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Unpopular Opinion: I think we can take the field of donk candidates so far as a tacit admission that Democrats understand that being a woman is an advantage in presidential politics, but of course we can't speak that truth publicly lest we piss off the intersectionality police.

There's far more people out there that think electing a woman president should be a priority than there are people that wouldn't vote for a woman, and of course criticisms of candidates can be deflected as supposed sexism that no one would give to male candidates.
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Pwns wrote:Unpopular Opinion: I think we can take the field of donk candidates so far as a tacit admission that Democrats understand that being a woman is an advantage in presidential politics, but of course we can't speak that truth publicly lest we piss off the intersectionality police.

There's far more people out there that think electing a woman president should be a priority than there are people that wouldn't vote for a woman, and of course criticisms of candidates can be deflected as supposed sexism that no one would give to male candidates.
Yet, even with those advantages and having all that experience, Hildabeast still got beat by a novice.


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I love how all the non Native Americans are calling Trump racist for using the term Pocahontas, when it seems the Native American's don't really care about the name, but care about Warren lying instead. Shocker.
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Good article on Buttigieg and the changing generational landscape. Could a gay millennial beat Trump?

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Klobuchar announces her candidacy. Talks about among other things combating global warming...in the middle of a blizzard.. :lol:
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Every single candidate who has announced so far has some oppo on them out there making the rounds. This thing is going to be a vicious sprint to the left

Before it’s over they might be accusing each other of having small hands
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BDKJMU wrote:Klobuchar announces her candidacy. Talks about among other things combating global warming...in the middle of a blizzard.. :lol:
https://www.usatoday.com/picture-galler ... 832325002/
I think we've gotten for the point where most people understand that an occurrence of wintry weather does not contradict the climate change hypothesis.

I think we are still in a time where the climate change issue is not a big winner for Democrats. But I think public opinion on that issue, as is the case with many other issues, evolving in the Democrats' favor. I think a day will come up when Republicans wake up and realize they missed the train.

That does not mean I support drastic action to curtail fossil fuel use. I'm just making an observation with respect to what's happening. More and more the Republican Party is becoming the Party of where the culture was in the past while the Democrat Party is becoming where the culture is and will be in the future.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Klobuchar announces her candidacy. Talks about among other things combating global warming...in the middle of a blizzard.. :lol:
https://www.usatoday.com/picture-galler ... 832325002/
I think we've gotten for the point where most people understand that an occurrence of wintry weather does not contradict the climate change hypothesis.

I think we are still in a time where the climate change issue is not a big winner for Democrats. But I think public opinion on that issue, as is the case with many other issues, evolving in the Democrats' favor. I think a day will come up when Republicans wake up and realize they missed the train.

That does not mean I support drastic action to curtail fossil fuel use. I'm just making an observation with respect to what's happening. More and more the Republican Party is becoming the Party of where the culture was in the past while the Democrat Party is becoming where the culture is and will be in the future.
Most...which doesn’t include BDK. :lol:
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JohnStOnge wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Klobuchar announces her candidacy. Talks about among other things combating global warming...in the middle of a blizzard.. :lol:
https://www.usatoday.com/picture-galler ... 832325002/
I think we've gotten for the point where most people understand that an occurrence of wintry weather does not contradict the climate change hypothesis.

I think we are still in a time where the climate change issue is not a big winner for Democrats. But I think public opinion on that issue, as is the case with many other issues, evolving in the Democrats' favor. I think a day will come up when Republicans wake up and realize they missed the train.

That does not mean I support drastic action to curtail fossil fuel use. I'm just making an observation with respect to what's happening. More and more the Republican Party is becoming the Party of where the culture was in the past while the Democrat Party is becoming where the culture is and will be in the future.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
I think we've gotten for the point where most people understand that an occurrence of wintry weather does not contradict the climate change hypothesis.

I think we are still in a time where the climate change issue is not a big winner for Democrats. But I think public opinion on that issue, as is the case with many other issues, evolving in the Democrats' favor. I think a day will come up when Republicans wake up and realize they missed the train.

