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kalm wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:25 am
UNI88 wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:19 am

I don't know. Is it possible that since the vaxxed get milder cases of COVID that the virus they spread is less dangerous on average?
Perhaps.

Hospital procedures around here require tests regardless.
I think most hospitals are like that - they have to test to make sure where they can put the patient (non-COVID areas versus COVID areas).
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Deer in Iowa appear to be catching COVID-19 from humans. Could it happen in other states?

The coronavirus appears to have infected many of Iowa’s deer, posing risks the virus could mutate in the animals and then re-enter the human population in an altered version, a new study says.

“Our results suggest that deer have the potential to emerge as a major reservoir host” for the coronavirus, the study says.

The paper, which has not yet been published in a peer-reviewed journal, has been posted online. The findings were verified on Tuesday by federal scientists at the National Veterinary Services Laboratories, according to a spokesperson who spoke to the New York Times.

The findings were a surprise to the researchers, including veterinary microbiologists Suresh Kuchipudi and Vivek Kapur who led the Penn State study.

The new study focuses on deer in Iowa, but says, "there is no reason to believe that the same thing isn't happening in other states where deer are present."

Rachel Ruden, Iowa's state wildlife veterinarian, helped write the report. She told the Times it's not clear how deer picked up the coronavirus from humans and then spread it among themselves.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 265831001/

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HI54UNI wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:28 am Could it happen in other states?
No. Only in Iowa.
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:19 am
SDHornet wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:32 pm

Yep. We know that vaxxed folks can spread the China Virus, if any place is going to require tests, why is it being limited to un-vaxxed?
I don't know. Is it possible that since the vaxxed get milder cases of COVID that the virus they spread is less dangerous on average?
But think of the children!!!
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SDHornet wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:47 pm
UNI88 wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:19 am
I don't know. Is it possible that since the vaxxed get milder cases of COVID that the virus they spread is less dangerous on average?
But think of the children!!!
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CAA Flagship wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:03 pm
HI54UNI wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:28 am Could it happen in other states?
No. Only in Iowa.
No, apparently it can affect deer in red states. But not blue..
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All other things aside: None of the vaccines are Trump's vaccines. Trump is not the reason why we got the various vaccines. This is another one of those things where Trump slapped a name on something that was going to happen anyway so he could claim credit for it. We would've gotten the various vaccines at about the times when we got them regardless of who was President at the time.
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Several things:

The probabilities of passing on the infection discussed involve situations in which someone vaccinated became infected. People who are vaccinated are less likely to become infected to begin with.

One of the vaccines discussed, the AstraZeneca vaccine, is not used in the United States. The Pfizer vaccine did offer reduction in transmission even if infected.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:46 pm
SDHornet wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:18 pm Image
All other things aside: None of the vaccines are Trump's vaccines. Trump is not the reason why we got the various vaccines. This is another one of those things where Trump slapped a name on something that was going to happen anyway so he could claim credit for it. We would've gotten the various vaccines at about the times when we got them regardless of who was President at the time.
They came out when he was in office, no? Someone needs to read up on Operation Warp Speed.

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JohnStOnge wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:11 pm The probabilities of passing on the infection discussed involve situations in which someone vaccinated became infected. People who are vaccinated are less likely to become infected to begin with.
That's what we were told originally, then it changed to they won't get it as badly.
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89Hen wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:44 am
JohnStOnge wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:11 pm The probabilities of passing on the infection discussed involve situations in which someone vaccinated became infected. People who are vaccinated are less likely to become infected to begin with.
That's what we were told originally, then it changed to they won't get it as badly.
So what? It's a new virus and we're still learning about it. There are bound to be mistakes.
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SDHornet wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:52 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:46 pm
All other things aside: None of the vaccines are Trump's vaccines. Trump is not the reason why we got the various vaccines. This is another one of those things where Trump slapped a name on something that was going to happen anyway so he could claim credit for it. We would've gotten the various vaccines at about the times when we got them regardless of who was President at the time.
They came out when he was in office, no? Someone needs to read up on Operation Warp Speed.

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UNI88 wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 8:46 am
SDHornet wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:52 pm

They came out when he was in office, no? Someone needs to read up on Operation Warp Speed.

Fucking moron. :lol:
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JSO’s still right in this instance, though. no?
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 8:44 am
89Hen wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:44 am

That's what we were told originally, then it changed to they won't get it as badly.
So what? It's a new virus and we're still learning about it. There are bound to be mistakes.
Some haven't learned.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 8:44 am
89Hen wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:44 am

That's what we were told originally, then it changed to they won't get it as badly.
So what? It's a new virus and we're still learning about it. There are bound to be mistakes.
It isn't a problem that the message changes, as you correctly point out, it is a new virus. It is how that original message is conveyed and accepted as written in stone immediately and then when somebody questions the message in a legitimate way, you are accused of being anti-science.

That is the nuance that I think SD and 89 are getting at.
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kalm wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 8:52 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 8:46 am
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JSO’s still right in this instance, though. no?
I don't think so. I shudder to think about what kind of obstacles a Biden administration might have put in place that would have slowed down vaccine development. The Trump administration fast tracked vaccine development and he should get credit for that. The irrational bias of JSO and other Trump haters prevent them from seeing that.
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Winterborn wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:48 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 8:44 am

So what? It's a new virus and we're still learning about it. There are bound to be mistakes.
It isn't a problem that the message changes, as you correctly point out, it is a new virus. It is how that original message is conveyed and accepted as written in stone immediately and then when somebody questions the message in a legitimate way, you are accused of being anti-science.

That is the nuance that I think SD and 89 are getting at.
He knows that.
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89Hen wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:54 pm
Winterborn wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:48 am

It isn't a problem that the message changes, as you correctly point out, it is a new virus. It is how that original message is conveyed and accepted as written in stone immediately and then when somebody questions the message in a legitimate way, you are accused of being anti-science.

That is the nuance that I think SD and 89 are getting at.
He knows that.
Never mind. I will quit trying to be helpful and go sip my beer in the corner. :lol:
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