Presidential Debate Thread- #1

[JohnStOnge]

It's not just Politifact either. I wish I could find a Youtube video of a piece I saw during the Republican primaries where they were interviewing a couple of reporters on the beat following Trump rallies. They talked about how he stands up there and tells lie after lie then points to the reporters in the back and calls them the lying media. They were, like, stupified by the irony.

[JohnStOnge]

No, he couldn't because she does not lie nearly as much as he does. All you have to do is look at what the media say about fact checking the two. And that's what she would be doing. Telling the media to fact check him. They get into a "fact check him/her" contest and he's going to lose very badly.

Just look at the Politifact files on the two. If you ask the media which of the two lies more it's not going to be close. It's going to be Trump. And it's not just going to be that he lies more. It's going to be that he lies a LOT more. And that's what I would suggest she be doing. Calling him out when he lies then appealing to the media to fact check him. He can do the same if he wants. But it it comes to that he'll lose that fight. The media will end up saying he lies a lot more. And the media will be right.

[CAA Flagship]

He could just employ the same tactic against the Queen of Lies. It's a no win strategy for a sociopath such as herself.

No, he couldn't because she does not lie nearly as much as he does. All you have to do is look at what the media say about fact checking the two. And that's what she would be doing. Telling the media to fact check him. They get into a "fact check him/her" contest and he's going to lose very badly.

Why are you such a nimrod?
News flash: They BOTH lie. It's up to you, the voter, to evaluate the lies.

Again, weight the lies, John.
Trump lied about looking into casinos in Florida. Nobody was killed. Trump did not gain financially from the inquiry or the lie.
"Benghazi was caused by a video." People died because of a failed foreign policy and the lack of any response, and she, and the Dems, wanted to suppress the truth because of an upcoming election.

Weight them, John. Geesh.

[CAA Flagship]

Just look at the Politifact files on the two. If you ask the media which of the two lies more it's not going to be close. It's going to be Trump. And it's not just going to be that he lies more. It's going to be that he lies a LOT more. And that's what I would suggest she be doing. Calling him out when he lies then appealing to the media to fact check him. He can do the same if he wants. But it it comes to that he'll lose that fight. The media will end up saying he lies a lot more. And the media will be right.

You realize that "the media" that you are referencing has a liberal bias, right?

[Skjellyfetti]

Hillary demanded a step stool so that she can look taller?

Holy crap...she is the ultimate in image control...and JSO loves that sort of thing.

Trump ought to put that is his ads.

"Is Hillary going to demand a step stool every time she needs to step up to the world's leaders?"

The shorter person always fights for this.

Bush wanted something to stand on to debate against Kerry.

Ford wanted podia of different sizes against Carter.

Taller person looks more authoritative. I'm sure both sides requested a plethora of ridiculous shit.

Trump requested that the moderator not fact check the candidates' statements, etc.

[Grizalltheway]

No, he couldn't because she does not lie nearly as much as he does. All you have to do is look at what the media say about fact checking the two. And that's what she would be doing. Telling the media to fact check him. They get into a "fact check him/her" contest and he's going to lose very badly.

Why are you such a nimrod?
News flash: They BOTH lie. It's up to you, the voter, to evaluate the lies.

Again, weight the lies, John.
Trump lied about looking into casinos in Florida. Nobody was killed. Trump did not gain financially from the inquiry or the lie.
"Benghazi was caused by a video." People died because of a failed foreign policy and the lack of any response, and she, and the Dems, wanted to suppress the truth because of an upcoming election.

Weight them, John. Geesh.

Oh wow. Conks talking about people dying because of failed foreign policy.

[SDHornet]

Why are you such a nimrod?
News flash: They BOTH lie. It's up to you, the voter, to evaluate the lies.

Again, weight the lies, John.
Trump lied about looking into casinos in Florida. Nobody was killed. Trump did not gain financially from the inquiry or the lie.
"Benghazi was caused by a video." People died because of a failed foreign policy and the lack of any response, and she, and the Dems, wanted to suppress the truth because of an upcoming election.

Weight them, John. Geesh.

Oh wow. Conks talking about people dying because of failed foreign policy.

Right? This shit was supposed to end once W was gone...whoops....

[SDHornet]

No, he couldn't because she does not lie nearly as much as he does. All you have to do is look at what the media say about fact checking the two. And that's what she would be doing. Telling the media to fact check him. They get into a "fact check him/her" contest and he's going to lose very badly.

Why are you such a nimrod?

Rhetorical question?

[CAA Flagship]

Why are you such a nimrod?
News flash: They BOTH lie. It's up to you, the voter, to evaluate the lies.

