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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:32 pm Moderna CEO pushing for a 4th shot.
Of course he is $$$$$$$$$…
Frankly, as a Moderna recipient, I am all for that. My understanding is that there are indications are that effectiveness in terms of neutralizing antibodies begins to wane around 11 weeks. That's just one number I heard. I would be perfectly fine with taking a booster ever 2 or 3 months if that's what it takes. If they announce that we can get a second booster of Moderna I'll be as close to the front of the line as I can get to get one.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:01 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:32 pm Moderna CEO pushing for a 4th shot.
Of course he is $$$$$$$$$…
Frankly, as a Moderna recipient, I am all for that. My understanding is that there are indications are that effectiveness in terms of neutralizing antibodies begins to wane around 11 weeks. That's just one number I heard. I would be perfectly fine with taking a booster ever 2 or 3 months if that's what it takes. If they announce that we can get a second booster of Moderna I'll be as close to the front of the line as I can get to get one.
Admit it. You’ve already had 4 or 5 shots.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/us/a ... ccine.html
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AZGrizFan wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:58 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:56 pm

No, he did not admit that he lied about masks because he did not lie about masks. I just went through that. When he said masks are for preventing infected people from infecting others and that there wasn't much if any benefit in terms of protecting the wearer that was (and I think still is) the consensus opinion of the public health community. And he said before the recommendation was changed that keeping masks available for health care workers was a reason for not having everybody run out and buy masks. Him saying after the recommendation changed that they didn't want people running out and buying masks because they wanted to make sure they were available for health care personnel was completely consistent with what he said before the recommendation changed.

The change in recommendation was still consistent with the idea that infected people should wear masks to avoid transmitting to others. What changed is that they became convinced that people could be infected without anybody being able to tell so we had to assume anybody could be infectious at any time.
No, it was not and he’s on record as having admitted it. The “run” on masks was feared regarding N95 masks…THAT is why he lied on purpose. And he’s admitted it openly.
Again: He said BEFORE THE RECOMMENDATION WAS CHANGED that they did not want a run on masks. He did not lie. Specifically, what "lie" did he tell? He said, before the recommendation changed, that the reason for wearing masks is to prevent infected people from transmitting and that wearing masks to protect the wearer doesn't have much effect. That was consistent with what the available research at the time said.

Give me something specific that he said that you say was a lie he told with respect to masks. And you can't say that he changed with respect to saying keeping masks available for health care workers because he didn't. He said that all along.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:07 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:01 pm

Frankly, as a Moderna recipient, I am all for that. My understanding is that there are indications are that effectiveness in terms of neutralizing antibodies begins to wane around 11 weeks. That's just one number I heard. I would be perfectly fine with taking a booster ever 2 or 3 months if that's what it takes. If they announce that we can get a second booster of Moderna I'll be as close to the front of the line as I can get to get one.
Admit it. You’ve already had 4 or 5 shots.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/us/a ... ccine.html
I've had three. But, frankly, I would be fine based on what I've seen with getting one about every three months. I would also like to see them tweak the vaccines to adjust to evolution of the virus. I would be fine with that. A shot ever three months or so is not a big deal.

It'd be great if it could be just once per year like the flu shot. But once every three months would not be that much of an inconvenience.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:11 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:58 pm

No, it was not and he’s on record as having admitted it. The “run” on masks was feared regarding N95 masks…THAT is why he lied on purpose. And he’s admitted it openly.
Again: He said BEFORE THE RECOMMENDATION WAS CHANGED that they did not want a run on masks. He did not lie. Specifically, what "lie" did he tell? He said, before the recommendation changed, that the reason for wearing masks is to prevent infected people from transmitting and that wearing masks to protect the wearer doesn't have much effect. That was consistent with what the available research at the time said.

Give me something specific that he said that you say was a lie he told with respect to masks. And you can't say that he changed with respect to saying keeping masks available for health care workers because he didn't. He said that all along.
He said the only reason the recommendation changed was because in the beginning they didn’t want a run on masks. Once THAT was prevented, they changed the recommendation. So he lied about the necessity to prevent a run. Is that so hard to understand?
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AZGrizFan wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:58 pm No, it was not and he’s on record as having admitted it. The “run” on masks was feared regarding N95 masks…THAT is why he lied on purpose. And he’s admitted it openly.
Again: He said BEFORE THE RECOMMENDATION WAS CHANGED that they did not want a run on masks. He did not lie. Specifically, what "lie" did he tell? He said, before the recommendation changed, that the reason for wearing masks is to prevent infected people from transmitting and that wearing masks to protect the wearer doesn't have much effect. That was consistent with what the available research at the time said.

Give me something specific that he said that you say was a lie he told with respect to masks. And you can't say that he changed with respect to saying keeping masks available for health care workers because he didn't. He said that all along.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:16 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:07 pm
Admit it. You’ve already had 4 or 5 shots.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/us/a ... ccine.html
I've had three. But, frankly, I would be fine based on what I've seen with getting one about every three months. I would also like to see them tweak the vaccines to adjust to evolution of the virus. I would be fine with that. A shot ever three months or so is not a big deal.

