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Chizzang wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Aren't you adorable....
:tothehand:

You cannot adopt that attitude when you said you think Trump is a financial genius
aren't YOU adorable

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When did I ever say Trump is a financial genius? Please, show me.



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I'm sure he did but I'm also guessing his assistant was White. What I'm talking about is that, every Black history month, you see this list of stuff Blacks supposedly invented. Then when you look up the details it's not true. A Black guy invented the X Ray machine. A Black guy invented the air conditioner. A Black guy invented the elevator. A Black guy invented the traffic signal. And, of course, a Black guy invented the gas mask.

None of it is true. You have to come off as a heel and killjoy when you point it out but it is what it is. What you inevitably find is that a Black guy invented some particular version of whatever it is they're talking about. And the truth is that the world would be pretty much like it is with respect to technological advances like that if there had never been any Black people. Well, except that ultimately all of us trace our ancestry to Africa to start with so if there weren't ever any Black people to start with there wouldn't be any people.
Lets say a black person in 1920 invented a new form of air conditioning, what was the likelihood of this person obtaining a Patton from the U.S. Government. I think this happened more than you think. I don't think people were will to give a black person credit for an invention they would make them wealthy. Just my opinion.
I don't think it happened as often as you think it did. You didn't need to be there in person to apply for a patent so how would the Patent Office know the race of the applicant? I'm sure it did happen from time to time but it wasn't endemic by the US government.

What was more endemic, obviously, was the access of Blacks to real research jobs and, even then, to be in a position of leadership in those jobs to get to be the person who puts their name on the patent application. There's no doubt that there was a huge impact from racism at the time that would've limited the options of Black inventors or the like. I just don't think the Patent Office was where that was happening.
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Ibanez wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
:tothehand:

You cannot adopt that attitude when you said you think Trump is a financial genius
aren't YOU adorable

:ohno:
When did I ever say Trump is a financial genius? Please, show me.


Or just shut the fuck up.
You seem pretty touchy about your belief that the old Trumpster is a financial wizard...

Your quote was this:
"I have to believe that a man worth 100s of millions of dollars has some financial skill. Otherwise, we're all doing something very, very wrong."

That ^ dingbat response is what I'm talking about
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Chizzang wrote:
Ibanez wrote: When did I ever say Trump is a financial genius? Please, show me.


Or just shut the fuck up.
You seem pretty touchy about your belief that the old Trumpster is a financial wizard...

Your quote was this:
"I have to believe that a man worth 100s of millions of dollars has some financial skill. Otherwise, we're all doing something very, very wrong."

That ^ dingbat response is what I'm talking about
You equate skill to being a genius? :suspicious: :rofl: I have some musical skills but i'm not a genius when it comes to playing guitar. That's a stretch. Keep on, keepin on. :thumb:
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Ibanez wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
You seem pretty touchy about your belief that the old Trumpster is a financial wizard...

Your quote was this:
"I have to believe that a man worth 100s of millions of dollars has some financial skill. Otherwise, we're all doing something very, very wrong."

That ^ dingbat response is what I'm talking about
You equate skill to being a genius? :suspicious: :rofl: I have some musical skills but i'm not a genius when it comes to playing guitar. That's a stretch. Keep on, keepin on. :thumb:
The only thing he's skillfully done is dupe you into believing he's skillful

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Would you two get a chindo and a honeymoon suite and be done with it?
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Ibanez wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
You seem pretty touchy about your belief that the old Trumpster is a financial wizard...

Your quote was this:
"I have to believe that a man worth 100s of millions of dollars has some financial skill. Otherwise, we're all doing something very, very wrong."

That ^ dingbat response is what I'm talking about
You equate skill to being a genius? :suspicious: :rofl: I have some musical skills but i'm not a genius when it comes to playing guitar. That's a stretch. Keep on, keepin on. :thumb:
Hey look

Clitteris took another statement, ran it through his fantasy sphincter and popped out another exaggeration in the guise of a "quote"




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Chizzang wrote:
Ibanez wrote:You equate skill to being a genius? :suspicious: :rofl: I have some musical skills but i'm not a genius when it comes to playing guitar. That's a stretch. Keep on, keepin on. :thumb:
The only thing he's skillfully done is dupe you into believing he's skillful

:coffee:
You seem really touchy about my opinion. Do you think people that are bad with money grow wealth? Granted, he was born with a silver spoon but does that negate anything he's done (or validate for that matter)? I'm not duped (and FWIW, Trump is total ass) i'm just making an observation. People with poor financial skills usually don't have golf courses, multiple homes and cars, etc...
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Grizalltheway wrote:Would you two get a chindo and a honeymoon suite and be done with it?
I hate to ask...but a chindo?
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Ibanez wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
The only thing he's skillfully done is dupe you into believing he's skillful

:coffee:
You seem really touchy about my opinion. Do you think people that are bad with money grow wealth? Granted, he was born with a silver spoon but does that negate anything he's done (or validate for that matter)? I'm not duped (and FWIW, Trump is total ass) i'm just making an observation. People with poor financial skills usually don't have golf courses, multiple homes and cars, etc...

