If you fully open the YouTube link and then click on the Part 2 in the right column, it's even more painful to watch the recovery. Funniest part is the tow truck driver needs to turn the steering wheel, so he dips his muddy hands into a mud puddle to rinse them off, then reaches through the driver's window and turns the steering wheel. Youch.
Hey piece of ****, my response was a joke hence the Get over yourself.
Yup, you're the only person paying taxes to subsidize the government's ownership of GM--a lot of us were against the bailouts. Seriously though, pull your head out and **** off, douchebag.
Whoa! It was a joke dude (a bit sensitive aren't we?).
It's the same **** I lay on my brother (who owns a dodge truck)
Guess I should have used smilies.
Yeah, I resent the bailout(s)...across the board.
I have a BIG tax bill that I can't resolve because of FannieMae & FreedieMac requirements.
I won't go into the details but it's ironic that the people my tax dollars "bailed out" are now making it difficult to pay my taxes.
As for the NC pig farm reference.
Funding for a study as to why they stink was one of the "earmarks" in uncle Obama's "porkulus" bill (probably "urban myth" but isn't an unreasonable myth, given the way the porkulus bill is being executed) Don't know if it made the cut, but Bozeman made good use of their cut of Obama's stash to repave tennis courts.
Anyway, I don't usually apologize. especially here.
But for what it's worth, Sorry..............."Douchebag".
No hard feelings. In my defense: 1) It's hard to pick up sarcasm or jokes by reading text, so I missed it without the smilies and 2) being an AppState hillbilly...we don't always pick up everything.
As to the bailouts, yeah it's bullshit and it sucks you have the huge tax bill...
As to buying American, we most likely will never buy American again, for a multitude of reasons, bailouts notwithstanding. I'd buy a Kia before I'd buy another Jeep.
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ASUMountaineer wrote:It's hard to pick up sarcasm or jokes by reading text, so I missed it without the smilies. Not sensitive, but I do enjoy some message board banter...especially with Z (speaking of douchebags). No hard feelings.
As to the bailouts, yeah it's bullshit and it sucks you have the huge tax bill...
As to buying American, we most likely will never buy American again, for a multitude of reasons, bailouts notwithstanding. I'd buy a Kia before I'd buy another Jeep.
You fucker.
Why you gotta bring me into your girl-fight?
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ASUMountaineer wrote:It's hard to pick up sarcasm or jokes by reading text, so I missed it without the smilies. Not sensitive, but I do enjoy some message board banter...especially with Z (speaking of douchebags). No hard feelings.
As to the bailouts, yeah it's bullshit and it sucks you have the huge tax bill...
As to buying American, we most likely will never buy American again, for a multitude of reasons, bailouts notwithstanding. I'd buy a Kia before I'd buy another Jeep.
You ****.
Why you gotta bring me into your girl-fight?
Why not? You ready for me to kick your ass in fantasy baseball?
Happy? I changed it for you.
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ASUMountaineer wrote:......
No hard feelings. In my defense: 1) It's hard to pick up sarcasm or jokes by reading text, so I missed it without the smilies and 2) being an AppState hillbilly...we don't always pick up everything.
No problem. 1) my bad. 2) r hills is bigger then ur hills, whazzat make me?
ASUMountaineer wrote:As to the bailouts, yeah it's bullshit and it sucks you have the huge tax bill...
Yeah, neat system that takes your money to fix problems they create, then tells you to screw off when their solution get you in a pickle, then follow up with a "thank-you, oh by the way, please send more...or else.
ASUMountaineer wrote:As to buying American, we most likely will never buy American again, for a multitude of reasons, bailouts notwithstanding. I'd buy a Kia before I'd buy another Jeep.
I almost bought a Tundra but wanted the diesel. Ford's a stand-up company, didn't have any part of stealing from the taxpayer.
I have a 2002 Toyota Tacoma Truck. It's the best damn vehicle I've ever owned.
FUCK these motherfuckers who say "buy American". I tried that twice. One with a chevy and once with a dodge both of those cars sucked and died before 100,000 miles and I took great care of them.
I had some YUPPIE pussy come up to me once and comment on how I had a military license plate and was driving a Toyota. He then asked me what was American about that. I told him I also liked kayaking and hiking and asked him if he'd like me to kick his ass right in front of his wife. He was smart and walked away.
Typical YUPPIE.
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D1B wrote:Are our "legislators" going a bit overboard with Toyota? Sure looks to me they've admitted their mistakes and are committed to rectifying em. They also appear truly sorry and embarrassed.
Seems our reps are taking out 50 years of auto market frustration out on them for this one recent issue. Jesus Fucking Christ, weren't Fords spontaneously exploding not to long ago?
