Muslim Brotherhood is Secular Says Obama DNI

[native]

Thank God for small blessings! Maybe we are a step ahead of the past. Some idiots actually thought Hitler really was a Boy Scout.

Hitler, Boy Scouts and MB - all have a common enemy

Hitler and the MB are truly your enemy, jon.

But everyone who does not celebrate your life style and want to be like you is not your enemy.

[Grizalltheway]

Hitler, Boy Scouts and MB - all have a common enemy

Hitler and the MB are truly your enemy, jon.

But everyone who does not celebrate your life style and want to be like you is not your enemy.

Seriously, when are you going to figure out that no gay person asks for their "lifestyle" to be "celebrated".

[native]

Hitler and the MB are truly your enemy, jon.

But everyone who does not celebrate your life style and want to be like you is not your enemy.

Seriously, when are you going to figure out that no gay person asks for their "lifestyle" to be "celebrated".

Aw, c'mon. They do it in this forum and in street parades around the country, for goodness' sake.

[dbackjon]

Seriously, when are you going to figure out that no gay person asks for their "lifestyle" to be "celebrated".

Aw, c'mon. They do it in this forum and in street parades around the country, for goodness' sake.

Bandl, Andy and Ursus have no idea what you are talking about

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Aw, c'mon. They do it in this forum and in street parades around the country, for goodness' sake.

Bandl, Andy and Ursus have no idea what you are talking about

That is a terrible pic of me.

[CID1990]

The Muslim Brotherhood is not a secular organization. They are not even "mostly" secular. They have secular fringe elements that have latched on to them because of Mubarak, Israel and other motivations, but make no mistakes... they will rule by Sharia law if they come to power. Egypt won't be Afghanistan, but it won't be Egypt, either.

You think the Egyptian military will sit still for that?

Not if the MB makes any radical moves at this very moment, but that is not how things will unfold. They will slowly cashier key players in the military and install their own people. It will not take long.

Besides, I thought the topic here was whether or not the Muslim Brotherhood is a largely secular organization. Whether the Egyptian military will tolerate them is immaterial. (And the Egyptian military ALREADY tolerates them as does/did Mubarak... that is an important thing to consider.)

[houndawg]

You think the Egyptian military will sit still for that?

Not if the MB makes any radical moves at this very moment, but that is not how things will unfold. They will slowly cashier key players in the military and install their own people. It will not take long.

Besides, I thought the topic here was whether or not the Muslim Brotherhood is a largely secular organization. Whether the Egyptian military will tolerate them is immaterial. (And the Egyptian military ALREADY tolerates them as does/did Mubarak... that is an important thing to consider.)

OK, they are not secular. If they follow your scenario why won't they find themselves in Mubarak's position?

[native]

Not if the MB makes any radical moves at this very moment, but that is not how things will unfold. They will slowly cashier key players in the military and install their own people. It will not take long.

Besides, I thought the topic here was whether or not the Muslim Brotherhood is a largely secular organization. Whether the Egyptian military will tolerate them is immaterial. (And the Egyptian military ALREADY tolerates them as does/did Mubarak... that is an important thing to consider.)

OK, they are not secular. If they follow your scenario why won't they find themselves in Mubarak's position?

Because they already directly represent 20-40% of the population, and are supported by an even higher percentage, as referenced elsewhere.

American pollster James Zogby, an ethic Arab, shares some insight into the Egyptian mindset:
http://www.zogby.com/blog2/index.php/20 ... -policies/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.zogby.com/soundbites/ReadClips.cfm?ID=19834" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Pew Foundation has also conducted some interesting polls within the last year or so,
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims ... hezbollah/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1874/egypt- ... -extremism" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[houndawg]

OK, they are not secular. If they follow your scenario why won't they find themselves in Mubarak's position?

Because they already directly represent 20-40% of the population, and are supported by an even higher percentage, as referenced elsewhere.

American pollster James Zogby, an ethic Arab, shares some insight into the Egyptian mindset:
http://www.zogby.com/blog2/index.php/20 ... -policies/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.zogby.com/soundbites/ReadClips.cfm?ID=19834" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Pew Foundation has also conducted some interesting polls within the last year or so,
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims ... hezbollah/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1874/egypt- ... -extremism" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's their country, bate, they can vote for whomever they wish.

[SDHornet]

It's their country, bate, they can vote for whomever they wish.

That’s my feeling towards this. Yeah it would suck for US interests if the majority of Egyptians supported a supposedly radical Muslim group/organization, but ultimately it’s their choice. That’s the beauty of Democracy. Plus we have enough sh!t to worry about in our country, I’d rather the Obama administration and Congress find ways to get us out of the big hole we are in then worry about how they want to screw with Egypt’s issues.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

It's their country, bate, they can vote for whomever they wish.

That’s my feeling towards this. Yeah it would suck for US interests if the majority of Egyptians supported a supposedly radical Muslim group/organization, but ultimately it’s their choice. That’s the beauty of Democracy. Plus we have enough sh!t to worry about in our country, I’d rather the Obama administration and Congress find ways to get us out of the big hole we are in then worry about how they want to screw with Egypt’s issues.

That's been my point all along as well. This is their deal and they have to now make whatever choices they need to make to have their country work. It ain't about us.

We can certainly hope that they move towards what they say they want in this. There is evidence that they want to with the groups of "get out the vote" type things going on. The day after Mubarek left there were groups going around to neighborhoods to educate the public that if they let their votes be bought and if they succumbed to groups with certain agenda's that they would be right back in the shape they are now in and this all would have been for nothing.

[Appaholic]

That’s my feeling towards this. Yeah it would suck for US interests if the majority of Egyptians supported a supposedly radical Muslim group/organization, but ultimately it’s their choice. That’s the beauty of Democracy. Plus we have enough sh!t to worry about in our country, I’d rather the Obama administration and Congress find ways to get us out of the big hole we are in then worry about how they want to screw with Egypt’s issues.

That's been my point all along as well. This is their deal and they have to now make whatever choices they need to make to have their country work. It ain't about us.

We can certainly hope that they move towards what they say they want in this. There is evidence that they want to with the groups of "get out the vote" type things going on. The day after Mubarek left there were groups going around to neighborhoods to educate the public that if they let their votes be bought and if they succumbed to groups with certain agenda's that they would be right back in the shape they are now in and this all would have been for nothing.

ACORN got another gig?