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Re: Happy Birthday, Charles Darwin

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Grizalltheway wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:
Sorry, didn't mean to imply we went from soup to a big bag of soup in skin overnight.
No worries. I'm just as mystified as anyone else as to how this whole cosmic mess came to be (in fact, it hurts my poor brain to think about it :yikes: ), but I think evolution is the best theory out there regarding how life on Earth works.
It's the only one with any evidence... :coffee:
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SeattleGriz wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:Man didn't evolve from primordial soup. It's a gradual process that's taken billions of years. A billion years is a loooooooong time, and the planet has been around for 4.5 billion.
So where did it all start?
Adam's nutsack...



















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Chizzang wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
No worries. I'm just as mystified as anyone else as to how this whole cosmic mess came to be (in fact, it hurts my poor brain to think about it :yikes: ), but I think evolution is the best theory out there regarding how life on Earth works.
It's the only one with any evidence... :coffee:
...and huge holes as well.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
It's the only one with any evidence... :coffee:
...and huge holes as well.
It's not the only theory regarding how life on earth works that has holes in it
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youngterrier wrote:
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...and huge holes as well.
It's not the only theory regarding how life on earth works that has holes in it
Wasn't saying that. My point, as is the case in all debate about Evolution, is that it isn't nearly as solid as many present it to be. Not saying I disagree with my good man Cleets, just that academia have been shown to get very nasty if their fellow peers dissent from the global warm, er evolutionary beliefs.
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Only five thousand short years ago.. now, what can you tithe?
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Wedgebuster wrote:Image
Only five thousand short years ago.. now, what can you tithe?
:nod:
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Is that Mitochondrial Eve? Can't be, for she was around well before Y Chromosomal Adam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Adam

Nevermind that when I was in college, this was supposed to be the proof we were all looking for. It was suppose to show exactly when our progenitors lived, but it actually worked out they lived a small 50,000-80,000 years apart.
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Re: Happy Birthday, Charles Darwin

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SeattleGriz wrote:
youngterrier wrote: It's not the only theory regarding how life on earth works that has holes in it
Wasn't saying that. My point, as is the case in all debate about Evolution, is that it isn't nearly as solid as many present it to be. Not saying I disagree with my good man Cleets, just that academia have been shown to get very nasty if their fellow peers dissent from the global warm, er evolutionary beliefs.
My point was:
It's the only theory with any (any) evidence to support it... :nod:
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Chizzang wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:
Wasn't saying that. My point, as is the case in all debate about Evolution, is that it isn't nearly as solid as many present it to be. Not saying I disagree with my good man Cleets, just that academia have been shown to get very nasty if their fellow peers dissent from the global warm, er evolutionary beliefs.
My point was:
It's the only theory with any (any) evidence to support it... :nod:
Agreed. :thumb:

Most on here know my personal beliefs in Intelligent Design include the fact I don't believe ID will ever be able to prove itself, just poke holes in Evolution. It's a crappy mode of attack, but as stated, academia are not the most accepting of any other theories when Evolution is concerned, so they aren't left with much.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
It's the only one with any evidence... :coffee:
...and huge holes as well.
Yes, it has holes but the number of holes is far fewer than in the past and it will have fewer holes in the future. The amount of evidence in support of evolution has only grown over time.
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CitadelGrad wrote:
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...and huge holes as well.
Yes, it has holes but the number of holes is far fewer than in the past and it will have fewer holes in the future. The amount of evidence in support of evolution has only grown over time.
I would have to respectfully disagree with you. It is, in my opinion, that the scientific community is finally starting to realize that Evolution has more holes in it now than in the past, due to the advances in science. They now have the data and knowledge to realize some of the assumptions taken before the science could prove or disprove, were just that, assumptions.

Taken from the article quoted earlier:
Eighty years after "The Origin of Species," evolutionary biologist Theodosius Dobzhansky acknowledged there was still no hard evidence connecting microevolution and macroevolution. Unfortunately, since only microevolution can be observed within a human lifetime, Mr. Dobzhansky wrote, "We are compelled at the present level of knowledge reluctantly to put a sign of equality between the mechanisms of macro- and microevolution, and proceeding on this assumption, to push our investigations as far ahead as this working hypothesis will permit."
Pretty high powered guy to admit there is still no hard evidence connecting micro to macro.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/top ... Dobzhansky

There are other examples, and not just this teeny tidbit, like the fact they have no explanation for the Cambrian explosion or there is so little proof of their missing links (transitional species).
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