Net negative $950 Million in the 90's
That's was his growth - $905,000,000.00 and were it not for Millionaires bankruptcy shinanigans he'd be completely gone from the scene and never have been heard from again by anybody...

But we have a system BUILT for and DESIGNED for the wealthy to stay wealthy

:coffee:

Donald Trump is about as special as any other pathological silver spoon wanna-bee
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Ibanez wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:Would you two get a chindo and a honeymoon suite and be done with it?
I hate to ask...but a chindo?
I'm so glad you did!

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CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:You equate skill to being a genius? :suspicious: :rofl: I have some musical skills but i'm not a genius when it comes to playing guitar. That's a stretch. Keep on, keepin on. :thumb:
Hey look

Clitteris took another statement, ran it through his fantasy sphincter and popped out another exaggeration in the guise of a "quote"
Don't you have some fabrications about our Russian allies to spread
(Remember Hilary did it)
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Hey look

Clitteris took another statement, ran it through his fantasy sphincter and popped out another exaggeration in the guise of a "quote"
Don't you have some fabrications about our Russian allies to spread
(Remember Hilary did it)
what fabrications?

Like the one about the 1980s calling?


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CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:You equate skill to being a genius? :suspicious: :rofl: I have some musical skills but i'm not a genius when it comes to playing guitar. That's a stretch. Keep on, keepin on. :thumb:
Hey look

Clitteris took another statement, ran it through his fantasy sphincter and popped out another exaggeration in the guise of a "quote"




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THIS.

It used to be fun and somewhat interesting to read Chizzy's posts. Unfortunately,he turned his aloofism into some sort of ignorance that claims intelligence that can't be dismissed by actual human beings.
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Chizzang wrote:
Ibanez wrote: You seem really touchy about my opinion. Do you think people that are bad with money grow wealth? Granted, he was born with a silver spoon but does that negate anything he's done (or validate for that matter)? I'm not duped (and FWIW, Trump is total ass) i'm just making an observation. People with poor financial skills usually don't have golf courses, multiple homes and cars, etc...

Net negative $950 Million in the 90's
That's was his growth - $905,000,000.00 and were it not for Millionaires bankruptcy shinanigans he'd be completely gone from the scene and never have been heard from again by anybody...

But we have a system BUILT for and DESIGNED for the wealthy to stay wealthy

:coffee:

Donald Trump is about as special as any other pathological silver spoon wanna-bee
Trump is a host unto himself. Just curious, b/c I don't care enough to look it up, but what is his net growth in the past 10 years? 5 years? 15 years? As I understand it, the 1990s ended about 17 years ago.


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Cluck U wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Hey look

Clitteris took another statement, ran it through his fantasy sphincter and popped out another exaggeration in the guise of a "quote"




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THIS.

It used to be fun and somewhat interesting to read Chizzy's posts. Unfortunately,he turned his aloofism into some sort of ignorance that claims intelligence that can't be dismissed by actual human beings.
Yeah... ^ you nailed it

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93henfan wrote:CID, I work a couple of blocks from Capitol Hill in a building shared with a large hotel that hosts conventions for advocacy groups (2-3 a week usually) marching on the mall or lobbying Congress. I have been here a year and have seen advocacy groups for just about every variation of human being under the sun except one - straight white men.

That's where the country is headed. You can show pride in and fight for whatever you are, as long as it's not being an average straight white man. That would be racist, sexist, genderist, etc.

We are the devil, apparently, and need to be punished and wiped off the face of the planet.
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mrklean wrote:
kalm wrote:
I'm so goddamned proud to be an average white straight white man, I refuse to like hip hop and R&B. I have well cropped, blond hair, that's a straight as an arrow. My jeans only sag because my white privileged full belly pushes them down and my ass crack hangs out.

What do you feel the need to protest about? Let me know, and I'll join ya...after I'm done bending the brim on my hat.
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Ray Wiley Hubbard wrote that song, in case you're interested in expanding your cultural awareness....

