"Alternative facts"

[CAA Flagship]

No, it really doesn't go beyond that. He was the first black President. The DC/Baltimore metropolitan area is 10 million people, of which about three million are negros. Include Amtrack and easy bus trips, you can tack on Philly, NYC, and Tidewater region of VA to add another five million negros. Of those eight million negros, you were able to get a crowd of 1.8 million people for the inauguration.

It does go beyond that. And I think you really know it. Obama was just WAY more popular going into his inauguration than Trump is now. And it isn't just Trump. The metro was busier for Bush as well.

And all Obama had to do was make a layup to improve the country's situation compared to the time of his first inauguration. He made the layup but then gave up a three pointer on the other end of the court while he celebrated.

[JohnStOnge]

As you know it goes way beyond that. In 2009 Obama went into his Inauguration with an estimated 78% of the population viewing him favorably vs. only 18% viewing him unfavorably (http://www.gallup.com/poll/201977/trump ... y-low.aspx). Trump went into his with an estimated 40% viewing him favorably vs. 55% viewing him unfavorably. Of COURSE there was more enthusiasm for Obama.

I get the impression that Trump and his worshipers want to potray this as a situation in which this guy is riding the wave of some kind of movement where he is the Champion of the American people and they're galvenized behind him. That's not the case. More people voted for the other major candidate. Trump is deeply unpopular. And majorities of the American people disagree with most of his high profile positions.

He is an artifact of 1) the Democrats having a candidate with an unbelievable number of problems and 2) the electoral college system. He is not the choice of most of the people and he's not viewed favorably by most of the people.

Glad you are admitting Hillary was a problem.

I've been saying Hillary was a problem for a long time. Way back during the Democratic Primaries I was saying that if I were the Democrats I would nominate Sanders given the two realistic choices they had. First of all, there was just the fact that she was under FBI investigation and had all those other issues as well. Secondly, while she was on average something like five points ahead of Trump and losing to some of the other Republican Candidates in the polls Sanders was up on Trump like 15 or 20 points and also blowing out all of the other Republican Candidates.

And as the general election approached I said a number of times that Trump had a chance to win because Clinton was SUCH a bad candidate in her own right.

But at least she's a grown up who isn't mentally ill. She would've been a better choice than Trump.

[Gil Dobie]

Glad you are admitting Hillary was a problem.

I've been saying Hillary was a problem for a long time. Way back during the Democratic Primaries I was saying that if I were the Democrats I wouldn't nominate Sanders given the two realistic choices they had. First of all, there was just the fact that she was under FBI investigation and had all those other issues as well. Secondly, while she was on average something five points ahead of Trump and losing to some of the other Republican Candidates in the polls Sanders was up on Trump like 15 or 20 points and also blowing out all of the other Republican Candidates.

And as the general election approached I said a number of times that Trump had a chance to win because Clinton was SUCH a bad candidate in her own right.

But at least she's a grown up who isn't mentally ill. She would've been a better choice than Trump.

I didn't see one as better than the other, but after the election the way the Clintonista's are acting like little children after they lost, makes me feel better about the Trump victory. He's a wake-up call to America.

[JohnStOnge]

It does go beyond that. And I think you really know it. Obama was just WAY more popular going into his inauguration than Trump is now. And it isn't just Trump. The metro was busier for Bush as well.

And all Obama had to do was make a layup to improve the country's situation compared to the time of his first inauguration. He made the layup but then gave up a three pointer on the other end of the court while he celebrated.

I'm not an Obama fan but he's not the reason the Republicans lost. If he'd been able to run again he'd have blown Trump out.

The problem for the Democrats is that Obama couldn't run again and the person they did run had all sorts of problems. Hell, I think they'd be controlling the White House right now if they'd run Sanders. I think he'd have pistol whipped Trump in a general election. But they didn't do that.

[CAA Flagship]

I've been saying Hillary was a problem for a long time. Way back during the Democratic Primaries I was saying that if I were the Democrats I wouldn't nominate Sanders given the two realistic choices they had. First of all, there was just the fact that she was under FBI investigation and had all those other issues as well. Secondly, while she was on average something five points ahead of Trump and losing to some of the other Republican Candidates in the polls Sanders was up on Trump like 15 or 20 points and also blowing out all of the other Republican Candidates.

And as the general election approached I said a number of times that Trump had a chance to win because Clinton was SUCH a bad candidate in her own right.

