SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:02 pmkalm wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:31 am The hypocrisy of the Christian Right is clear. I’m not sure though in the assessment that Trump no longer controls the movement.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/26/opin ... tid=uc01c0Always love a Cleatsesque evaluation of a subject you clearly have no grasp upon.
Trump doesn't need to profess to you or anyone else his sins. It's a gift. You can't take that away.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:41 pmProbably at least once a day. I'm not afraid to make mistakes and I try to be a big enough person to admit them.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:43 pm
How often do you admit you've made a mistake? What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Nothing and Trump doesn't have to admit shit. I have no clue of Trump salvation status, but you judging him bears zero shits on his status. Judgy Judgerton.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? You're the one who posted "those who accept Christ admit they are flawed." trump can't admit he's flawed therefore he must not have accepted Christ. Why do evangelicals support the heathen?
You're right trump doesn't need to profess his sins to me, he wouldn't have time to do that even if he lived to 100.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:27 amTrump doesn't need to profess to you or anyone else his sins. It's a gift. You can't take that away.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:41 pm
Probably at least once a day. I'm not afraid to make mistakes and I try to be a big enough person to admit them.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? You're the one who posted "those who accept Christ admit they are flawed." trump can't admit he's flawed therefore he must not have accepted Christ. Why do evangelicals support the heathen?
Besides, this is a tired old game non Christians like to play. Everything a Christian does is so unlike Jesus. No shit, it's why salvation is needed.
Maybe they should try to be a better human while here on earth?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:27 amTrump doesn't need to profess to you or anyone else his sins. It's a gift. You can't take that away.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:41 pm
Probably at least once a day. I'm not afraid to make mistakes and I try to be a big enough person to admit them.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? You're the one who posted "those who accept Christ admit they are flawed." trump can't admit he's flawed therefore he must not have accepted Christ. Why do evangelicals support the heathen?
Besides, this is a tired old game non Christians like to play. Everything a Christian does is so unlike Jesus. No shit, it's why salvation is needed.
That isn't the problem, thats human nature - just don't tell me, ad nauseum, that God wants me to send my money to a guy that lives on a $10,000,000 spread and has his own jet and TV show and doesn't pay taxes. Bitch pleaseSeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:27 amTrump doesn't need to profess to you or anyone else his sins. It's a gift. You can't take that away.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:41 pm
Probably at least once a day. I'm not afraid to make mistakes and I try to be a big enough person to admit them.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? You're the one who posted "those who accept Christ admit they are flawed." trump can't admit he's flawed therefore he must not have accepted Christ. Why do evangelicals support the heathen?
Besides, this is a tired old game non Christians like to play. Everything a Christian does is so unlike Jesus. No shit, it's why salvation is needed.
Jeez. You don't sound very forgiving.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:20 amYou're right trump doesn't need to profess his sins to me, he wouldn't have time to do that even if he lived to 100.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:27 am
Trump doesn't need to profess to you or anyone else his sins. It's a gift. You can't take that away.
Besides, this is a tired old game non Christians like to play. Everything a Christian does is so unlike Jesus. No shit, it's why salvation is needed.
I on the other hand don't have to buy into trump's con. I'll leave that to the suckers/MAGAts.
I feel pity for the suckers/MAGAts.
Yes, I've seen what that means. It's code to mean Christians should discard their values and allow depravity to run unchecked.kalm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:25 amMaybe they should try to be a better human while here on earth?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:27 am
Trump doesn't need to profess to you or anyone else his sins. It's a gift. You can't take that away.
Besides, this is a tired old game non Christians like to play. Everything a Christian does is so unlike Jesus. No shit, it's why salvation is needed.
Then maybe, like a good caring person, donate some time to help them out. You do care about people don't you?!?
Which values? The values of being kind, accepting and loving your neighbors? Or is it ok to put those values aside if you disagree with how someone lives their life?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:52 pmYes, I've seen what that means. It's code to mean Christians should discard their values and allow depravity to run unchecked.
I've tried but trying to talk sense to them is like talking to a brick wall. They're content to stand around in their circle, jerking each other off while congratulating each other on how righteous they are. Getting through to them would be like trump paying a subcontractor, unlikely to happen.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:53 pmThen maybe, like a good caring person, donate some time to help them out. You do care about people don't you?!?
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:59 pmWhich values? The values of being kind, accepting and loving your neighbors? Or is it ok to put those values aside if you disagree with how someone lives their life?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:52 pm
Yes, I've seen what that means. It's code to mean Christians should discard their values and allow depravity to run unchecked.
What helps him (or DeSantis) in the primary will likely hurt him in the general.
In our polarized political environment, that's true of both sides of the aisle. No one likes the other side, so whatever works for that side in a smaller primary will of course hurt them in the wider general when the other side is involved.
I agree. My post was more about BDK's glee about trump's legal troubles & Waco rally helping him in the primary. I don't think he's seeing that those same things will hurt him in the general. If this keeps up Biden might kick trump's azz again.
I doubt it, but that is the thinking of the donks. They are trying to play 4D chess here: Indict Trump with something, anything. Conviction doesn’t matter because with motions and all the courts (state & Fed) being way backlogged since Covid, it will take a couple years to play out in the courts. Meanwhile that will theow red meat to the left’s base, and also galvanize the right behind Trump, which will mean Trump wins the GOP primary, and Trump the donks think Trump is the only candidate Biden can beat (they are afraid of Desantis). That is what I think the left’s angle is.