That does not mean I support drastic action to curtail fossil fuel use. I'm just making an observation with respect to what's happening. More and more the Republican Party is becoming the Party of where the culture was in the past while the Democrat Party is becoming where the culture is and will be in the future.
Most...which doesn’t include BDK. :lol:
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Most...which doesn’t include BDK. :lol:
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What’s awesome is you fail to recognize the irony of this post. :clap:
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No I don’t. :roll:
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Current scorecard: "200+ individuals have filed with the Federal Election Commission to run for president in the Democratic Party primary, as of April 25, 2019".
"the candidates in this section have held public office, been included in a minimum of five independent national polls or have otherwise received substantial coverage
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Announced
Dates they officially declared their candidacy:
1. 1/11/19 Tulsi Gabbard, 38, Rep HI 2013-present.
2. 2/9/19 Pocahontas, 70, Sen MA 2013-present.
3. 2/10/19 Amy Klochbar, 59, Sen MN, 2007-present.
4. 2/19/19 Bernie Sanders, 78, Rep VT 91-2007; Sen VT 2007-present.
5. 4/14/19 Peter Buttigieg, 38, Mayor of South Bend, ND 2012-present, 1st openly gay donk candidate.
6. 4/25/19 Biden, 77, former DE Senator & VP.
7. 7/9/19 Tom Steyer, 62, hedge fund manager.
8. 11/21/19 Nanny Bloomberg, 77, Mayor New York City 2002-2013.

Withdrew:
1. Richard Ojeda, 49, retired Army major & former WV state senator 2016-2019. Announced candidacy 11/11/18, withdrew 1/25.
2. Eric Swalwell, 39, Rep CA 2013-present. Announced candidacy 4/8, withdrew 7/8.
3. Mike Gravel, 89, former AK Senator. Announced candidacy 4/2, withdrew 8/6.
4. John Hickenlooper, 68, Mayor of Denver (2003–2011), Gov of Colorado (2011–2019).Announced candidacy 4/2, withdrew 8/15.
5. Jay Inslee, 69, Gov WA 2013-present. Announced candidacy 3/1, withdrew 8/21.
6. Seth Moulton, 41, Rep MA 2015-current. Announced candidacy 3/1, withdrew 8/23.
7. Kirsten Gillibrand, 53, Rep NY 2007-2009, Sen NY 2009-present. Announced candidacy 1/15, withdrew 8/28.
8. Bill De Blasio, 58, Mayor NYC 2014-present. Announced candidacy 5/16, withdrew 9/20.
9. Tim Ryan, 46, Rep OH 2003-present. Announced candidacy 4/4, withdrew 10/24 .
10. Robert O'Rourke, 47, Rep El Paso 2013-2019. Announced candidacy 3/14, withdrew 11/1 .
11. Wayne Messam, 45, Mayor of Miramar, FL, 2015-present. Announced candidacy 3/28, withdrew 11/19.
12. Joe Sestak, 68, former Navy admiral & Rep PA 2007-2011. Announced candidacy 6/23, withdrew 12/1.
13. Steve Bullock, 53, Gov Montana 2013-present. Announced candidacy 5/14, withdrew 12/2.
14. Kamala Harris, 55, Sen CA 2017-present. Announced candidacy 1/21, withdrew 12/3.
15. Julian Castro, 45, Mayor of San Antonio 2009-2014; Sec HUD 2014-2017. Announced candidacy 1/12/19, withdrew 1/2/20.
16. Marianne Williamson, 67, NYT best selling author. Announced candidacy 1/28/19, withdrew 1/10/20.
17. Spartacus, 50, Mayor Newark, NJ, 2006-2013; Senator NJ 2013-present.Announced candidacy 2/1/19, withdrew 1/13/20.
18. John Delaney, 56, Rep MD 2013-2019. Announced candidacy 1/28/19, withdrew 1/31/20.
19. Andrew Yang, 45, former CEO Venture for America. Announced candidacy 11/16/17, withdrew 2/11/20.
20. Michael Bennet, 55, Sen CO 2009-present. Announced candidacy 5/2/19, withdrew 2/11/20.
21. Duval Patrick, 63, former Gov Mass 2007-2015. Announced candidacy 11/14/19, withdrew 2/12/20.
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BDKJMU wrote:Current scorecard:
Dates they officially declared their candidacy, their ages, current job(s)
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1. 1/11 Tulsi Gabbard, 37, Rep HI 2013-present.
2. 1/12 Julian Castro, 44, Mayor of San Antonio 2009-2014; Sec HUD 2014-2017.
3. 1/15 Kirsten Gillibrand, 52, Rep NY 2007-2009, Sen NY 2009-present.
4. 1/21 Kamala Harris, 54, Sen CA 2017-present.
5. 1/28 John Delaney, 55, Rep MD 2013-2019.
6. 2/1 Spartacus, 49, Mayor Newark, NJ, 2006-2013; Senator NJ 2013-present.
7. 2/9 Pocahontas, 69, Sen MA 2013-present.
8. 2/10 Amy Klochbar, 58, Sen MN, 2007-present.