Again, weight the lies, John.
Trump lied about looking into casinos in Florida. Nobody was killed. Trump did not gain financially from the inquiry or the lie.
"Benghazi was caused by a video." People died because of a failed foreign policy and the lack of any response, and she, and the Dems, wanted to suppress the truth because of an upcoming election.

Weight them, John. Geesh.

Oh wow. Conks talking about people dying because of failed foreign policy.

Hey dickintheass, we are talking about lying. Pay attention.

[SDHornet]

Oh wow. Conks talking about people dying because of failed foreign policy.

Hey dickintheass, we are talking about lying. Pay attention.

The last thing leftists should want is a discussion on foreign policy...specifically hilldogs failed foreign policy.

[Grizalltheway]

Oh wow. Conks talking about people dying because of failed foreign policy.

Hey dickintheass, we are talking about lying. Pay attention.

And?

[CAA Flagship]

Hey dickintheass, we are talking about lying. Pay attention.

And?

Hmmm. Let's see.
The Yankees are done, so baseball season is over.
The Redskins are 0-2 so NFL season is over.
ODU is 1-2 and it doesn't look good the rest of the way.
The Devils..........aha.......that's it. The Devils are tied for first. So there.

[OL FU]

I cannot imagine an event I want to watch more

[JohnStOnge]

No, he couldn't because she does not lie nearly as much as he does. All you have to do is look at what the media say about fact checking the two. And that's what she would be doing. Telling the media to fact check him. They get into a "fact check him/her" contest and he's going to lose very badly.

Why are you such a nimrod?
News flash: They BOTH lie. It's up to you, the voter, to evaluate the lies.

Again, weight the lies, John.
Trump lied about looking into casinos in Florida. Nobody was killed. Trump did not gain financially from the inquiry or the lie.
"Benghazi was caused by a video." People died because of a failed foreign policy and the lack of any response, and she, and the Dems, wanted to suppress the truth because of an upcoming election.

Weight them, John. Geesh.

That is such a bunch of crap. The guy has never been in the arena. No, he's never had any issues with foreign policy because he's never been in position to IMPACT foreign policies. But as a person he is clearly about as dishonest as dishonest gets. And, yes, he's more dishonest than Clinton is. He is a total flim flam man.

He HAS shown that he lies just about every time he opens his mouth. He is making his case for being President with a barrage of lies. He is doing things like touting his judgment while lying about positions he's taken in the past.

This crap of "weight" of lies is a bunch of nonsense. When you're talking about the overwhelming edge he has over Clinton in terms of false statements during this campaign it is just that: Overwhelming. To think he wouldn't continue to lie repeatedly if he WERE in position to be responsible for things is absurd.

[UNI88]

Why are you such a nimrod?
News flash: They BOTH lie. It's up to you, the voter, to evaluate the lies.

Again, weight the lies, John.
Trump lied about looking into casinos in Florida. Nobody was killed. Trump did not gain financially from the inquiry or the lie.
"Benghazi was caused by a video." People died because of a failed foreign policy and the lack of any response, and she, and the Dems, wanted to suppress the truth because of an upcoming election.

Weight them, John. Geesh.

That is such a bunch of crap. The guy has never been in the arena. No, he's never had any issues with foreign policy because he's never been in position to IMPACT foreign policies. But as a person he is clearly about as dishonest as dishonest gets. And, yes, he's more dishonest than Clinton is. He is a total flim flam man.

He HAS shown that he lies just about every time he opens his mouth. He is making his case for being President with a barrage of lies. He is doing things like touting his judgment while lying about positions he's taken in the past.

This crap of "weight" of lies is a bunch of nonsense. When you're talking about the overwhelming edge he has over Clinton in terms of false statements during this campaign it is just that: Overwhelming. To think he wouldn't continue to lie repeatedly if he WERE in position to be responsible for things is absurd.

So Trump and Hillary have the same number of major foreign policy victories (0). The only difference is that he wasn't in the "arena" and has had 0 failures as well while everything Hillary has touched seems to fail.

I don't disagree with you about Trump. He is a flim flam artist and a bombastic blowhard liar. Hillary's lies are more calculated and more difficult to prove. The weight or impact of the lies should be a factor. They both seem to lie for the sake of lying but Trump lies to inflate his ego while Hillary lies to save her caboose from an indictment. How can you say that it isn't important? Oh right, it isn't important because Hillary's lies can't be definitively proven so they must be true and further proof that Hillary is a paragon of virtue and the innocent victim of Conk smear campaigns. Open your eyes Jon, she's a slimy untrustworthy slug whose only goal is the accumulation of power. Trump isn't any better but don't try and make Hillary into something she isn't.