Also, smart people, like me, can see right through this lame attempt to divert attention from your remarkable ineptitude in Washington. Leave them the **** alone - get back to work and deliver healthcare reform, get us the **** out of Iraq and Afghanistan, fix the tax structure and quit spending money you don't have.
Fucking Knuckleheads.
Toyota is in direct competition with Congress since GM and Chrysler are practically government owned. Hence the dog and pony show.
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ASUMountaineer wrote:......
No hard feelings. In my defense: 1) It's hard to pick up sarcasm or jokes by reading text, so I missed it without the smilies and 2) being an AppState hillbilly...we don't always pick up everything.
No problem. 1) my bad. 2) r hills is bigger then ur hills, whazzat make me?
ASUMountaineer wrote:As to the bailouts, yeah it's bullshit and it sucks you have the huge tax bill...
Yeah, neat system that takes your money to fix problems they create, then tells you to screw off when their solution get you in a pickle, then follow up with a "thank-you, oh by the way, please send more...or else.
ASUMountaineer wrote:As to buying American, we most likely will never buy American again, for a multitude of reasons, bailouts notwithstanding. I'd buy a Kia before I'd buy another Jeep.
I almost bought a Tundra but wanted the diesel. Ford's a stand-up company, didn't have any part of stealing from the taxpayer.
I hear ya, we may look at Ford next (never been a fan before, but that's changing).
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COBBLESTONE wrote:I have a 2002 Toyota Tacoma Truck. It's the best damn vehicle I've ever owned.
FUCK these motherfuckers who say "buy American". I tried that twice. One with a chevy and once with a dodge both of those cars sucked and died before 100,000 miles and I took great care of them.
I had some YUPPIE pussy come up to me once and comment on how I had a military license plate and was driving a Toyota. He then asked me what was American about that. I told him I also liked kayaking and hiking and asked him if he'd like me to kick his ass right in front of his wife. He was smart and walked away.
Typical YUPPIE.
My Toyota was made in America.
I, too, have tried multiple American made vehicles. The last one (an Escalade) had so many things go wrong with it I had this exact conversation with the service manager:
me: Here's the warranty items I need fixed: a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, and j.
him: Whoa! That's a lot! Why did you wait to bring it in?
me: Because if I brought it in every time something went wrong, it'd spend 90% of the time in the shop.
him: Oh.
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93henfan wrote:Can any of you truck guys answer this question for me? Why don't the truck makers build a medium-duty, six cylinder diesel priced about the same as their gas V8s? I'd love to buy a truck with more torque, durability, and fuel efficiency than a V8 gasser for about the same price. The current Cummins/Duramax/Powerstroke offerings are overkill for a lot of folks. I don't need that kind of power, and there's no way I'm dropping over $40K on a pickup. A medium-duty diesel priced at ~$30K would sell like hotcakes. Why is Detroit (or even Tokyo) holding out?
Environmentalists. Emission equipment has hampered diesels (and driven up price) to the point that there is very little fuel economy benefit, over the increasingly efficient gasoline engines. http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/06/de ... f-150.html
Mahindra got started building Willy's Jeeps in WW2, you may want to hold fire on them until we see what they have. FWIW, they have a tractor dealer around here and their tractors are comparable to anything we make. If their small diesel truck will tow 5,000 lbs., carry 1.3 tons in a 7.5 ft bed, and get 30 mpg, as advertised, I will trade in my Tacoma immediately. Which, btw, is just a HIlux without a diesel.
The US is the only country on the planet where you can't get a Ranger or a Tacoma with a diesel. Part of it is the chicken tax, a retaliatory tariff in response to European countries that were protecting their poultry industry against cheap US chickens. The EPA shouldn't that big of a problem, VW has been selling clean diesels here for years and Mahindra is about to. I'd bet that Ford and Toyota just don't see much profit potential in the market segment.
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houndawg wrote:Mahindra got started building Willy's Jeeps in WW2, you may want to hold fire on them until we see what they have. FWIW, they have a tractor dealer around here and their tractors are comparable to anything we make. If their small diesel truck will tow 5,000 lbs., carry 1.3 tons in a 7.5 ft bed, and get 30 mpg, as advertised, I will trade in my Tacoma immediately. Which, btw, is just a HIlux without a diesel.
The US is the only country on the planet where you can't get a Ranger or a Tacoma with a diesel. Part of it is the chicken tax, a retaliatory tariff in response to European countries that were protecting their poultry industry against cheap US chickens. The EPA shouldn't that big of a problem, VW has been selling clean diesels here for years and Mahindra is about to. I'd bet that Ford and Toyota just don't see much profit potential in the market segment.
