Coronavirus COVID-19

[Chizzang]

Ummmm....not sure this is the way it’s supposed to work.

It isn’t

So maybe think about that next time we all entering into a debate about strengthening the Federal government at the expense of the states

I shall never forget the afternoon that CID successfully (and completely) converted me from fringe marginal to absolutist on States Rights
it was a glorious transition and I've never looked back
politically probably the most significant and enjoyable philosophical transition I've ever had

Not sure I ever thanked you CID



I'm even a states rights guy on abortion now

[Gil Dobie]

I don't take being aggressive to mean it goes after everyone in with ferocity. I take it to mean that if you are one that gets it bad, it's very aggressive. Hearing interviews with people that have gone thru it, sounds like they feel like they are drowning as their lungs can no longer pass O2 into the blood stream to other organs. A slow painful death.

Like the flu or pneumonia.

If there was a vaccine it would be.

[89Hen]

Just switched over to FB to find yet another bunch of liberal friends sharing another meme that rewrites history. They can't forward these things fast enough.



Never mind that the second wave of Spanish Flu hit and peaked in September and October and it actually ended soon after WWI did. And the fact that WWI ended made the third wave of the Spanish flu the next spring that much less sever because we weren't bringing home soldiers.

[89Hen]

Like the flu or pneumonia.

If there was a vaccine it would be.

[CAA Flagship]

It isn’t

So maybe think about that next time we all entering into a debate about strengthening the Federal government at the expense of the states

I shall never forget the afternoon that CID successfully (and completely) converted me from fringe marginal to absolutist on States Rights
it was a glorious transition and I've never looked back
politically probably the most significant and enjoyable philosophical transition I've ever had

Not sure I ever thanked you CID



I'm even a states rights guy on abortion now

Very good.
Moving on.
Let's talk carrots.

[Chizzang]

I shall never forget the afternoon that CID successfully (and completely) converted me from fringe marginal to absolutist on States Rights
it was a glorious transition and I've never looked back
politically probably the most significant and enjoyable philosophical transition I've ever had

Not sure I ever thanked you CID



I'm even a states rights guy on abortion now

Very good.
Moving on.
Let's talk carrots.

You mean shaved carrots parsley and a lovely garlic olive oil glaze ?
or just carrots specifically ?

[kalm]

The fact that you can't see that proves that you have lost the ability to think rationally about this topic.

I stand by this.

Yes because you’re too arrogant to admit when you’re wrong.

[89Hen]

I stand by this.

Yes because you’re too arrogant to admit when you’re wrong.

Wrong about what? That the analogy was terrible?

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

It isn’t

So maybe think about that next time we all entering into a debate about strengthening the Federal government at the expense of the states

I shall never forget the afternoon that CID successfully (and completely) converted me from fringe marginal to absolutist on States Rights
it was a glorious transition and I've never looked back
politically probably the most significant and enjoyable philosophical transition I've ever had

Not sure I ever thanked you CID



I'm even a states rights guy on abortion now

Very cool story!

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[UNI88]

Yes because you’re too arrogant to admit when you’re wrong.

Wrong about what? That the analogy was terrible?

You're both right.

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[∞∞∞]

Again I don't know if it's the reason, but healthcare workers can take proper precautions when they're around the infected.

If the virus is being spread through ductwork (literally in the air), I imagine that's a whole different scenario to deal with.

Yeah, I was thinking about that (HVAC). But it's no different than using a convention center. And I'm guessing the gym would be on a different system than other parts of the school (although maybe not the locker rooms).

Well I'll be damned, I was just put on a team to convert the convention center in DC to a hospital.

Obviously not the primary designer since I have no experience, but as support staff for another firm since the turnaround time is insane.

I'll let you know how they do it when we're done. My initial run through of the scope seems like it'll be taking the existing system, and running air into negatively pressurized, pre-manufactured pods with their own HEPA system already built-in. Then that air goes through another HEPA system as it's returned back to the existing units (or discharged to the roof).

[CAA Flagship]

Yeah, I was thinking about that (HVAC). But it's no different than using a convention center. And I'm guessing the gym would be on a different system than other parts of the school (although maybe not the locker rooms).

Well I'll be damned, I was just put on a team to convert the convention center in DC to a hospital.

Obviously not the primary designer since I have no experience, but as support staff for another firm since the turnaround time is insane.

I'll let you know how they do it when we're done. My initial run through of the scope seems like it'll be taking the existing system, and running air into negatively pressurized, pre-manufactured pods with their own HEPA system already built-in. Then that air goes through another HEPA system as it's returned back to the existing units (or discharged to the roof).

I heard talk about the USNS Comfort having it's HVAC system changed just before the switch to accept COVID-19 patients.

[AZGrizFan]

You can regard me as you’d like.

Notice you provided no evidence. Trust me, I’m the biggest fan of this being overblown hysteria and that the best science has been completely wrong. I want to cast blue duns to rising rainbow trout and hit a quail high knockdown micro fade wedge to a back right pin placement on #16...right fucking now!

Meanwhile, my conservative friends have been mostly the ones losing there shit while the “liberal morons” have been more inclined to a thoughtful, measured response.

Funny, ain’t that?

You’ve got an odd definition of “thoughtful, measured response”.

[AZGrizFan]

Well I'll be damned, I was just put on a team to convert the convention center in DC to a hospital.

Obviously not the primary designer since I have no experience, but as support staff for another firm since the turnaround time is insane.