Rap and hip hop would benefit greatly if their artists listened to more country music 8-) . Real country music, not the drivel that comes out of Nashville. PM me and I can get you started on the right stuff like Ray Charles liked.
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GrizFanStuckInUtah wrote:
mrklean wrote:Back to the original question, Tell me how Black college students get a free government ride to a college education? Name me the program.
https://www.careeronestop.org/toolkit/t ... 4294967230
https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/types/gran ... ships/pell

I could go on but I won't. I joined the Army and used the GI bill to help get through school. Anyone that is willing to spend a few years can do that. :coffee:
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CAA Flagship wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
Oh, yeah, Lil' Cluck is headed to DSU!!!!

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I tuned into the DSU - Missouri game recently and was surprised at how many whites were playing for DSU.
DSU must have been trying to kill the clock.
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JohnStOnge wrote:I think Whites should stay in their own cultural lanes just because their cultural lanes are better. I never have gotten this thing of White people not being proud of their own cultural history. Like it's bad to be from the culture that developed the scientific method, made most of the biggest scientific advancements in human history, had people like Bach and Da vinci as opposed to guys beating on primitive drums and painted or sculpted/carved stuff that looks like something a 2nd grader wouldl do, etc. Makes no sense.
Nonsense Johno. We're proud of much of our cultural history. You should get to the mainland once in a while. Things have changed a lot.
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BDKJMU wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
I will say that nothing puts me off more than seeing a young White person trying to act Black. Why on Earth would a White person do that? It makes absolutely no sense. They should be proud to be White and be what they are. Like I said: Whites developed the scientific method. A White invented antibiotics. Whites are responsible for what we know as modern medicine. Whites put people on the moon. Whites, for better or worse, discovered nuclear power. Whites developed airplanes. Whites developed the internal combustion issue. Whites developed X Ray technology. Electrical technology. On and on. They also invented most of the stuff people claim Blacks invented during Black history month. Like traffic signals and X Ray machines.

Why on Earth would you not be proud to be White instead of trying to act like something you're not?
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Bisonfanatical wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
You mean the *timing of Christmas wasn't based on Jesus' birth. Norse and Celtic holidays were supplanted by Roman ones in mainland Europe and Britain as a part of the assimilation process. The Nordic and northern Germanic tribes were never assimilated by the Roman Empire but their holidays like Yule still corresponded to the midwinter solstices and therefore also lined up with the Celtic ones. Later, those northern areas that had not been absorbed by the Roman Empire before its fall were later reached by Christian missionaries that had a fairly easy time of converting the Danes, etc since Aha! All our holidays line up!

Mostly Xmas and Easter are the ones left since we aren't an agrarian society anymore, but many other holidays are out there like Samhain - All Hallows' Eve


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True in part about the assimilation of beliefs by the conquering armies, however,
Christmas was instituted by a Pagan sun-god worshiping Roman Emperor named Constantine. Both the timing and the intention were based upon the "myth" of the rising sun god of the winter solstice, called by various names in various countries. Nothing about it is based upon the God of the Hebrew Bible nor upon the Messiah of the "New Testament".

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Chizzang wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
I will say that nothing puts me off more than seeing a young White person trying to act Black. Why on Earth would a White person do that? It makes absolutely no sense. They should be proud to be White and be what they are. Like I said: Whites developed the scientific method. A White invented antibiotics. Whites are responsible for what we know as modern medicine. Whites put people on the moon. Whites, for better or worse, discovered nuclear power. Whites developed airplanes. Whites developed the internal combustion issue. Whites developed X Ray technology. Electrical technology. On and on. They also invented most of the stuff people claim Blacks invented during Black history month. Like traffic signals and X Ray machines.

Why on Earth would you not be proud to be White instead of trying to act like something you're not?
White kids have been copying black kids since the way back times...
Before Elvis copied the black kids and delivered a product to whites that was a black thing
Before white musicians appropriated jazz
Even before we borrowed Blues from black men

We've been taking black ideas and black culture as far back as you can look

Disco / Rap / Jazz / Blues / you name it... we stole e'm all

:coffee:

This is not a new "thing" just starting with this generation
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houndawg wrote:
Bisonfanatical wrote:
True in part about the assimilation of beliefs by the conquering armies, however,
Christmas was instituted by a Pagan sun-god worshiping Roman Emperor named Constantine. Both the timing and the intention were based upon the "myth" of the rising sun god of the winter solstice, called by various names in various countries. Nothing about it is based upon the God of the Hebrew Bible nor upon the Messiah of the "New Testament".

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Not unexpected since Jesus is basically a recycled sun god myth.
Right.
Jesus is an invented name that is only about 500 years old for a person who existed 2000 years ago.
It is a myth, if you study that bible from the 1st half to the 2nd half you will not come to this sun-god myth.
We read from the 2nd half to the 1st half after drinking the kool-aid supplied by the "doctrines of demons" of the western church.
Having said that, I do believe in that Messiah, and the God of the Tanakh, as revealed in the Tanakh

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