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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:49 pm WTF? Souns like something out of the old East Germany, or Nazi Germany, or some other fascist, communist, or authoritarian regime.
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Anyone ever do a search on Jon or BDK's posts for the words 'Nazis' 'Communists' and 'Fascists'? It would probably take the site down.
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If you like numbers....

From an old high school buddy who’s in cyber-security and data analytics. He’s been posting these for a few weeks now. They’re taken from worldometer, regional health districts, and state official releases. It’s been very predictive.

Good afternoon, here are today's numbers.

1) I did another upgrade to the report format by adding three columns as follows:

a) Estimated Population for Each Jurisdiction

b) Population Density - People per Square Kilometer. I used Metric because it made the
report comparable across all jurisdictions, yes we Americans needs to get over ourselves.

c) Infection Rate Ranking - In each report each jurisdiction is now ranked from 1 to lowest of the rate of infection on a per capita basis.

Hopefully these additions will help the reader to further place each jurisdiction by itself and relative to its peers groups and the globe a context on the nuance of what is happening. For interpretation sake a suggestion would be to focus less on any one of the absolute numbers themselves, but rather try to focus on or discern what story do they tell when taken together and compared to each other based on the readers own knowledge, data sets and experience. However, the absolute numbers can be useful in other ways as a thread to pull on to figure out what is going on in each individual country and why. Just something to think about as one approaches the reports.

2) Idaho is on the verge of full wildfire status which is interesting given how dispersed the population is.

3) California, Oregon, Washington and British Columbia have all flattened their curves hard.

4) For perspective the North American Report (USA + CDN) Covers 70.75% of the combined population.

5) The Global Report covers 79.23% of the entire Global Population.

6) Sweden is not showing signs of exploding, its curves are not good with a 10% to 13% day over day increase, which means they are ripe to take off if the right accelerator - super spreader hits, but there may be some to the Swedish Social Distancing.

7) Europe seems to be crest across the board, hopefully that will be the USA and Canada in three weeks, I fear it will be more like 6 though.

8) Please provide questions, feedback, questions and criticisms, looking to improve this anyway I can.

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:22 pm
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Anyone ever do a search on Jon or BDK's posts for the words 'Nazis' 'Communists' and 'Fascists'? It would probably take the site down.
Neither of them actually know what a Nazi is they just regurgitate CNN talking points like a programmed robot

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kalm wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:29 pm
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:22 pm Neither of them actually know what a Nazi is they just regurgitate CNN talking points like a programmed robot

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kalm wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:29 pm
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:22 pm Neither of them actually know what a Nazi is they just regurgitate CNN talking points like a programmed robot

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AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:02 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:29 pm

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kalm wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:28 pm If you like numbers....

From an old high school buddy who’s in cyber-security and data analytics. He’s been posting these for a few weeks now. They’re taken from worldometer, regional health districts, and state official releases. It’s been very predictive.

Good afternoon, here are today's numbers.

1) I did another upgrade to the report format by adding three columns as follows:

a) Estimated Population for Each Jurisdiction

b) Population Density - People per Square Kilometer. I used Metric because it made the
report comparable across all jurisdictions, yes we Americans needs to get over ourselves.

c) Infection Rate Ranking - In each report each jurisdiction is now ranked from 1 to lowest of the rate of infection on a per capita basis.

Hopefully these additions will help the reader to further place each jurisdiction by itself and relative to its peers groups and the globe a context on the nuance of what is happening. For interpretation sake a suggestion would be to focus less on any one of the absolute numbers themselves, but rather try to focus on or discern what story do they tell when taken together and compared to each other based on the readers own knowledge, data sets and experience. However, the absolute numbers can be useful in other ways as a thread to pull on to figure out what is going on in each individual country and why. Just something to think about as one approaches the reports.

2) Idaho is on the verge of full wildfire status which is interesting given how dispersed the population is.

3) California, Oregon, Washington and British Columbia have all flattened their curves hard.

4) For perspective the North American Report (USA + CDN) Covers 70.75% of the combined population.

5) The Global Report covers 79.23% of the entire Global Population.

6) Sweden is not showing signs of exploding, its curves are not good with a 10% to 13% day over day increase, which means they are ripe to take off if the right accelerator - super spreader hits, but there may be some to the Swedish Social Distancing.