But at least she's a grown up who isn't mentally ill. She would've been a better choice than Trump.

I didn't see one as better than the other, but after the election the way the Clintonista's are acting like little children after they lost, makes me feel better about the Trump victory. He's a wake-up call to America.

And none of that matters either. What matters is policy. JSO has proven that he does not have the capacity to see through the BS and compare policies.

[CAA Flagship]

I'm not an Obama fan but he's not the reason the Republicans lost. If he'd been able to run again he'd have blown Trump out.

The problem for the Democrats is that Obama couldn't run again and the person they did run had all sorts of problems. Hell, I think they'd be controlling the White House right now if they'd run Sanders. I think he'd have pistol whipped Trump in a general election. But they didn't do that.

And if Kasich ran, he would have beaten Sanders because he would have won OH, IA, MI, WI, and PA as well.

[93henfan]

I'm not an Obama fan but he's not the reason the Republicans lost. If he'd been able to run again he'd have blown Trump out.

The problem for the Democrats is that Obama couldn't run again and the person they did run had all sorts of problems. Hell, I think they'd be controlling the White House right now if they'd run Sanders. I think he'd have pistol whipped Trump in a general election. But they didn't do that.

And if Kasich ran, he would have beaten Sanders because he would have won OH, IA, MI, WI, and PA as well.

[SDHornet]

JSO still in full retard meltdown mode.

Stupid of Trumpers to even bother disputing or even engaging in the Obama v Trump turnout. Obama's innaguration was a historic moment. Trump is just another white guy taking office.

If the Trumpers keep getting sucked in (trolled) to these weak as arguments they are going to get picked apart for the next 4 years.

@ 93's hilldogs inauguration meme.

[AZGrizFan]

As you know it goes way beyond that.... Asperger rant

No, it really doesn't go beyond that. He was the first black President. The DC/Baltimore metropolitan area is 10 million people, of which about three million are negros. Include Amtrack and easy bus trips, you can tack on Philly, NYC, and Tidewater region of VA to add another five million negros. Of those eight million negros, you were able to get a crowd of 1.8 million people for the inauguration.

So, if my math is correct, roughly 22% unemployment?

[YoUDeeMan]

As you know it goes way beyond that.... Asperger rant

No, it really doesn't go beyond that. He was the first black President. The DC/Baltimore metropolitan area is 10 million people, of which about three million are negros. Include Amtrack and easy bus trips, you can tack on Philly, NYC, and Tidewater region of VA to add another five million negros. Of those eight million negros, you were able to get a crowd of 1.8 million people for the inauguration.

Don't forget Trenton...and Wilmington...and Chester, PA. And Camden.

JSO...completely ignorant of the area.

[houndawg]

Glad you are admitting Hillary was a problem.

I've been saying Hillary was a problem for a long time. Way back during the Democratic Primaries I was saying that if I were the Democrats I would nominate Sanders given the two realistic choices they had. First of all, there was just the fact that she was under FBI investigation and had all those other issues as well. Secondly, while she was on average something like five points ahead of Trump and losing to some of the other Republican Candidates in the polls Sanders was up on Trump like 15 or 20 points and also blowing out all of the other Republican Candidates.

And as the general election approached I said a number of times that Trump had a chance to win because Clinton was SUCH a bad candidate in her own right.

But at least she's a grown up who isn't mentally ill. She would've been a better choice than Trump.

You're trying to steal my thunder, I saw Bernie coming long before you did. Bow down to the prescience of of 'dawg.

[houndawg]

JSO still in full retard meltdown mode.

Stupid of Trumpers to even bother disputing or even engaging in the Obama v Trump turnout. Obama's innaguration was a historic moment. Trump is just another white guy taking office.

If the Trumpers keep getting sucked in (trolled) to these weak as arguments they are going to get picked apart for the next 4 years.

@ 93's hilldogs inauguration meme.

That's why I'm going to love the next four years! Sean Spicer has already made the election worth it, and Cheeto is physically incapable of ignoring an insult...

This is going to be glorious.

[Ivytalk]

JSO still in full retard meltdown mode.

Stupid of Trumpers to even bother disputing or even engaging in the Obama v Trump turnout. Obama's innaguration was a historic moment. Trump is just another white guy taking office.

If the Trumpers keep getting sucked in (trolled) to these weak as arguments they are going to get picked apart for the next 4 years.

@ 93's hilldogs inauguration meme.

That's why I'm going to love the next four years! Sean Spicer has already made the election worth it, and Cheeto is physically incapable of ignoring an insult...