I'll let you know how they do it when we're done. My initial run through of the scope seems like it'll be taking the existing system, and running air into negatively pressurized, pre-manufactured pods with their own HEPA system already built-in. Then that air goes through another HEPA system as it's returned back to the existing units (or discharged to the roof).

I heard talk about the USNS Comfort having it's HVAC system changed just before the switch to accept COVID-19 patients.

You mean “mythical” COVID 19 patients, since they are sitting there mostly empty.....

[mainejeff]

TLDR (it all)



Waxing poetic. So many people reporting no symptoms to very mild symptoms.

Deaths 55+ = 11,961 out of 94,703,829 people
Deaths < 55 = 1,169 out of 232,463,605 people

If it were so aggressive, we'd see a LOT more deaths in folks < 55.

And so nobody gets bent out of shape, yes the numbers are behind.

I don't take being aggressive to mean it goes after everyone in with ferocity. I take it to mean that if you are one that gets it bad, it's very aggressive. Hearing interviews with people that have gone thru it, sounds like they feel like they are drowning as their lungs can no longer pass O2 into the blood stream to other organs. A slow painful death.

Stop scaring the retards, Gil!

[mainejeff]

It isn’t

So maybe think about that next time we all entering into a debate about strengthening the Federal government at the expense of the states

I shall never forget the afternoon that CID successfully (and completely) converted me from fringe marginal to absolutist on States Rights
it was a glorious transition and I've never looked back
politically probably the most significant and enjoyable philosophical transition I've ever had

Not sure I ever thanked you CID



I'm even a states rights guy on abortion now

That's all well and good.....but the Feds are still in charge....and North Dakota, West Virginia and Mississippi are calling the shots.

[CAA Flagship]

I heard talk about the USNS Comfort having it's HVAC system changed just before the switch to accept COVID-19 patients.

You mean “mythical” COVID 19 patients, since they are sitting there mostly empty.....

Well, it moved to Philly. So there's that.

[SDHornet]

Meanwhile, my conservative friends have been mostly the ones losing there shit while the “liberal morons” have been more inclined to a thoughtful, measured response.

So wife has been knee-deep in everything involved with PPE for all the A-B facilities. She bursted out in frustration about the Ft. Collins (CO) brewery.
Me: What happened now?
Her: They want more masks than we are providing all other facilities.
Me: Why.
Her: They are....
Me: Whiny pussies?
Her: (laughing) I knew you would say that. Let's just say that they think they are a more educated workforce than other places, when in fact they are the same. They just think they know more.
Me: So I nailed it.

[SDHornet]

^ I don't disagree, but what about the people dying who aren't being counted in the statistics.

We can't just say "(Counted Fatality) / (Counted Survivor + Uncounted Survivor)" = Mortality Rate".

The equation has to be:
"(Counted Fatality + Uncounted Fatality) / (Counted Survivor + Uncounted Survivor) = Mortality Rate".

When you get those numbers, please pass them along. There are anecdotal stories of over-reporting deaths too.

Didn't a JSO post cover this?

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I heard talk about the USNS Comfort having it's HVAC system changed just before the switch to accept COVID-19 patients.

You mean “mythical” COVID 19 patients, since they are sitting there mostly empty.....

Yep, over blown to blow up the economy

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[kalm]

You can regard me as you’d like.

Notice you provided no evidence. Trust me, I’m the biggest fan of this being overblown hysteria and that the best science has been completely wrong. I want to cast blue duns to rising rainbow trout and hit a quail high knockdown micro fade wedge to a back right pin placement on #16...right fucking now!

Meanwhile, my conservative friends have been mostly the ones losing there shit while the “liberal morons” have been more inclined to a thoughtful, measured response.

Funny, ain’t that?

You’ve got an odd definition of “thoughtful, measured response”.

You’ve seen my friends responses? Stalker?

[Ibanez]

Just switched over to FB to find yet another bunch of liberal friends sharing another meme that rewrites history. They can't forward these things fast enough.



Never mind that the second wave of Spanish Flu hit and peaked in September and October and it actually ended soon after WWI did. And the fact that WWI ended made the third wave of the Spanish flu the next spring that much less sever because we weren't bringing home soldiers.

I hate these stupid memes that try to sound intelligent but are so wrong. My uncle loves to post them.

He posted one the other day about bar codes and how to tell if something is really American. His friends and some family were all in a tizzy then got pissed when I and someone else pointed out that most barcodes in the US don't have country identifiers (it's more common in Europe.) What a bunch of low-information, ignorant "conservatives"

[AZGrizFan]

You’ve got an odd definition of “thoughtful, measured response”.

You’ve seen my friends responses? Stalker?

No but I’ve seen my sisters’ responses (and their friends) and it’s ANYTHING but “thoughtful and measured”.

And I’ve seen thousands of responses on twitter and FB....the “we’re all gonna die!” And “we need to shut down for 18 months” and “we can’t reopen until we have a vaccine!”...and “If my infant child gets it they’ll die!!!” And “if you don’t sequester you’ll die!”....

There’s 10000x more hysteria from the left on the virus than there is from the right on the erosion of our civil rights.

[kalm]

You’ve seen my friends responses? Stalker?

No but I’ve seen my sisters’ responses (and their friends) and it’s ANYTHING but “thoughtful and measured”.

Well I don’t know your sister but if she’s anything like JSO’s,

[AZGrizFan]

No but I’ve seen my sisters’ responses (and their friends) and it’s ANYTHING but “thoughtful and measured”.

Well I don’t know your sister but if she’s anything like JSO’s,

I’m gonna do you a uuuuuuuuggeeeee favor and not honor your request.