Formed exploratory committee:
9. 1/23 Peter Buttigieg, 37, Mayor of South Bend, ND 2012-present, would be 1st openly gay donk candidate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Demo ... committees

So basically we have now 6 women, Spartacus, Castro, and the gay Peter Butt guy.
If the Libertarian Party nominates someone serious (like Justin Amash) then that's where my vote is going.

If the LP nominates the guy who wears a colander on his head and casts spells, I could see possibly voting for Gabbard or Buttigieg. I'd have to learn a little more about Buttigieg, but I know all I need to know about Gabbard.
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BDKJMU wrote:Current scorecard:
Dates they officially declared their candidacy, their ages, current job(s)
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1. 1/11 Tulsi Gabbard, 37, Rep HI 2013-present.
2. 1/12 Julian Castro, 44, Mayor of San Antonio 2009-2014; Sec HUD 2014-2017.
3. 1/15 Kirsten Gillibrand, 52, Rep NY 2007-2009, Sen NY 2009-present.
4. 1/21 Kamala Harris, 54, Sen CA 2017-present.
5. 1/28 John Delaney, 55, Rep MD 2013-2019.
6. 2/1 Spartacus, 49, Mayor Newark, NJ, 2006-2013; Senator NJ 2013-present.
7. 2/9 Pocahontas, 69, Sen MA 2013-present.
8. 2/10 Amy Klochbar, 58, Sen MN, 2007-present.

Formed exploratory committee:
9. 1/23 Peter Buttigieg, 37, Mayor of South Bend, ND 2012-present, would be 1st openly gay donk candidate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Demo ... committees

So basically we have now 6 women, Spartacus, Castro, and the gay Peter Butt guy.

There is still nothing from establishment members like Uncle Joe Biden, Pompous John Kerry with James Taylor accompanying him, the Hildabeast, and everyone’s favorite commie Bernie Sanders.

This is going to be very entertaining as they all try to outlib each other.


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AZGrizFan wrote:
houndawg wrote:

I suppose he'd be as good of a choice as any of them if he could get over his disdain for women.
Give that ALL the women in congress stood and applauded for only ONE THING: women, me thinks there’s a little bit of “disdain” that needs to be gettin’ over from the other side as well...

...they're horning in on what's been your (collective your) turf and you don't like it. That's natural and you shouldn't beat yourself up over it.

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CID1990 wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Current scorecard:
Dates they officially declared their candidacy, their ages, current job(s)
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1. 1/11 Tulsi Gabbard, 37, Rep HI 2013-present.
2. 1/12 Julian Castro, 44, Mayor of San Antonio 2009-2014; Sec HUD 2014-2017.
3. 1/15 Kirsten Gillibrand, 52, Rep NY 2007-2009, Sen NY 2009-present.
4. 1/21 Kamala Harris, 54, Sen CA 2017-present.
5. 1/28 John Delaney, 55, Rep MD 2013-2019.
6. 2/1 Spartacus, 49, Mayor Newark, NJ, 2006-2013; Senator NJ 2013-present.
7. 2/9 Pocahontas, 69, Sen MA 2013-present.
8. 2/10 Amy Klochbar, 58, Sen MN, 2007-present.

Formed exploratory committee:
9. 1/23 Peter Buttigieg, 37, Mayor of South Bend, ND 2012-present, would be 1st openly gay donk candidate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Demo ... committees

So basically we have now 6 women, Spartacus, Castro, and the gay Peter Butt guy.
If the Libertarian Party nominates someone serious (like Justin Amash) then that's where my vote is going.

If the LP nominates the guy who wears a colander on his head and casts spells, I could see possibly voting for Gabbard or Buttigieg. I'd have to learn a little more about Buttigieg, but I know all I need to know about Gabbard.