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
DeSantis couldn’t even handle Disney.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 10:00 amI doubt it, but that is the thinking of the donks. They are trying to play 4D chess here: Indict Trump with something, anything. Conviction doesn’t matter because with motions and all the courts (state & Fed) being way backlogged since Covid, it will take a couple years to play out in the courts. Meanwhile that will theow red meat to the left’s base, and also galvanize the right behind Trump, which will mean Trump wins the GOP primary, and Trump the donks think Trump is the only candidate Biden can beat (they are afraid of Desantis). That is what I think the left’s angle is.
He was "dead as a doornail" until trump endorsed him for governor.kalm wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:17 amDeSantis couldn’t even handle Disney.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 10:00 am
I doubt it, but that is the thinking of the donks. They are trying to play 4D chess here: Indict Trump with something, anything. Conviction doesn’t matter because with motions and all the courts (state & Fed) being way backlogged since Covid, it will take a couple years to play out in the courts. Meanwhile that will theow red meat to the left’s base, and also galvanize the right behind Trump, which will mean Trump wins the GOP primary, and Trump the donks think Trump is the only candidate Biden can beat (they are afraid of Desantis). That is what I think the left’s angle is.
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/ ... sney-worldColumn: How Disney’s lawyers brutally mauled DeSantis over control of Disney World
Did you really believe that Florida’s arrogant Gov. Ron DeSantis would get the better of Walt Disney Co. in their fight over Disney’s supposed “wokeness”?
If so, you don’t know your Disney.
DeSantis handpicked a board of cronies to take over control of Reedy Creek Improvement District — the quasi-governmental entity that Disney and Florida established more than 55 years ago to control development and management of the land on which Walt Disney World, EPCOT and the company’s related enterprises are located.
There’s not a lot to suggest that the legal team assembled by one of the most powerful entities on the planet asked GPT to throw together a slapdash agreement.
— Joe Patrice, former corporate litigator and ‘Above the Law’ blogger
DeSantis’ board has now revealed that, while they were snoozing, Disney executed an agreement with their predecessors that strips the new board of all its powers except the authority to “maintain the roads and maintain basic infrastructure,” according to one of the new board members.
Hilariously, the agreement Disney reached will remain in effect at least until 21 years “after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, King of England,” currently living. More on this delicious provision in a moment. First, let’s get a legal commentator’s opinion of where the Disney-DeSantis battle currently stands.
“DeSantis may well try to toss legally executed agreements in the rubbish,” wrote former corporate litigator Joe Patrice on his blog “Above the Law,” “but there’s not a lot to suggest that the legal team assembled by one of the most powerful entities on the planet asked GPT to throw together a slapdash agreement.” Did you really believe that Florida’s arrogant Gov. Ron DeSantis would get the better of Walt Disney Co. in their fight over Disney’s supposed “wokeness”?
oh that’s not the same. He was claiming an actual day of arrest and telling people to protest. He was the only person on record saying it. And I thought you didn’t believe anonymous sources? During the Trump administration you railed against whistleblowers and anonymous sources.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 9:20 amWrong. The leak of Trump’s pemding arrest came out NYC 8 days ago (Fri, 3/17) from ‘anonymous sources’https://www.nbcnewyork.com/investigatio ... s/4160387/Local, state, and federal law enforcement and security agencies are preparing for the possibility that former President Donald J. Trump could be indicted as early as next week, according to five senior officials familiar with the discussions.
It might have come out a day or 2 earlier, but I remeber it was Friday, 3/17 when it 1st blew up in the news. Regardless, it didn’t 1st come from Trump, who didn’t put out a truth about it until the next day, Saturday, 3/18.
BigotUNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:08 pmI've tried but trying to talk sense to them is like talking to a brick wall. They're content to stand around in their circle, jerking each other off while congratulating each other on how righteous they are. Getting through to them would be like trump paying a subcontractor, unlikely to happen.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:53 pm
Then maybe, like a good caring person, donate some time to help them out. You do care about people don't you?!?
My time is better spent helping kids, people with disabilities, veterans, the houseless, etc.
Sure sounds like you've put those values aside and gone with hate.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:59 pmWhich values? The values of being kind, accepting and loving your neighbors? Or is it ok to put those values aside if you disagree with how someone lives their life?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:52 pm
Yes, I've seen what that means. It's code to mean Christians should discard their values and allow depravity to run unchecked.
Complaints about the nature of Trump are just proxies for objections to the nature of his base. It doesn’t help stabilize our already twitchy situation that those who bleat the loudest about democracy are also audibly and visibly determined to deny a real choice to half the country. “No matter how you vote, you will not get X”—whether X is a candidate or a policy—is guaranteed to increase discontent with the present regime.
People I have known for 30 years, many of whom still claim the label “conservative,” will no longer speak to me—because I supported Trump, yes, but also because I disagree on trade, war, and the border. They call not just my positions, but me personally, unadulterated evil. I am not an isolated case. There are, as they say, “many such cases.” How are we supposed to have “democracy” when the policies and candidates my side wants and votes for are anathema and can’t be allowed? How are we supposed to live together with the constant demonization from one side against the other blaring 24/7 from the ruling class’s every propaganda organ? Why would we want to?