It'd be great if it could be just once per year like the flu shot. But once every three months would not be that much of an inconvenience.
You do realize what you are saying in regards to placing constant pressure on the virus to mutate, right?
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JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:16 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:07 pm
Admit it. You’ve already had 4 or 5 shots.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/us/a ... ccine.html
I've had three. But, frankly, I would be fine based on what I've seen with getting one about every three months. I would also like to see them tweak the vaccines to adjust to evolution of the virus. I would be fine with that. A shot ever three months or so is not a big deal.

It'd be great if it could be just once per year like the flu shot. But once every three months would not be that much of an inconvenience.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 7:56 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:16 pm

I've had three. But, frankly, I would be fine based on what I've seen with getting one about every three months. I would also like to see them tweak the vaccines to adjust to evolution of the virus. I would be fine with that. A shot ever three months or so is not a big deal.

It'd be great if it could be just once per year like the flu shot. But once every three months would not be that much of an inconvenience.
You do realize what you are saying in regards to placing constant pressure on the virus to mutate, right?
That's what hollywood wacko liberals are telling us, Bobby DeNiro, Jim Carrey, etc.

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Gil Dobie wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:21 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 7:56 pm

You do realize what you are saying in regards to placing constant pressure on the virus to mutate, right?
That's what hollywood wacko liberals are telling us, Bobby DeNiro, Jim Carrey, etc.

Don't forget RFK Jr.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 9:34 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:21 pm

That's what hollywood wacko liberals are telling us, Bobby DeNiro, Jim Carrey, etc.

Don't forget RFK Jr.
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Questioning the catalyst. DeNiro is anti vax because he blames vaccines for his sons autism. Did you also vote for Brandon?
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Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:22 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 9:34 pm

:ohno: Denying Evolution.
Questioning the catalyst. DeNiro is anti vax because he blames vaccines for his sons autism. Did you also vote for Brandon?
Still denying that vaccines put pressure on the virus to evade? That catalyst?
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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:45 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:22 am

Questioning the catalyst. DeNiro is anti vax because he blames vaccines for his sons autism. Did you also vote for Brandon?
Still denying that vaccines put pressure on the virus to evade? That catalyst?
Denying your fear mongering and fear porn. People can choose without you and Brandon and Faucis fear porn.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:45 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:22 am

Questioning the catalyst. DeNiro is anti vax because he blames vaccines for his sons autism. Did you also vote for Brandon?
Still denying that vaccines put pressure on the virus to evade? That catalyst?
Science behind this?
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kalm wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:01 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:45 am

Still denying that vaccines put pressure on the virus to evade? That catalyst?
Science behind this?
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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:13 am
kalm wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:01 am

Science behind this?
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NOW you want to question the science? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:56 pm
89Hen wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:35 pm

Other than that he admitted he lied about masks early to keep there from being a run on them.
No, he did not admit that he lied about masks because he did not lie about masks. I just went through that. When he said masks are for preventing infected people from infecting others and that there wasn't much if any benefit in terms of protecting the wearer that was (and I think still is) the consensus opinion of the public health community. And he said before the recommendation was changed that keeping masks available for health care workers was a reason for not having everybody run out and buy masks. Him saying after the recommendation changed that they didn't want people running out and buying masks because they wanted to make sure they were available for health care personnel was completely consistent with what he said before the recommendation changed.

The change in recommendation was still consistent with the idea that infected people should wear masks to avoid transmitting to others. What changed is that they became convinced that people could be infected without anybody being able to tell so we had to assume anybody could be infectious at any time.
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After being caught partying maskless in Florida AOC has Covid.

The virus wanted to date her and got its way!
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HI54UNI wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:09 pm After being caught partying maskless in Florida AOC has Covid.

The virus wanted to date her and got its way!
After being vaxxed, boostered, pushing for mask mandates, vax mandates, school closures, etc she is seen maskless in a crowded bar in S FL, and gets the China Virus. The irony LAWL.. :rofl: Probably going to try to blame DeSantis..
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Iowa has a state OSHA division with an approved plan so the state handles OSHA enforcement rather than the Feds. Iowa OSHA just said their state plan is just as effective at fighting Covid as the proposed Fed requirement for vax mandates and they will not be adopting or enforcing the Fed mandate.
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89Hen wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:59 am
JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:56 pm

No, he did not admit that he lied about masks because he did not lie about masks. I just went through that. When he said masks are for preventing infected people from infecting others and that there wasn't much if any benefit in terms of protecting the wearer that was (and I think still is) the consensus opinion of the public health community. And he said before the recommendation was changed that keeping masks available for health care workers was a reason for not having everybody run out and buy masks. Him saying after the recommendation changed that they didn't want people running out and buying masks because they wanted to make sure they were available for health care personnel was completely consistent with what he said before the recommendation changed.

The change in recommendation was still consistent with the idea that infected people should wear masks to avoid transmitting to others. What changed is that they became convinced that people could be infected without anybody being able to tell so we had to assume anybody could be infectious at any time.
You are incorrect.

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kalm wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:57 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:13 am

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

NOW you want to question the science? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Yes….oh the irony….^^^^

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I see the crumbling Covid narrative has finally killed this thread off.
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