well where are you drawing that line then? Because many "liberals" of years past have spent the past four years sucking the collective dicks of the progressive movement to the point where supposed "adults" in the liberal community now act lock/stock/2 smoking barrels like a ctrl-left ANTIFA fuck. Hell, I have four sisters who USED to be compassionate liberals. Their TDS ate their brains away to the point where they now support riots, burning, looting, banning conservatives/Trump supporters from ever working again, etc., and everything else the ctrl-left stands for.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:52 pmThis might be correct for true liberals but the ctrl-left is illiberal. Liberals by definition are 1. willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas. and/or 2. relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise. Today's pseudo-progressives do not accept behavior or opinions different from their own and they do not promote individual rights, civil liberties or free enterprise.JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:53 pm
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Just because the MSM calls someone a liberal doesn't mean they really are one. There are very few people who are truly liberal left in DC.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:58 pmwell where are you drawing that line then? Because many "liberals" of years past have spent the past four years sucking the collective dicks of the progressive movement to the point where supposed "adults" in the liberal community now act lock/stock/2 smoking barrels like a ctrl-left ANTIFA fuck. Hell, I have four sisters who USED to be compassionate liberals. Their TDS ate their brains away to the point where they now support riots, burning, looting, banning conservatives/Trump supporters from ever working again, etc., and everything else the ctrl-left stands for.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:52 pm
This might be correct for true liberals but the ctrl-left is illiberal. Liberals by definition are 1. willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas. and/or 2. relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise. Today's pseudo-progressives do not accept behavior or opinions different from their own and they do not promote individual rights, civil liberties or free enterprise.
What is the reverse of TDS? The syndrome that caused social conservatives to overlook all of Trump's moral lapses and accept him as the 2nd coming? The syndrome that caused fiscal conservatives to put aside fiscal responsibility and go all in on tax cuts without corresponding spending cuts?
Too many on both sides have sold their souls and need to head down to the crossroads.
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It will probably be difficult for MAQA yahoos to overcome the Qult programming but they should give being rational & reasonable a try.
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I am fine with going with how people identify. I think that if you were to randomly select 2,000 people from the US population and just ask them if they identify as liberal or conservative you would have about 25% identifying as Liberal, about 35% identifying as Conservative, and about 40% identifying as Moderate. And I think that if you could administer IQ tests the ones that identified as Liberal would have the highest average, the ones that identify as being Moderates would have the second highest average, and the ones that identified as being Conservative would have the lowest average.
Again: I am a Conservative so that does not necessarily please me. But I think it's the truth. I think many of those who are willing to self identify as liberals are among the intellectual elite. Disproportionately so. There are, unfortunately, an awful lot of complete troglodytes among people who self identify as Conservative.
Definition of troglodyte: a person who is regarded as being deliberately ignorant or old-fashioned.
Again: I am a Conservative so that does not necessarily please me. But I think it's the truth. I think many of those who are willing to self identify as liberals are among the intellectual elite. Disproportionately so. There are, unfortunately, an awful lot of complete troglodytes among people who self identify as Conservative.
Definition of troglodyte: a person who is regarded as being deliberately ignorant or old-fashioned.
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My thoughts are pretty closely aligned with the definition provided earlier.
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I didn't even vote for Trump, but I don't like the way some people come across as thinking they are smarter or better than others because of who they voted for or how much schooling they had or perceived intelligence. In reality the Evangelicals voted prolife, and may said they held their noses and voted.JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:41 pm I am fine with going with how people identify. I think that if you were to randomly select 2,000 people from the US population and just ask them if they identify as liberal or conservative you would have about 25% identifying as Liberal, about 35% identifying as Conservative, and about 40% identifying as Moderate. And I think that if you could administer IQ tests the ones that identified as Liberal would have the highest average, the ones that identify as being Moderates would have the second highest average, and the ones that identified as being Conservative would have the lowest average.
Again: I am a Conservative so that does not necessarily please me. But I think it's the truth. I think many of those who are willing to self identify as liberals are among the intellectual elite. Disproportionately so. There are, unfortunately, an awful lot of complete troglodytes among people who self identify as Conservative.
Definition of troglodyte: a person who is regarded as being deliberately ignorant or old-fashioned.

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We don’t “overlook” them. We vote IN SPITE of them. And I’ve reached a point where I know spending cuts are NEVER coming, so I’m keeping as much of MY money as they’ll legally allow.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:44 pmJust because the MSM calls someone a liberal doesn't mean they really are one. There are very few people who are truly liberal left in DC.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:58 pm
well where are you drawing that line then? Because many "liberals" of years past have spent the past four years sucking the collective dicks of the progressive movement to the point where supposed "adults" in the liberal community now act lock/stock/2 smoking barrels like a ctrl-left ANTIFA fuck. Hell, I have four sisters who USED to be compassionate liberals. Their TDS ate their brains away to the point where they now support riots, burning, looting, banning conservatives/Trump supporters from ever working again, etc., and everything else the ctrl-left stands for.
What is the reverse of TDS? The syndrome that caused social conservatives to overlook all of Trump's moral lapses and accept him as the 2nd coming? The syndrome that caused fiscal conservatives to put aside fiscal responsibility and go all in on tax cuts without corresponding spending cuts?
Too many on both sides have sold their souls and need to head down to the crossroads.