[kalm]

That is such a bunch of crap. The guy has never been in the arena. No, he's never had any issues with foreign policy because he's never been in position to IMPACT foreign policies. But as a person he is clearly about as dishonest as dishonest gets. And, yes, he's more dishonest than Clinton is. He is a total flim flam man.

He HAS shown that he lies just about every time he opens his mouth. He is making his case for being President with a barrage of lies. He is doing things like touting his judgment while lying about positions he's taken in the past.

This crap of "weight" of lies is a bunch of nonsense. When you're talking about the overwhelming edge he has over Clinton in terms of false statements during this campaign it is just that: Overwhelming. To think he wouldn't continue to lie repeatedly if he WERE in position to be responsible for things is absurd.

So Trump and Hillary have the same number of major foreign policy victories (0). The only difference is that he wasn't in the "arena" and has had 0 failures as well while everything Hillary has touched seems to fail.

I don't disagree with you about Trump. He is a flim flam artist and a bombastic blowhard liar. Hillary's lies are more calculated and more difficult to prove. The weight or impact of the lies should be a factor. They both seem to lie for the sake of lying but Trump lies to inflate his ego while Hillary lies to save her caboose from an indictment. How can you say that it isn't important? Oh right, it isn't important because Hillary's lies can't be definitively proven so they must be true and further proof that Hillary is a paragon of virtue and the innocent victim of Conk smear campaigns. Open your eyes Jon, she's a slimy untrustworthy slug whose only goal is the accumulation of power. Trump isn't any better but don't try and make Hillary into something she isn't.

John...this would be a really good time cut bait.

[Baldy]

Rah Rah...Sis Boom Bah--Hillary Hillary Hillary

JSO

[93henfan]

So Trump and Hillary have the same number of major foreign policy victories (0). The only difference is that he wasn't in the "arena" and has had 0 failures as well while everything Hillary has touched seems to fail.

I don't disagree with you about Trump. He is a flim flam artist and a bombastic blowhard liar. Hillary's lies are more calculated and more difficult to prove. The weight or impact of the lies should be a factor. They both seem to lie for the sake of lying but Trump lies to inflate his ego while Hillary lies to save her caboose from an indictment. How can you say that it isn't important? Oh right, it isn't important because Hillary's lies can't be definitively proven so they must be true and further proof that Hillary is a paragon of virtue and the innocent victim of Conk smear campaigns. Open your eyes Jon, she's a slimy untrustworthy slug whose only goal is the accumulation of power. Trump isn't any better but don't try and make Hillary into something she isn't.

[BDKJMU]

Zero chance of that, but liberals seem to be immune to it. She's like a dog whistle that only non-liberals can hear.

Ahem....

And why in the **** are they going up against MNF. This is America gawdammit!

There's no valid reason to have the debates outside of Tues-Thur.
Fri night is HS football
Sat night is college
Sun-Mon night is NFL.

There's 12 Tues-Thur nights in the 4 week period the debates are held. The fact that they are only using 1 of them, and having 2 of the debates on Sun-Mon nights, is mind boggling..

[DSUrocks07]

"Trump is a grotesque liar!!!"

"Well Hillary might say a couple untrue things..."

Of course JSO would call that a "nice editorial"

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[Ivytalk]

"Trump is a grotesque liar!!!"

"Well Hillary might say a couple untrue things..."

Of course JSO would call that a "nice editorial"

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That's why I stopped my subscription to the Joo York Times (Al Franken's phrase, actually) years ago. And Paul Krugman.

[SeattleGriz]

"Trump is a grotesque liar!!!"

"Well Hillary might say a couple untrue things..."

Of course JSO would call that a "nice editorial"

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That's why I stopped my subscription to the Joo York Times (Al Franken's phrase, actually) years ago. And Paul Krugman.

Maybe that and the fact Krugman has never met an economic prediction he didn't fuck up.

[CID1990]

"Trump is a grotesque liar!!!"

"Well Hillary might say a couple untrue things..."

Of course JSO would call that a "nice editorial"

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That's why I stopped my subscription to the Joo York Times (Al Franken's phrase, actually) years ago. And Paul Krugman.

Of course!

The grey lady wants Ivana and Donald's divorce records. Ivana's privacy be damned because, you know, he may have said something bad in the transcripts ABOUT A WOMAN!!! Could be disqualifying!

Judge having none of it

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/d ... z4L2D6Ccg3




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[89Hen]

If you ask the media which of the two lies more it's not going to be close. It's going to be Trump.

[BDKJMU]

Gennifer Flowers ‘agrees’ to sit front row at first debate
http://nypost.com/2016/09/24/gennifer-f ... st-debate/