BlueHen86 wrote:Once again, you are quick to cite the media when it suits you.BDKJMU wrote:
Wouldn't have.
Lanza Reportedly Tried to Buy Rifle Earlier This Week, Was Denied.
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Aren't you doing the same?I agree completely and said something similar in a another thread on this topic.Seahawks08 wrote:Ding ding ding we have a winner!
From God...aka Morgan Freeman"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.
It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single victim of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.
CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.
You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem."
I agree completely and said something similar in a another thread on this topic.
BlueHen86 wrote:How do you know this? The news? When you like what the media has to say to say you buy in hook line and sinker, when you don't you post examples of media fuck ups.BDKJMU wrote: What an a**hatThe guns were SEMI auto and were LEGALLY purchased by reportedly the mother who was murdered by the lunatic son.
You ask for an intelligent discussion...yet you put forth idiotic posts like the one above.BlueHen86 wrote:It is sad that a tragedy like this brings out the idiots on both sides of the gun issue.
We deserve to be fucked (and shot) if we can't have an intellegent discussion on how to at least try to keep guns out of the hands of nuts.
How so? Where did I cite a media report?DSUrocks07 wrote:BlueHen86 wrote:
Once again, you are quick to cite the media when it suits you.
Yeah, I'm an idiot for questioning the media.Cluck U wrote:BlueHen86 wrote:
How do you know this? The news? When you like what the media has to say to say you buy in hook line and sinker, when you don't you post examples of media fuck ups.
You ask for an intelligent discussion...yet you put forth idiotic posts like the one above.BlueHen86 wrote:It is sad that a tragedy like this brings out the idiots on both sides of the gun issue.
We deserve to be fucked (and shot) if we can't have an intellegent discussion on how to at least try to keep guns out of the hands of nuts.
What he posted were facts...the SEMI automatic...and the issue of the guns being STOLEN from the mother. Very few people object to FACTS being posted by the news folks. What they object to is when the FACTS are manipulated to fit a particular writer's agenda...often a hate filled agenda.
In the end, the IDIOTS on both sides of the issue are usually preceded by the media IDIOTS fabricating/manipulating a story to fit a particular means to an end. And let's face it, the media is overwhemingly liberal, with very few news agencies, and posters such as yourself, reporting news without "commentary" designed to stear the conversation in a particular direction.
Sounds like a concealed carry guy stopped many more from dying.The break in gunfire allowed Meli to pull out his own gun, but he never took his eyes off the shooter.
"As I was going down to pull, I saw someone in the back of the Charlotte move, and I knew if I fired and missed, I could hit them," he said.
Meli took cover inside a nearby store. He never pulled the trigger. He stands by that decision.
"I'm not beating myself up cause I didn't shoot him," said Meli. "I know after he saw me, I think the last shot he fired was the one he used on himself."
Sounds like the guy is a responsible gun owner, his story should get more coverage.SeattleGriz wrote:Interesting read about the Oregon mall shooting that will most likely get very little coverage.
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Sounds like a concealed carry guy stopped many more from dying.The break in gunfire allowed Meli to pull out his own gun, but he never took his eyes off the shooter.
"As I was going down to pull, I saw someone in the back of the Charlotte move, and I knew if I fired and missed, I could hit them," he said.
Meli took cover inside a nearby store. He never pulled the trigger. He stands by that decision.
"I'm not beating myself up cause I didn't shoot him," said Meli. "I know after he saw me, I think the last shot he fired was the one he used on himself."
THe stories of all these victims should get coverage. It's sad. We know the names and can recognize the pictures of the mall killer, that nut in Tuscon and now this fucking kid but we can't put a face or name to the victims. These people aren't loners. They are rejects. They have been rejected socially and when they snap, they do so and attempt to go out making thier names infamous. It's a shame, really. We should be celebrating the teacher that shielded her students and the teacher that locked her room and read stories to the kids. The countless life events which have been selfishly robbed from 26 families should be the focus. It's a shame though that we will soon forget.BlueHen86 wrote:Sounds like the guy is a responsible gun owner, his story should get more coverage.SeattleGriz wrote:Interesting read about the Oregon mall shooting that will most likely get very little coverage.
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Sounds like a concealed carry guy stopped many more from dying.
The media is for profit.Cluck U wrote:BlueHen86 wrote:
How do you know this? The news? When you like what the media has to say to say you buy in hook line and sinker, when you don't you post examples of media fuck ups.
You ask for an intelligent discussion...yet you put forth idiotic posts like the one above.BlueHen86 wrote:It is sad that a tragedy like this brings out the idiots on both sides of the gun issue.
We deserve to be fucked (and shot) if we can't have an intellegent discussion on how to at least try to keep guns out of the hands of nuts.
What he posted were facts...the SEMI automatic...and the issue of the guns being STOLEN from the mother. Very few people object to FACTS being posted by the news folks. What they object to is when the FACTS are manipulated to fit a particular writer's agenda...often a hate filled agenda.
In the end, the IDIOTS on both sides of the issue are usually preceded by the media IDIOTS fabricating/manipulating a story to fit a particular means to an end. And let's face it, the media is overwhemingly liberal, with very few news agencies, and posters such as yourself, reporting news without "commentary" designed to stear the conversation in a particular direction.
The media caters to their audience, they know who is watching and they tell them what they want to hear. People want commentary in their news, that's why we get it. It's not just a liberal media thing, people that don't like the liberal media can easily turn to Fox (and based on what I hear about ratings, most do).kalm wrote:The media is for profit.Cluck U wrote:
You ask for an intelligent discussion...yet you put forth idiotic posts like the one above.
What he posted were facts...the SEMI automatic...and the issue of the guns being STOLEN from the mother. Very few people object to FACTS being posted by the news folks. What they object to is when the FACTS are manipulated to fit a particular writer's agenda...often a hate filled agenda.
In the end, the IDIOTS on both sides of the issue are usually preceded by the media IDIOTS fabricating/manipulating a story to fit a particular means to an end. And let's face it, the media is overwhemingly liberal, with very few news agencies, and posters such as yourself, reporting news without "commentary" designed to stear the conversation in a particular direction.
That is something people need to be reminded of from time to time.kalm wrote:The media is for profit.
89Hen wrote:That is something people need to be reminded of from time to time.kalm wrote:The media is for profit.