Dawg, I'm totally with you. I've owned two VW diesel cars and so wish I could get a small diesel pickup. I'd love one of these with a TDI and a longer bed, if they'd just sell the damn things here: http://loadinform.com/2010-volkswagen-amarok/
houndawg wrote:Mahindra got started building Willy's Jeeps in WW2, you may want to hold fire on them until we see what they have. FWIW, they have a tractor dealer around here and their tractors are comparable to anything we make. If their small diesel truck will tow 5,000 lbs., carry 1.3 tons in a 7.5 ft bed, and get 30 mpg, as advertised, I will trade in my Tacoma immediately. Which, btw, is just a HIlux without a diesel.
The US is the only country on the planet where you can't get a Ranger or a Tacoma with a diesel. Part of it is the chicken tax, a retaliatory tariff in response to European countries that were protecting their poultry industry against cheap US chickens. The EPA shouldn't that big of a problem, VW has been selling clean diesels here for years and Mahindra is about to. I'd bet that Ford and Toyota just don't see much profit potential in the market segment.
Dawg, I'm totally with you. I've owned two VW diesel cars and so wish I could get a small diesel pickup. I'd love one of these with a TDI and a longer bed, if they'd just sell the damn things here: http://loadinform.com/2010-volkswagen-amarok/
I bought a F-150 brand new back in 2002. I got the 5.4 liter engine in it and all the bells and whistles. It is the best vehicle I ever had. The one before it was a Ranger, and that truck is still going with about 350,000 miles on it (I know the guy I sold it to).
Unfortunately, I can't take the truck to Vietnam. There's nowhere over there to sevice one, I'd have to special oprder parts, and it won't fit in the container that they ship vehicles in so I would have to pay an extra $1500 bucks or so out of pocket to get it over there. Next week I am going to sell it and that just sucks balls, I can tell you.
A few months ago I researched good 4x4 SUVs that have service in multiple countries (particularly Vietnam and anglophone Africa). The 4Runner was hands down the obvious vehicle. I bought the 2009 Sport model with the V-6. I took it down home in NC on the farm to put it through the paces and then I went to Boone during the ice/snow in December. Took it up and down Willow Mountain the whole dang week. I really have no complaints. We'll see how things go with the maintenance, but so far I think I bought a pretty good vehicle.
I'm getting a snorkel attachment for the monsoon season if I can find one.
"You however, are an insufferable ankle biting mental chihuahua..." - Clizzoris
My dad has a '99 F-150 that he bought nearly 12 years ago. It has ~170k miles on it and hasn't cost a dime outside of payments and maintenance. I've drive a used Saturn with 120k miles on it that I've had for six years and haven't had any problems with it.
I will never understand the irrational fetish that some Americans have for foreign cars. There are American made cars that are every bit as good as foreign cars. You just have to know which ones are good and not not just give up because you've had bad experiences with one particular brand.
He told the Associated Press that he was certain his foot was off the accelerator and he was applying the brakes as hard as he could. But he couldn’t stop his 1996 Toyota Camry from flying up an interstate ramp, striking a car at a red light in front of him. The crash killed two people in the waiting car (Javis Adams, 33 and his son Javis Jr., 10), while a third died in the hospital (Devyn Bolton, 6). Minnesota police estimate that Koua Fong Lee was traveling anywhere from 70 to 90 miles per hour at the time of impact.
A Minnesota jury didn’t buy his defense, and Koua Fong Lee was sentenced to eight years in prison. But it is the information that has come to light following news of the Toyota recall that has talk of reopening Koua Fong Lee’s case. Prosecutor Phil Carruthers supports the idea.
I am surprised that this guy got 8 years in the first place, regardless of the possible Toyota defect..at worst, it would be negligence which should not carry an 8 year sentence.
...unless the jurors thought he actually intended to slam on the gas.
93henfan wrote:
Dawg, I'm totally with you. I've owned two VW diesel cars and so wish I could get a small diesel pickup. I'd love one of these with a TDI and a longer bed, if they'd just sell the damn things here: http://loadinform.com/2010-volkswagen-amarok/
I bought a F-150 brand new back in 2002. I got the 5.4 liter engine in it and all the bells and whistles. It is the best vehicle I ever had. The one before it was a Ranger, and that truck is still going with about 350,000 miles on it (I know the guy I sold it to).
Unfortunately, I can't take the truck to Vietnam. There's nowhere over there to sevice one, I'd have to special oprder parts, and it won't fit in the container that they ship vehicles in so I would have to pay an extra $1500 bucks or so out of pocket to get it over there. Next week I am going to sell it and that just sucks balls, I can tell you.
A few months ago I researched good 4x4 SUVs that have service in multiple countries (particularly Vietnam and anglophone Africa). The 4Runner was hands down the obvious vehicle. I bought the 2009 Sport model with the V-6. I took it down home in NC on the farm to put it through the paces and then I went to Boone during the ice/snow in December. Took it up and down Willow Mountain the whole dang week. I really have no complaints. We'll see how things go with the maintenance, but so far I think I bought a pretty good vehicle.