This is going to be glorious.

For once, I agree with Uncle Houndy. Gotta respect my elders.

[Ibanez]

JSO still in full retard meltdown mode.

Stupid of Trumpers to even bother disputing or even engaging in the Obama v Trump turnout. Obama's innaguration was a historic moment. Trump is just another white guy taking office.

If the Trumpers keep getting sucked in (trolled) to these weak as arguments they are going to get picked apart for the next 4 years.

@ 93's hilldogs inauguration meme.

That's why I'm going to love the next four years! Sean Spicer has already made the election worth it, and Cheeto is physically incapable of ignoring an insult...

This is going to be glorious.

I wonder how President Pence is going to act when his time comes.

[bandl]

WTF does this even mean?

Trump's press secretary says the inauguration was the largest in history.

When called out on this bullshit...


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Kellyanne Conway says Spicer was just using "alternative facts"

Just curious of what the 11:30 Trump picture looked like to compare Apples to Apples. I'm sure there was still more in the Obama picture, but just wanted to see apples to apples.

The DC Metro system is so inefficient and run ass-backwards that there is no way they could have added more than a few thousand people between in 26 minutes.
Maybe there are a few thousand people hiding behind buildings because they don't like their photo being taken by a helicopter or drone?

[andy7171]

Error.

You can say that again!

[Gil Dobie]

Just curious of what the 11:30 Trump picture looked like to compare Apples to Apples. I'm sure there was still more in the Obama picture, but just wanted to see apples to apples.

The DC Metro system is so inefficient and run ass-backwards that there is no way they could have added more than a few thousand people between in 26 minutes.
Maybe there are a few thousand people hiding behind buildings because they don't like their photo being taken by a helicopter or drone?

Where exactly were you shooting yesterday?

[bandl]

The DC Metro system is so inefficient and run ass-backwards that there is no way they could have added more than a few thousand people between in 26 minutes.
Maybe there are a few thousand people hiding behind buildings because they don't like their photo being taken by a helicopter or drone?

Where exactly were you shooting yesterday?

I was in VA/DC LAST weekend (1/13-1/17).

I was shooting in NY this weekend. I have witnesses!

[CID1990]

I give Spicer about 6 months before he resigns. He isn't going to want to trot out there every time Trump has a temper tantrum.

[bandl]

I give Spicer about 6 months before he resigns. He isn't going to want to trot out there every time Trump has a temper tantrum.

But Spicer seems to have his own temper tantrums.
I think he'll voluntarily last through the year. Unless he's fired.

[89Hen]

Stupid of Trumpers to even bother disputing or even engaging in the Obama v Trump turnout. Obama's innaguration was a historic moment. Trump is just another white guy taking office.

Yup, but beyond that it was a non-liberal white guy taking office.

1. Libs outnumber Cons by a GREAT margin in the immediate DC area.

2. Libs love them some marches, protests, circle-jerk gatherings

[89Hen]

I give Spicer about 6 months before he resigns. He isn't going to want to trot out there every time Trump has a temper tantrum.

But Spicer seems to have his own temper tantrums.
I think he'll voluntarily last through the year. Unless he's fired.

Yup again. He seems like the wrong person for this job. Surprisingly watched MTP yesterday (holy crap is Dodd a dick). Tom Barrack came on at the end with the panel and completely diffused the rhetoric with his calm delivery. That's the kind of guy who needs to be speaking.

[Ibanez]

WTF does this even mean?

Trump's press secretary says the inauguration was the largest in history.

When called out on this bullshit...


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Kellyanne Conway says Spicer was just using "alternative facts"

The problem I have with this, is how do I know that picture on the left wasn't taken at 10AM or 930AM? Am I supposed to trust Vox? I see that CNN did a gigapixel of the event but work is blocking the image.

[Skjellyfetti]

WTF does this even mean?

Trump's press secretary says the inauguration was the largest in history.

When called out on this bullshit...


...





Kellyanne Conway says Spicer was just using "alternative facts"

The problem I have with this, is how do I know that picture on the left wasn't taken at 10AM or 930AM? Am I supposed to trust Vox? I see that CNN did a gigapixel of the event but work is blocking the image.

Here's an entire timelapse by PBS. But, it's probably fake news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdantUf5tXg

[Grizalltheway]

The funny part about this is you guys having trouble believing that not that many people showed up to see a president with a 37% approval rating heading into office.