2022 Elections Thread

[UNI88]

To liberals, voter disenfranchisement in Georgia is real while voter disenfranchisement in Arizona is manufactured.

To conservatives, voter disenfranchisement in Arizona is real while voter disenfranchisement in Georgia is manufactured.

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[kalm]

To liberals, voter disenfranchisement in Georgia is real while voter disenfranchisement in Arizona is manufactured.

To conservatives, voter disenfranchisement in Arizona is real while voter disenfranchisement in Georgia is manufactured.

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Arizona voters have been disenfranchised?

[dbackjon]

FYP, agreed and I would include voter ID as a control.

I've said it before, I don't see why we can't have a secure voting app on our phones. Counting would be so much faster without paper ballots. We could minimize the ballot harvesting.

Can’t guarantee that phones or online service couldn’t be hacked. The only foolproof way is in person.

Mail-in is more secure.

[dbackjon]

To liberals, voter disenfranchisement in Georgia is real while voter disenfranchisement in Arizona is manufactured.

To conservatives, voter disenfranchisement in Arizona is real while voter disenfranchisement in Georgia is manufactured.

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Arizona voters have been disenfranchised?

They haven't. But you have to do both sides, remember?

[UNI88]

Georgia voters have been disenfranchised?

They haven't. But you have to do both sides, remember?

FYP

[BDKJMU]

Can’t guarantee that phones or online service couldn’t be hacked. The only foolproof way is in person.

Mail-in is more secure.

Wrong.

[Baldy]

Can’t guarantee that phones or online service couldn’t be hacked. The only foolproof way is in person.

Mail-in is more secure.

[SDHornet]

Can’t guarantee that phones or online service couldn’t be hacked. The only foolproof way is in person.

Mail-in is more secure.

Then why is it banned in Europe and most other developed countries?

[SDHornet]

Saw several articles before the election talking about Russian interference with the upcoming election. Now that talk seems to have disappeared....

Naw, the Russians are still responsible for all the seats that flipped from Dem to Rep. Get your narratives straight.

[SDHornet]

Just a note on the Hispanic/Latino vote because I heard a Republican consultant today say the Republicans got "historic" support among that group. I don't know what he meant by "historic" but it was not the best they've done in a congressional mid term.

This time, the Hispanic/Latino vote was 60% for Democrats, 39% for Republicans. In the 2004 House elections, it was Democrats 55%, Republicans 44%.

By the next election, 2006, the overall House vote was 69% for Democrats 30% for Republicans.

And that's the thing. The Hispanic/Latino vote has been consistently in favor of Democrats but highly variable. I can't get to all the exit polling data for House races. But in Presidential races going back to 1976, the percentage of voters voting for Republicans has ranged from 18 through 44%. Some people made a big deal over Trump getting 32% of the Hispanic/Latino vote in 2020. That level of support ranked 5th highest among 12 Presidential elections since exit polling started. It was nowhere close to being unprecedented.

There is not, so far, evidence of change in the basic picture.

BTW, in 2004, the Republican Senate Candidate won the Hispanic/Latino vote in Florida by 60% to 39%. I also know that Bush won the Hispanic/Latino vote in Florida that year in the Presidential race but can't find the exit poll for that right now. The point is that what happened in Florida yesterday isn't unprecedented either.

You've been wrong on Team Brown voting trends for the better part of the past decade. I'd recommend you take a break from it.

[SDHornet]

Democrats did nominate a lot of moderates and it served them well. Hopefully they and progressive extremists learn from it to understand that most of America doesn't want a hard-left approach.

There were exceptions to Dems nominating moderate candidates too ...

It was a repudiation of Trump AND a vote of Confidence in Biden. And a repudiation of radical right-wing extremism like Dobbs.

He lost the House.

[SDHornet]

California Law allows for Mail-in ballots, if post-marked by election day, and received by the following Tuesday to be counted.

California has gone to mail-in ballots, which increase participation, but take longer to count.

Counting is done at the County level. For example, Conservative Kern County, failed to allocate money for new tabulating machines, relying on ONE Machine.


No election ANYWHERE in the country is official, yet.

Yep, this was by design. That said, Rep ballot harvesting game in CA has been solid and was a large reason for the Dems losing the House. Nation-wide, Reps need to up their ballot harvesting game if they want to have a chance in future elections.

[UNI88]

Mail-in is more secure.

Then why is it banned in Europe and most other developed countries?

Why are you liberals always trying to make the US more like Europe?

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[kalm]

Saw several articles before the election talking about Russian interference with the upcoming election. Now that talk seems to have disappeared....