7) Europe seems to be crest across the board, hopefully that will be the USA and Canada in three weeks, I fear it will be more like 6 though.

8) Please provide questions, feedback, questions and criticisms, looking to improve this anyway I can.

I've been using the worldometer site for a while now. It's very good. Otherwise: Note the per capita number for New Orleans as compared to the other locations listed.

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dbackjon wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:35 pm
93henfan wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:30 pm

No. His link says "scientists don't rule out".

If Dback is going to call him "Spandos", then we need proof that it didn't happen.

For instance, when somebody says that we didn't land on the moon, then you just point them to proof that we did, like the reflectors that were left on the moon that scientists use for experiments, etc.

Where's the proof that this wasn't a Chinese coverup?
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 175442.htm

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Summary:
An analysis of public genome sequence data from SARS-CoV-2 and related viruses found no evidence that the virus was made in a laboratory or otherwise engineered.

The analysis of public genome sequence data from SARS-CoV-2 and related viruses found no evidence that the virus was made in a laboratory or otherwise engineered.

"By comparing the available genome sequence data for known coronavirus strains, we can firmly determine that SARS-CoV-2 originated through natural processes," said Kristian Andersen, PhD, an associate professor of immunology and microbiology at Scripps Research and corresponding author on the paper.

In addition to Andersen, authors on the paper, "The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2," include Robert F. Garry, of Tulane University; Edward Holmes, of the University of Sydney; Andrew Rambaut, of University of Edinburgh; W. Ian Lipkin, of Columbia University.

Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses that can cause illnesses ranging widely in severity. The first known severe illness caused by a coronavirus emerged with the 2003 Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) epidemic in China. A second outbreak of severe illness began in 2012 in Saudi Arabia with the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS).
If this is a bioweapon, the Commies will definitely make sure that info never sees the light of day. Hell anyone with knowledge has probably already been disappeared. But that doesn't rule out that this was a virus being studied in the lab that got out because the Commies suck at handling these kinds of things. This can come from a lab and not be a bioweapon, those two things are not mutually exclusive.
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dbackjon wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:35 pm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 175442.htm

Scripps Research Institute
Summary:
An analysis of public genome sequence data from SARS-CoV-2 and related viruses found no evidence that the virus was made in a laboratory or otherwise engineered.

The analysis of public genome sequence data from SARS-CoV-2 and related viruses found no evidence that the virus was made in a laboratory or otherwise engineered.

"By comparing the available genome sequence data for known coronavirus strains, we can firmly determine that SARS-CoV-2 originated through natural processes," said Kristian Andersen, PhD, an associate professor of immunology and microbiology at Scripps Research and corresponding author on the paper.

In addition to Andersen, authors on the paper, "The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2," include Robert F. Garry, of Tulane University; Edward Holmes, of the University of Sydney; Andrew Rambaut, of University of Edinburgh; W. Ian Lipkin, of Columbia University.

Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses that can cause illnesses ranging widely in severity. The first known severe illness caused by a coronavirus emerged with the 2003 Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) epidemic in China. A second outbreak of severe illness began in 2012 in Saudi Arabia with the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS).
Methinks you didn't read the Washington Post article that SDH posted. The issue isn't that it might be man-made. In fact, the article says nobody of substance, including US Government intelligence and medical experts, believe that.

The article simply wonders if the release of the bat coronavirus could have been an accident by the Chinese.

Since you didn't read the article and simply had an instant name-calling twitch when you saw the headline, I'll quote a portion for your lazy ass:
To be clear: U.S. intelligence officials think there’s no evidence whatsoever that the coronavirus was created in a laboratory as a potential bioweapon. Solid scientific research demonstrates that the virus wasn’t engineered by humans and that it originated in bats.

But how did the outbreak occur? Solving this medical mystery is important to prevent future pandemics. What’s increasingly clear is that the initial “origin story” — that the virus was spread by people who ate contaminated animals at the Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan — is shaky.

