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kalm wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:11 am
89Hen wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:52 am

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The lefties I read can’t stand him. He’s economically considered center right.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Well they consider ANYONE to the right of them to be “center right”, so there’s that.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:10 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:56 am

Want to trade polling data on specific issues? You know that can both help and hurt your argument. :ugeek:

For example:

Pharmaceutical prices
Income tax rates
Defense spending
Recreational drug legalization
Financial regulations
Single payer healthcare
Its all how you ask the question. For example, we’ve seen polling where an overwhelmingly majority prefer single payer. But then when you add in to the poll question rationing, longer wait periods, higher taxes, you won’t be able to keep your doctor, people are overwhelmingly against it.
All of which is highly debatable. But it’s obviously effective on low information voters.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:11 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:11 am

The lefties I read can’t stand him. He’s economically considered center right.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Well they consider ANYONE to the right of them to be “center right”, so there’s that.
Sometimes. :lol:

And for you guys, anyone economically to the left of oligarchs are MARXISTS!!!

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kalm wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:57 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:11 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Well they consider ANYONE to the right of them to be “center right”, so there’s that.
Sometimes. :lol:

And for you guys, anyone economically to the left of oligarchs are MARXISTS!!!

:lol:
Pretty much. Except the major difference being….we’re correct. Pretty much anybody to the left of 1%’ers blames their lot in life on the 1%’ers….
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AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:07 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:57 pm

Sometimes. :lol:

And for you guys, anyone economically to the left of oligarchs are MARXISTS!!!

:lol:
Pretty much. Except the major difference being….we’re correct. Pretty much anybody to the left of 1%’ers blames their lot in life on the 1%’ers….
So 99% of people blame those worth > $10 million?

Sounds legit. What a miserable existence.
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Which is why I don’t blame the oil companies for the rising price of gas. I’m above those type of proletarian shenanigans.
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kalm wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:56 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:10 pm
Its all how you ask the question. For example, we’ve seen polling where an overwhelmingly majority prefer single payer. But then when you add in to the poll question rationing, longer wait periods, higher taxes, you won’t be able to keep your doctor, people are overwhelmingly against it.
All of which is highly debatable. But it’s obviously effective on low information voters.
Wrong.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:21 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:56 pm

All of which is highly debatable. But it’s obviously effective on low information voters.
Wrong.
Exactly! And thank you! :clap: :lol:
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kalm wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:36 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:07 pm

Pretty much. Except the major difference being….we’re correct. Pretty much anybody to the left of 1%’ers blames their lot in life on the 1%’ers….
So 99% of people blame those worth > $10 million?

Sounds legit. What a miserable existence.
Lol. The 1%’er # is way below $10 million. Way, WAY below.
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Ibanez wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:58 am
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Did he really say that? That's pretty idiotic and out of touch.
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kalm wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:04 am
89Hen wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:40 am

He has a lot of control over the US economy from his seat at DOT. Can the lefties you read (shocking you read lefties) give some examples of his economic policy that is right of center?
He does. Which is why some lefties don’t care for him.

“What if I don’t want a vehicle? Maybe I prefer walking or mass transit. How does the $12,500 help me?”

Buttigieg: “By giving you credit towards a new vehicle.”

Do you read lefties?
He doesn't. Please tell me exactly what he has control over in his capacity at as Secretary of Nothing. Do I read lefties... no, I'd rather read Archie cartoons. I do watch CNN and MSNBC semi-regularly, just to see how the sick and demented the lefts view the world is. Before Trump I was a pretty moderate Conservative.... Now, I'm convinced all the hard-core righties are FAR more closer to being correct than people like you. I still love you kalm, but your politics are killing our country.
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89Hen wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:08 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:04 am

He does. Which is why some lefties don’t care for him.

“What if I don’t want a vehicle? Maybe I prefer walking or mass transit. How does the $12,500 help me?”

Buttigieg: “By giving you credit towards a new vehicle.”

Do you read lefties?
He doesn't. Please tell me exactly what he has control over in his capacity at as Secretary of Nothing. Do I read lefties... no, I'd rather read Archie cartoons. I do watch CNN and MSNBC semi-regularly, just to see how the sick and demented the lefts view the world is. Before Trump I was a pretty moderate Conservative.... Now, I'm convinced all the hard-core righties are FAR more closer to being correct than people like you. I still love you kalm, but your politics are killing our country.
This makes me sad, but I love you too, brother.

1) Regarding transportation Secretary, the FAA, FTA, highways, ports, railroads seem like items of importance.

2) Again, MSNBC and CNN represent the center right to corporate left. It’s performative left. That misunderstanding is a huge part of the problem with these type of discussions.

3) Extremism also needs to be defined better. Valid as well as “sick and demented” views and ideas can come from political extremes. This is especially true in crisis periods like the current one where rapid change and culture require rapid response. When our system functions properly, the valuable extreme ideas and views hopefully get softened through the political process by the moderates.

For example, abolishing the DOE would be considered by some on the left as extreme. However, given what I’ve seen, it may be a good idea. Or, just a few years back, gay marriage and legalized weed were considered extreme. Extremist takes might also might also be shared. I’ve heard liberals call for a no fly zone over Ukraine without recognizing the escalation implications. Similar to the “bombing them Muslims” back to the Stone Age sentiment in the 90’s and 00’s.

It might feel like the sky is falling (checks outside just to make sure it’s actually not) but I don’t think that feeling will last much longer. This is especially true for those who recognize that while not all change is good and sometimes deeply disturbing, it’s still also an inevitability of life and the universe.

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This sums up why I’m quickly becoming far less ideological than I used to be. I prefer ideas over party and ideology.

Thanks for your sincerity and indulging my long winded rant. :thumb:
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kalm wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:38 pm Which is why I don’t blame the oil companies for the rising price of gas. I’m above those type of proletarian shenanigans.
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Biden Sells Alaska Back To Russia So We Can Start Drilling For Oil There Again

ANCHORAGE, AK—The deliberate and premeditated invasion of Ukraine by brutal dictator Vladimir Putin has forced the US to reassess the importance of energy independence. With this new resolve, the Biden Administration has taken its first step toward increasing oil production for Americans by selling Alaska back to Russia so we can start drilling for oil there again.

“Folks, nobody wants to ruin America’s beautiful Alaskan wilderness with oil trucks and drilling rigs, come on!” said President Biden in response to questions he thought were coming from a house plant in the West Wing. “But I’ve never had a problem getting oil from Russia, so there you go, go get him.”

Jen Psaki praised Biden’s brilliance in finding a solution that would prevent an energy crisis while also preventing new drilling on American land. She pointed out succinctly to journalists, “You see, it’s not American land anymore; it’s Russian land.”

Politicians on both sides of the political aisle criticized Biden for selling Alaska without giving them enough time to sneak friends and family onto the boards of newly-relevant Russian oil companies. They also voiced concern that the negotiator handling both the Alaska sale as well as managing drilling permits was Hunter Biden and not their own children.
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