I'm getting a snorkel attachment for the monsoon season if I can find one.
Why not buy when you get to your destination instead of shipping a vehicle from here?
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CID1990 wrote:
I bought a F-150 brand new back in 2002. I got the 5.4 liter engine in it and all the bells and whistles. It is the best vehicle I ever had. The one before it was a Ranger, and that truck is still going with about 350,000 miles on it (I know the guy I sold it to).
Unfortunately, I can't take the truck to Vietnam. There's nowhere over there to sevice one, I'd have to special oprder parts, and it won't fit in the container that they ship vehicles in so I would have to pay an extra $1500 bucks or so out of pocket to get it over there. Next week I am going to sell it and that just sucks balls, I can tell you.
A few months ago I researched good 4x4 SUVs that have service in multiple countries (particularly Vietnam and anglophone Africa). The 4Runner was hands down the obvious vehicle. I bought the 2009 Sport model with the V-6. I took it down home in NC on the farm to put it through the paces and then I went to Boone during the ice/snow in December. Took it up and down Willow Mountain the whole dang week. I really have no complaints. We'll see how things go with the maintenance, but so far I think I bought a pretty good vehicle.
I'm getting a snorkel attachment for the monsoon season if I can find one.
Why not buy when you get to your destination instead of shipping a vehicle from here?
He bought with the stimulus money. Helping the American economy.
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"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." Barack Obama, 9/25/12
ASUG8 wrote:I heard some of the talking heads saying that some of the basis for the Congressional hearing could be based in protectionism for the now Government Motors to help further discredit Toyota and prop up the US auto industry. A number of the grillers represent states with US auto manufacturing plants.
If true, these guys will stop at nothing in an election year to remain inside the beltway.
Maybe they can call the Chinese toymakers over here for using lead paint next.
... and most of Toyota's Congressional inquisitors have been leading recipients of UAW political donations.
CID1990 wrote:
I bought a F-150 brand new back in 2002. I got the 5.4 liter engine in it and all the bells and whistles. It is the best vehicle I ever had. The one before it was a Ranger, and that truck is still going with about 350,000 miles on it (I know the guy I sold it to).
Unfortunately, I can't take the truck to Vietnam. There's nowhere over there to sevice one, I'd have to special oprder parts, and it won't fit in the container that they ship vehicles in so I would have to pay an extra $1500 bucks or so out of pocket to get it over there. Next week I am going to sell it and that just sucks balls, I can tell you.
A few months ago I researched good 4x4 SUVs that have service in multiple countries (particularly Vietnam and anglophone Africa). The 4Runner was hands down the obvious vehicle. I bought the 2009 Sport model with the V-6. I took it down home in NC on the farm to put it through the paces and then I went to Boone during the ice/snow in December. Took it up and down Willow Mountain the whole dang week. I really have no complaints. We'll see how things go with the maintenance, but so far I think I bought a pretty good vehicle.
I'm getting a snorkel attachment for the monsoon season if I can find one.
Why not buy when you get to your destination instead of shipping a vehicle from here?
It's a long, boring explanation, but the Reader's Digest version is that it would have been much more expensive to do it that way.
Plus, Toyota does not sell the 4Runner in Vietnam, and if they did, it would cost about $70,000 USD. (A new Highlander in Ho Chi Minh City retails at $62,000)
As a diplomat, I can import one vehicle, but I cannot buy it and have it shipped once I am already there.
The good news is that when I am about to leave Vietnam, I can sell it there.
BTW... I did not use cash for clunkers as a matter of principle when I traded the wife's Subaru for the Toyota.
"You however, are an insufferable ankle biting mental chihuahua..." - Clizzoris
houndawg wrote:
Why not buy when you get to your destination instead of shipping a vehicle from here?
It's a long, boring explanation, but the Reader's Digest version is that it would have been much more expensive to do it that way.
Plus, Toyota does not sell the 4Runner in Vietnam, and if they did, it would cost about $70,000 USD. (A new Highlander in Ho Chi Minh City retails at $62,000)
As a diplomat, I can import one vehicle, but I cannot buy it and have it shipped once I am already there.
The good news is that when I am about to leave Vietnam, I can sell it there.
BTW... I did not use cash for clunkers as a matter of principle when I traded the wife's Subaru for the Toyota.
Subarus and Toyotas might be close enough in mpg that you wouldn't have qualified anyway, but it's the thought that counts. I took the clunker money so fast that I'm surprised Wall Street isn't asking for my resume.
If you go through Honolulu on your way to Viet Nam take a meal at Duc's, the place is outstanding.
Sounds like an interesting career change, from cop to diplomat.
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