There’s a competing theory — of an accidental lab release of bat coronavirus — that scientists have been puzzling about for weeks. Less than 300 yards from the seafood market is the Wuhan branch of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention. Researchers from that facility and the nearby Wuhan Institute of Virology have posted articles about collecting bat coronaviruses from around China, for study to prevent future illness. Did one of those samples leak, or was hazardous waste deposited in a place where it could spread?
Thanks 93 you nailed it

The evidence is growing that this may have been an accidental release from a Wuhan lab studying coronavirus reservoirs in bat populations

Somebody said “good science, bad safety” ... given that the wet market that was blamed actually wasn’t selling the culprit bats (it was selling pangolins though... probably tiger dicks and rhino horns too) .... the lab in question is literally about 500 meters from the wet market

AND - the “bat lady” virologist who worked there and speculated in a paper that the virus could have come from her lab?

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CID1990 wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:01 pm
93henfan wrote:
Methinks you didn't read the Washington Post article that SDH posted. The issue isn't that it might be man-made. In fact, the article says nobody of substance, including US Government intelligence and medical experts, believe that.

The article simply wonders if the release of the bat coronavirus could have been an accident by the Chinese.

Since you didn't read the article and simply had an instant name-calling twitch when you saw the headline, I'll quote a portion for your lazy ass:
Thanks 93 you nailed it

The evidence is growing that this may have been an accidental release from a Wuhan lab studying coronavirus reservoirs in bat populations

Somebody said “good science, bad safety” ... given that the wet market that was blamed actually wasn’t selling the culprit bats (it was selling pangolins though... probably tiger dicks and rhino horns too) .... the lab in question is literally about 500 meters from the wet market

AND - the “bat lady” virologist who worked there and speculated in a paper that the virus could have come from her lab?

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kalm wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:28 pm If you like numbers....

From an old high school buddy who’s in cyber-security and data analytics. He’s been posting these for a few weeks now. They’re taken from worldometer, regional health districts, and state official releases. It’s been very predictive.

Good afternoon, here are today's numbers.

1) I did another upgrade to the report format by adding three columns as follows:

a) Estimated Population for Each Jurisdiction

b) Population Density - People per Square Kilometer. I used Metric because it made the
report comparable across all jurisdictions, yes we Americans needs to get over ourselves.

c) Infection Rate Ranking - In each report each jurisdiction is now ranked from 1 to lowest of the rate of infection on a per capita basis.

Hopefully these additions will help the reader to further place each jurisdiction by itself and relative to its peers groups and the globe a context on the nuance of what is happening. For interpretation sake a suggestion would be to focus less on any one of the absolute numbers themselves, but rather try to focus on or discern what story do they tell when taken together and compared to each other based on the readers own knowledge, data sets and experience. However, the absolute numbers can be useful in other ways as a thread to pull on to figure out what is going on in each individual country and why. Just something to think about as one approaches the reports.

2) Idaho is on the verge of full wildfire status which is interesting given how dispersed the population is.

3) California, Oregon, Washington and British Columbia have all flattened their curves hard.

4) For perspective the North American Report (USA + CDN) Covers 70.75% of the combined population.

5) The Global Report covers 79.23% of the entire Global Population.

6) Sweden is not showing signs of exploding, its curves are not good with a 10% to 13% day over day increase, which means they are ripe to take off if the right accelerator - super spreader hits, but there may be some to the Swedish Social Distancing.

7) Europe seems to be crest across the board, hopefully that will be the USA and Canada in three weeks, I fear it will be more like 6 though.

8) Please provide questions, feedback, questions and criticisms, looking to improve this anyway I can.

I'd appreciate a link. Looks like interesting data.
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bobbythekidd wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:22 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:28 pm If you like numbers....

From an old high school buddy who’s in cyber-security and data analytics. He’s been posting these for a few weeks now. They’re taken from worldometer, regional health districts, and state official releases. It’s been very predictive.

Good afternoon, here are today's numbers.

1) I did another upgrade to the report format by adding three columns as follows:

a) Estimated Population for Each Jurisdiction

b) Population Density - People per Square Kilometer. I used Metric because it made the
report comparable across all jurisdictions, yes we Americans needs to get over ourselves.

c) Infection Rate Ranking - In each report each jurisdiction is now ranked from 1 to lowest of the rate of infection on a per capita basis.

Hopefully these additions will help the reader to further place each jurisdiction by itself and relative to its peers groups and the globe a context on the nuance of what is happening. For interpretation sake a suggestion would be to focus less on any one of the absolute numbers themselves, but rather try to focus on or discern what story do they tell when taken together and compared to each other based on the readers own knowledge, data sets and experience. However, the absolute numbers can be useful in other ways as a thread to pull on to figure out what is going on in each individual country and why. Just something to think about as one approaches the reports.

