it being overturned on appeal) pretty much does look to be lawfare. But again, one seems vastly more damning than the other.

[GannonFan]

She apparently has a few followers on this forum.

Indeed, she's nuts and folks that think like her are nuts too.

[kalm]

Look who’s being judgy about others.

Or maybe you’re just projecting.

I’ll say it again, cries of lawfare are on the same level as comparing trump to Hitler. You’ve never cried lawfare have you?

I don't know, I'm not following you here. One is far worse than the other. What could possibly be worse than being Hitler? That's the triple-dog dare of the political mudslinging, comparing to someone who attempted world domination as well as a genocidal ethnic cleansing killing of more than 10 million people just because of who they were. That versus claiming a manipulation of the legal system to generate indictments and court cases. I don't know, in one case 10 million dead, in another one twisting some legal standards. And to top it off at least one of those cases (the Bragg one in NYC that raised the bookkeeping charge to a felony done in such a way to ensure a conviction that even NPR, at the moment of the decision, said the method to do so almost guarantees it being overturned on appeal) pretty much does look to be lawfare. But again, one seems vastly more damning than the other.

Hey! Hitler had to start somewhere and it was probably easier back then.

I know you hate those comparisons but perhaps you should blame the guy who willfully sounds like Hitler at times.

How about, Hitler Lite?

[GannonFan]

I don't know, I'm not following you here. One is far worse than the other. What could possibly be worse than being Hitler? That's the triple-dog dare of the political mudslinging, comparing to someone who attempted world domination as well as a genocidal ethnic cleansing killing of more than 10 million people just because of who they were. That versus claiming a manipulation of the legal system to generate indictments and court cases. I don't know, in one case 10 million dead, in another one twisting some legal standards. And to top it off at least one of those cases (the Bragg one in NYC that raised the bookkeeping charge to a felony done in such a way to ensure a conviction that even NPR, at the moment of the decision, said the method to do so almost guarantees it being overturned on appeal) pretty much does look to be lawfare. But again, one seems vastly more damning than the other.

Hey! Hitler had to start somewhere and it was probably easier back then.

I know you hate those comparisons but perhaps you should blame the guy who willfully sounds like Hitler at times.

How about, Hitler Lite?

Ugghhhh. Kalmie, you're proof that the downgrade in history education in this country long preceded the millennials and the newer generations.

We've been lucky that Trump, for all his bombast, is, at his heart, a mega-narcissist. He's the furthest thing from a idealogue as you can possibly get, and I'm sure he has no idea what an idealogue is nor could he spell it. I only hate these comparisons because the comparisons couldn't be any more wrong. Hitler had ideas and visions - absolutely perverted and pretty evil, possibly the worst of all time, but he had them. Trump likes Trump, that's about as far as he gets. I'd really dread the day that we get a Trump personality that mixes that narcissism with a true political agenda.

Just off the top of my head, a better comparison for Trump with a historical figure, if you wanted to cast him into a historical figure, could be a Tito, but even then the military background and the extensive internal secret police would be big outliers that don't compare. But that would be a far more accurate reach than Hitler would be. And considering most Americans have no clue who Tito was, a far less incendiary one at that, even though still pretty damning.

Regardless, none of those historical figures really apply because none had the power of the American system of government around them. No one, not a Trump certainly, or any of those other figures could topple what we have in 4 or 8 years in office simply because we have a system that works, and we have a population that protects it. Democrat or Republican, whacko-left or MAGA, this system works. That's not blind optimism, that's 237 years of government under this Constitution as evidence.

[Caribbean Hen]

Trump is no more a mega narcissist than Joey Rotten Biden

The difference between the two, is Trump actually cares more about the country and it’s future than our fake President Joe Biden

TDS is way more dangerous than Donald Trump and if you don’t believe that just take a look around and focus on the horrific Biden administration

[SeattleGriz]

I sure hope they counted Jussie Smollet in their research. "This is MAGA country". Yes, liars never lie.

This is a huge red herring. Libs are hateful, vengeful and stupid. You keep defending them. Not a good look.

Look who’s being judgy about others.

Or maybe you’re just projecting.

I’ll say it again, cries of lawfare are on the same level as comparing trump to Hitler. You’ve never cried lawfare have you?

You can't even stay on topic. First it was a 2020 article, now you're throwing out lawfare claims.

None of anything you've put out there comes close to assassination attempts.

You keep trying to say, "we", when this is all on Liberals and you for trying to lessen an appalling act.

Be better.

[kalm]

Hey! Hitler had to start somewhere and it was probably easier back then.

I know you hate those comparisons but perhaps you should blame the guy who willfully sounds like Hitler at times.

How about, Hitler Lite?

Ugghhhh. Kalmie, you're proof that the downgrade in history education in this country long preceded the millennials and the newer generations.

We've been lucky that Trump, for all his bombast, is, at his heart, a mega-narcissist. He's the furthest thing from a idealogue as you can possibly get, and I'm sure he has no idea what an idealogue is nor could he spell it. I only hate these comparisons because the comparisons couldn't be any more wrong. Hitler had ideas and visions - absolutely perverted and pretty evil, possibly the worst of all time, but he had them. Trump likes Trump, that's about as far as he gets. I'd really dread the day that we get a Trump personality that mixes that narcissism with a true political agenda.

Just off the top of my head, a better comparison for Trump with a historical figure, if you wanted to cast him into a historical figure, could be a Tito, but even then the military background and the extensive internal secret police would be big outliers that don't compare. But that would be a far more accurate reach than Hitler would be. And considering most Americans have no clue who Tito was, a far less incendiary one at that, even though still pretty damning.

Regardless, none of those historical figures really apply because none had the power of the American system of government around them. No one, not a Trump certainly, or any of those other figures could topple what we have in 4 or 8 years in office simply because we have a system that works, and we have a population that protects it. Democrat or Republican, whacko-left or MAGA, this system works. That's not blind optimism, that's 237 years of government under this Constitution as evidence.

"history never repeats itself but it rhymes"

- Mark Twain

[Bobcat]

This ^

You built half of this with your rhetoric.

[Caribbean Hen]

If I had any say, we should erect a statue of the fireman that died trying to protect his family from the assassin’s bullets .. guy is a real hero

Would also be kind of a contrast to bad father gang Bangor George Floyd, a hero to the left

[Bobcat]

No that's literally what some leftists on Twitter are saying.

And if the situation were reversed MAQA yahoos would be saying it.


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No we wouldn't, the same way we didn't burn the city down.

[Bobcat]

5 Things

1. Liberals are anti gun until they need one to censor free speech
2. This was a DEI hire failure
3. Multiple 3 letter agencies were in on this and allowed that guy to be in the building for over 2 mins while Trump was talking. They waited for him to shoot.
4. Dick Cheney is involved in this
5, If you want to get the job done you don't hire Ree Tardy Oswalt