Then apparently Obama is only planning on one term because, on three VERY BIG ticket items (bailouts, healthcare, immigration) he is bucking the national trend and attempting to convince 59% of the people they are wrong. .Skjellyfetti wrote:Promises kept: 123AZGrizFan wrote:
Obama said WHATEVER was necessary to get elected, then backtracked on half his promises after being elected. He could give a **** about accountability....he thinks HE alone knows what's right for the country....nevermind in many cases 55-60% of the country disagrees with them.
Promises broken: 24
Compromise: 40
Stalled: 84
In the works: 232
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And that's exactly my point. That's accountability. You don't get that with a one term limit. If you only have one term... just do what you want. Fuck the 59%.AZGrizFan wrote:Was watching "The American President" with Michael Douglas last night and he had a GREAT line: "You don't get reelected telling 59% of Americans that they're wrong".
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You KNOW you love it. I AM....the most interesting man in the world.Chizzang wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
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Obama said WHATEVER was necessary to get elected, then backtracked on half his promises after being elected. He could give a shit about accountability....he thinks HE alone knows what's right for the country....nevermind in many cases 55-60% of the country disagrees with them.
Was watching "The American President" with Michael Douglas last night and he had a GREAT line: "You don't get reelected telling 59% of Americans that they're wrong".
Obama could learn a thing or two by watching that movie.![]()
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Ugh... unfortunately (and I really hate it when this happens) but that post is spot on AZTelling people what they want to hear works great - and it always has
Republicans = Smaller government
It's never actually happened - not even once... but most people and probably even some liberals even believe that old myth because it's been repeated since Ronald Reagan every single day over and over
It all works...in the regular world we call it lying - in Politics it's called "Politics"
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Ok. And I'm pretty sure we weren't discussing the 2012 elections... but, you keep wanting to bring it up. What we were discussing is accountability and whether or not politicians are held accountable for their votes. They are. And you agree with me... but, you just want to argue about something else just so you can argue.AZGrizFan wrote:
Then apparently Obama is only planning on one term because, on three VERY BIG ticket items (bailouts, healthcare, immigration) he is bucking the national trend and attempting to convince 59% of the people they are wrong. .![]()
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I do not believe in term limits; even for Presidents. I believe that if someone wants to run for office and the People want to vote for them that's just the way it is. The People should not be denied the option of voting for who they want to vote for just because who they want to vote for has served for some particular duration.
However, I do believe it'd be better if we had a part time legislature. I don't think being a Congressman should be a career type job. Don't know exactly how to get to that though.
However, I do believe it'd be better if we had a part time legislature. I don't think being a Congressman should be a career type job. Don't know exactly how to get to that though.
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Oh, there's no doubt in my mind Obama will be held accountable. As were 60 of his compatriots about a month ago.Skjellyfetti wrote:Ok. And I'm pretty sure we weren't discussing the 2012 elections... but, you keep wanting to bring it up. What we were discussing is accountability and whether or not politicians are held accountable for their votes. They are. And you agree with me... but, you just want to argue about something else just so you can argue.AZGrizFan wrote:
Then apparently Obama is only planning on one term because, on three VERY BIG ticket items (bailouts, healthcare, immigration) he is bucking the national trend and attempting to convince 59% of the people they are wrong. .![]()
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