2) Idaho is on the verge of full wildfire status which is interesting given how dispersed the population is.

3) California, Oregon, Washington and British Columbia have all flattened their curves hard.

4) For perspective the North American Report (USA + CDN) Covers 70.75% of the combined population.

5) The Global Report covers 79.23% of the entire Global Population.

6) Sweden is not showing signs of exploding, its curves are not good with a 10% to 13% day over day increase, which means they are ripe to take off if the right accelerator - super spreader hits, but there may be some to the Swedish Social Distancing.

7) Europe seems to be crest across the board, hopefully that will be the USA and Canada in three weeks, I fear it will be more like 6 though.

8) Please provide questions, feedback, questions and criticisms, looking to improve this anyway I can.

I'd appreciate a link. Looks like interesting data.
I actually posted the google docs link but it’s apparently set up to display the doc instead of the link if that makes sense. It’s not a made for public source but I can assure you the numbers and time he has spent are solid and have been accurate all along.
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Friend that works at Walmart in west metro got sent home to quarantine, 52 total employees from that store quarantined. One Positive test at the store.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:47 pm
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Starting to think my family had mild cases of COVID. Just after all this really took off, everyone in our family went down with fatigue and diarrhea. Started with my oldest son and went through the entire family in about 36-48 hours total.

I chalked it up to something else, but now am seeing where they are saying mild cases present as diarrhea.

Maybe I'm just trying to be special, but in all my instances of a father with three kids, I've never caught any gastro type illnesses from my kids, except in this instance.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:59 am Starting to think my family had mild cases of COVID. Just after all this really took off, everyone in our family went down with fatigue and diarrhea. Started with my oldest son and went through the entire family in about 36-48 hours total.

I chalked it up to something else, but now am seeing where they are saying mild cases present as diarrhea.

Maybe I'm just trying to be special, but in all my instances of a father with three kids, I've never caught any gastro type illnesses from my kids, except in this instance.
There is a test to see if people have had it. Mayo Clinic is treating patients with plasma from people that have recovered.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:40 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:59 am Starting to think my family had mild cases of COVID. Just after all this really took off, everyone in our family went down with fatigue and diarrhea. Started with my oldest son and went through the entire family in about 36-48 hours total.

I chalked it up to something else, but now am seeing where they are saying mild cases present as diarrhea.

Maybe I'm just trying to be special, but in all my instances of a father with three kids, I've never caught any gastro type illnesses from my kids, except in this instance.
There is a test to see if people have had it. Mayo Clinic is treating patients with plasma from people that have recovered.
I'd donate plasma if it helped. Hell, when my wife and I first got married, we donated plasma for grocery money.

Man that was a long time ago.
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Just got back from a Walmart run.

Observation:

Black shoppers with masks ~ 70% (n = 20ish)
White shoppers with masks ~ 15% (n = 80ish)
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Joe Biden supports the Trump China travel ban...35 days after it was called racist and xenophobic by most Democrats...

Joe Biden's campaign said Friday the former vice president supports President Donald Trump's January 31 decision to ban foreign nationals who had been in China within the previous 14 days from entering the United States.

"Joe Biden supports travel bans that are guided by medical experts, advocated by public health officials, and backed by a full strategy," Kate Bedingfeld, Biden's deputy campaign manager, told CNN. "Science supported this ban, therefore he did too."

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CAA Flagship wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:48 am Just got back from a Walmart run.

Observation:

Black shoppers with masks ~ 70% (n = 20ish)
White shoppers with masks ~ 15% (n = 80ish)
I went to Costco yesterday and this old couple made face shields out of an old plastic food container. The one the husband was wearing still had the UPC on it.

If I wasn't lazy, I'd post the photo.
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Col Hogan wrote:Joe Biden supports the Trump China travel ban...35 days after it was called racist and xenophobic by most Democrats...

Joe Biden's campaign said Friday the former vice president supports President Donald Trump's January 31 decision to ban foreign nationals who had been in China within the previous 14 days from entering the United States.

"Joe Biden supports travel bans that are guided by medical experts, advocated by public health officials, and backed by a full strategy," Kate Bedingfeld, Biden's deputy campaign manager, told CNN. "Science supported this ban, therefore he did too."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/politics ... index.html
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