I think your referring to Vermin Supreme - I'm looking at him hard too. He says everybody will get a pony if he's elected. :thumb:
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BDKJMU wrote:Klobuchar announces her candidacy. Talks about among other things combating global warming...in the middle of a blizzard.. :lol:
https://www.usatoday.com/picture-galler ... 832325002/
Do you Conks understand that stuff....or are you just playing dumb for political purposes?

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JohnStOnge wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Klobuchar announces her candidacy. Talks about among other things combating global warming...in the middle of a blizzard.. :lol:
https://www.usatoday.com/picture-galler ... 832325002/
I think we've gotten for the point where most people understand that an occurrence of wintry weather does not contradict the climate change hypothesis.

I think we are still in a time where the climate change issue is not a big winner for Democrats. But I think public opinion on that issue, as is the case with many other issues, evolving in the Democrats' favor. I think a day will come up when Republicans wake up and realize they missed the train.

That does not mean I support drastic action to curtail fossil fuel use. I'm just making an observation with respect to what's happening. More and more the Republican Party is becoming the Party of where the culture was in the past while the Democrat Party is becoming where the culture is and will be in the future.
This is what I like about your political analysis JSO. You don't have to agree with something to admit that it is happening or fact.
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SeattleGriz wrote:I love how all the non Native Americans are calling Trump racist for using the term Pocahontas, when it seems the Native American's don't really care about the name, but care about Warren lying instead. Shocker.
They hate all of us.....and who can blame them?

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mainejeff wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:I love how all the non Native Americans are calling Trump racist for using the term Pocahontas, when it seems the Native American's don't really care about the name, but care about Warren lying instead. Shocker.
They hate all of us.....and who can blame them?

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You may be right, but the draw of the reservation doesn't help.

This story is the same pretty much today.

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mainejeff wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
I think we've gotten for the point where most people understand that an occurrence of wintry weather does not contradict the climate change hypothesis.

I think we are still in a time where the climate change issue is not a big winner for Democrats. But I think public opinion on that issue, as is the case with many other issues, evolving in the Democrats' favor. I think a day will come up when Republicans wake up and realize they missed the train.

That does not mean I support drastic action to curtail fossil fuel use. I'm just making an observation with respect to what's happening. More and more the Republican Party is becoming the Party of where the culture was in the past while the Democrat Party is becoming where the culture is and will be in the future.
This is what I like about your political analysis JSO. You don't have to agree with something to admit that it is happening or fact.
Great point, MJ. Having their political views challenged is a frightening thing to many people. :nod:
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mainejeff wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
I think we've gotten for the point where most people understand that an occurrence of wintry weather does not contradict the climate change hypothesis.

I think we are still in a time where the climate change issue is not a big winner for Democrats. But I think public opinion on that issue, as is the case with many other issues, evolving in the Democrats' favor. I think a day will come up when Republicans wake up and realize they missed the train.

That does not mean I support drastic action to curtail fossil fuel use. I'm just making an observation with respect to what's happening. More and more the Republican Party is becoming the Party of where the culture was in the past while the Democrat Party is becoming where the culture is and will be in the future.
This is what I like about your political analysis JSO. You don't have to agree with something to admit that it is happening or fact.
What he admits is happening is that public opinion is changing. He's not admitting man's role in climate change.
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mainejeff wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Klobuchar announces her candidacy. Talks about among other things combating global warming...in the middle of a blizzard.. :lol:
https://www.usatoday.com/picture-galler ... 832325002/
Do you Conks understand that stuff....or are you just playing dumb for political purposes?

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We understand that any donk wet dream policies pushing the global warming agenda are about pushing a social engineering agenda designed to shift power & generate profit at our expense. Do you not understand that, or are you just playing dumb for political purposes?
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mainejeff wrote:
This is what I like about your political analysis JSO. You don't have to agree with something to admit that it is happening or fact.
What he admits is happening is that public opinion is changing. He's not admitting man's role in climate change.
Man's role in climate change is probably small, but i think most reasonable people can agree that our short years of industrialization has had some effect - regardless of how much or little. And while we may not be able to reverse, there's no reason why we can't do everything we can to not exacerbate the issue. :coffee: :twocents:

I think we're also dealing with a natural shift in the climate that we can't combat.
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