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Guaranteed that’s true for the vast majority of them, Gil.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:42 pmI didn't even vote for Trump, but I don't like the way some people come across as thinking they are smarter or better than others because of who they voted for or how much schooling they had or perceived intelligence. In reality the Evangelicals voted prolife, and may said they held their noses and voted.JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:41 pm I am fine with going with how people identify. I think that if you were to randomly select 2,000 people from the US population and just ask them if they identify as liberal or conservative you would have about 25% identifying as Liberal, about 35% identifying as Conservative, and about 40% identifying as Moderate. And I think that if you could administer IQ tests the ones that identified as Liberal would have the highest average, the ones that identify as being Moderates would have the second highest average, and the ones that identified as being Conservative would have the lowest average.
Again: I am a Conservative so that does not necessarily please me. But I think it's the truth. I think many of those who are willing to self identify as liberals are among the intellectual elite. Disproportionately so. There are, unfortunately, an awful lot of complete troglodytes among people who self identify as Conservative.
Definition of troglodyte: a person who is regarded as being deliberately ignorant or old-fashioned.
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Re: Psychology of Trump Supporters
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Hey, there are plenty of single-issue voters out there. We only have two parties worth voting for (unless you're going to protest vote, and for a single-issue voter that makes no sense), so you're going to end up picking one of the two, and for single-issue voters, you pick the one who's for your issue. Evangelicals looked weird voting for Trump and his less-than Christian ways just like National Organization for Women looked weird backing Clinton despite his rampant sexual harassment and potentially even assault. It's a two party system, it ain't perfect.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:17 pmGuaranteed that’s true for the vast majority of them, Gil.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:42 pm
I didn't even vote for Trump, but I don't like the way some people come across as thinking they are smarter or better than others because of who they voted for or how much schooling they had or perceived intelligence. In reality the Evangelicals voted prolife, and may said they held their noses and voted.![]()
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If you’re single issue is kindness, your’re fucked.GannonFan wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:50 amHey, there are plenty of single-issue voters out there. We only have two parties worth voting for (unless you're going to protest vote, and for a single-issue voter that makes no sense), so you're going to end up picking one of the two, and for single-issue voters, you pick the one who's for your issue. Evangelicals looked weird voting for Trump and his less-than Christian ways just like National Organization for Women looked weird backing Clinton despite his rampant sexual harassment and potentially even assault. It's a two party system, it ain't perfect.
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Thankfully I have two issues - kindness and humor, so I can swing to either party depending on where the jokes are.kalm wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:20 amIf you’re single issue is kindness, your’re fucked.GannonFan wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:50 am
Hey, there are plenty of single-issue voters out there. We only have two parties worth voting for (unless you're going to protest vote, and for a single-issue voter that makes no sense), so you're going to end up picking one of the two, and for single-issue voters, you pick the one who's for your issue. Evangelicals looked weird voting for Trump and his less-than Christian ways just like National Organization for Women looked weird backing Clinton despite his rampant sexual harassment and potentially even assault. It's a two party system, it ain't perfect.
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Speaking of, I just introduced my 19 year old to British Parliamentary arguments. I forgot how entertaining those are.
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Indeed, the quick back and forth is fantastic, plus they all use British accents which just adds to the pageantry.
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....right up til they perp walk him out of the White House?
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Oh it’ll go on much longer than that.
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You can quit fapping to the thought of that, because its not gonna happen.
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Trump rally in DC yesterday:






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I'm not going to bang Sharon Stone either but I see no reason to stopping fapping to that thought.
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estimated 11,600 showed for the MillionMagaMarch..... less than half the size of a Bernie crowd.
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AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:58 pmwell where are you drawing that line then? Because many "liberals" of years past have spent the past four years sucking the collective dicks of the progressive movement to the point where supposed "adults" in the liberal community now act lock/stock/2 smoking barrels like a ctrl-left ANTIFA fuck. Hell, I have four sisters who USED to be compassionate liberals. Their TDS ate their brains away to the point where they now support riots, burning, looting, banning conservatives/Trump supporters from ever working again, etc., and everything else the ctrl-left stands for.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:52 pm
This might be correct for true liberals but the ctrl-left is illiberal. Liberals by definition are 1. willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas. and/or 2. relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise. Today's pseudo-progressives do not accept behavior or opinions different from their own and they do not promote individual rights, civil liberties or free enterprise.
Nobody cares about that junkie loser anymore.
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1). Antifa is a force to be reckoned with considering all those liberals who have joined. Dedicated school teacher and mother of three by day, deadly anarchist come night!!!AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:58 pmwell where are you drawing that line then? Because many "liberals" of years past have spent the past four years sucking the collective dicks of the progressive movement to the point where supposed "adults" in the liberal community now act lock/stock/2 smoking barrels like a ctrl-left ANTIFA fuck. Hell, I have four sisters who USED to be compassionate liberals. Their TDS ate their brains away to the point where they now support riots, burning, looting, banning conservatives/Trump supporters from ever working again, etc., and everything else the ctrl-left stands for.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:52 pm
This might be correct for true liberals but the ctrl-left is illiberal. Liberals by definition are 1. willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas. and/or 2. relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise. Today's pseudo-progressives do not accept behavior or opinions different from their own and they do not promote individual rights, civil liberties or free enterprise.
2). Your sisters sound like fine Montana women. Could probably drink most men under the table too.
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You mean estimated 116,000. Probably were way more than that..
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Re: Psychology of Trump Supporters
We already know that crowd sizes don't = popularity/enthusiasm or success for a candidate. Trump had yuge rallies and still lost by 5.7M votes to an old man with dementia. Ouch!!
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