Naw, the Russians are still responsible for all the seats that flipped from Dem to Rep. Get your narratives straight.

I mean there was literally a conviction for this recently.

[UNI88]

FYP, agreed and I would include voter ID as a control.

I've said it before, I don't see why we can't have a secure voting app on our phones. Counting would be so much faster without paper ballots. We could minimize the ballot harvesting.

Can’t guarantee that phones or online service couldn’t be hacked. The only foolproof way is in person.

Can't guarantee that thugs won't try to intimidate voters.

Don't be a Luddite, if banks can secure transactions then so can the government.

Ibanez has forgotten more about this topic than you or I will ever know.

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[kalm]

Can’t guarantee that phones or online service couldn’t be hacked. The only foolproof way is in person.

Can't guarantee that thugs won't try to intimidate voters.

Don't be a Luddite, if banks can secure transactions then so can the government.

Ibanez has forgotten more about this topic than you or I will ever know.

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Good point.

We care more way more about the safety of our bank account than our vote.

[UNI88]

Can't guarantee that thugs won't try to intimidate voters.

Don't be a Luddite, if banks can secure transactions then so can the government.

Ibanez has forgotten more about this topic than you or I will ever know.

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Good point.

We care more way more about the safety of our bank account than our vote.

Speak for yourself. I care a hell of a lot about both.

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[kalm]

Good point.

We care more way more about the safety of our bank account than our vote.

Speak for yourself. I care a hell of a lot about both.

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That’s because you only vote once each election…duh.

[UNI88]

Speak for yourself. I care a hell of a lot about both.

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That’s because you only vote once each election…duh.

Yep, I don't participate in or support biased ballot harvesting.

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[kalm]

That’s because you only vote once each election…duh.

Yep, I don't participate in or support biased ballot harvesting.

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Well with that attitude, it’s no wonder Illinois and Oregon remain blue.

Smh

[BDKJMU]

Can’t guarantee that phones or online service couldn’t be hacked. The only foolproof way is in person.

Can't guarantee that thugs won't try to intimidate voters.

Don't be a Luddite, if banks can secure transactions then so can the government.

Ibanez has forgotten more about this topic than you or I will ever know.

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Lol..would take a higher degree of competency that banks might have, but most govt doesn’t…

[Bobcat]

houndawg dumb

That's almost as dumb as buying the election was stolen lie.

There is no doubt election fraud and people have even pled guilty to doing so. Its not a stretch. Just like Russia was real you guys never learn from your mistakes, it was all 100% fabricated and I bought it at first too. Its just not the truth

[UNI88]

That's almost as dumb as buying the election was stolen lie.

There is no doubt election fraud and people have even pled guilty to doing so. Its not a stretch. Just like Russia was real you guys never learn from your mistakes, it was all 100% fabricated and I bought it at first too. Its just not the truth

You guys? I'm a small L libertarian.

I have no doubt there is and was election fraud. But, I don't think it's only committed in Democrats favor (weren't some of the people pleading guilty supporting Republicans?) and I don't think there was enough of it to swing the results of the 2020 election (or the 2016 election for people that buy Hillary and Hakeem Jeffries' baloney).

I'm not sure what your point is on Russia. You'll have to clarify if you would like me to respond to that.

[kalm]

There is no doubt election fraud and people have even pled guilty to doing so. Its not a stretch. Just like Russia was real you guys never learn from your mistakes, it was all 100% fabricated and I bought it at first too. Its just not the truth

You guys? I'm a small L libertarian.

I have no doubt there is and was election fraud. But, I don't think it's only committed in Democrats favor (weren't some of the people pleading guilty supporting Republicans?) and I don't think there was enough of it to swing the results of the 2020 election (or the 2016 election for people that buy Hillary and Hakeem Jeffries' baloney).

I'm not sure what your point is on Russia. You'll have to clarify if you would like me to respond to that.

I think he’s trying to say the Russian hoax was 100% fabricated.

[UNI88]

You guys? I'm a small L libertarian.

I have no doubt there is and was election fraud. But, I don't think it's only committed in Democrats favor (weren't some of the people pleading guilty supporting Republicans?) and I don't think there was enough of it to swing the results of the 2020 election (or the 2016 election for people that buy Hillary and Hakeem Jeffries' baloney).

I'm not sure what your point is on Russia. You'll have to clarify if you would like me to respond to that.

I think he’s trying to say the Russian hoax was 100% fabricated.

It was blown way out of proportion (and subsequently used by Nancy Pelosi and company in a sham impeachment attempt to overthrow a duly elected POTUS) but it wasn't 100% fabricated.