No medal for NBA Olympic team

[Caribbean Hen]

South Sudan defeats Puerto Rico in basketball.

Noooooo

The Island always gets fired up about their hoops team and it’s been 20 years since they made the Olympics

[Caribbean Hen]

MJ for a certain generation. Some say Russell or Wilt or Kareem or Magic or Bird or Kobe. Lebron might not be top 10.

Bird was definitely the best trash-talker

Yes he was and best team player of all time

Jordan best player of all time

Curry … an old shooter like me would definitely shy away from a game of H O R S E against him

[houndawg]

Sure am glad the Olympics aren’t politicized. Why can’t they all be like ‘Murica!

It isn't satire. It isn't the Last Supper either and its astonishing how few christians noticed that in their rush to play the victim. Yet again.

Hint: the Olympics originated in Greece as did the theme of this float

[Gil Dobie]

It isn't satire. It isn't the Last Supper either and its astonishing how few christians noticed that in their rush to play the victim. Yet again.

Hint: the Olympics originated in Greece as did the theme of this float

I really don't believe it's Christian thing, it's political and being labeled as "Christians" being butthurt. Real Christians could care less.

[houndawg]

It isn't satire. It isn't the Last Supper either and its astonishing how few christians noticed that in their rush to play the victim. Yet again.

Hint: the Olympics originated in Greece as did the theme of this float

I really don't believe it's Christian thing, it's political and being labeled as "Christians" being butthurt. Real Christians could care less.

I'm seeing quite a bit of outrage from Christians on the feed actually

The real ones probably know the difference between The Last Supper and The Feast of Dionysius.

[Caribbean Hen]

I really don't believe it's Christian thing, it's political and being labeled as "Christians" being butthurt. Real Christians could care less.

I'm seeing quite a bit of outrage from Christians on the feed actually

The real ones probably know the difference between The Last Supper and The Feast of Dionysius.

Gil is right

[kalm]

I'm seeing quite a bit of outrage from Christians on the feed actually

The real ones probably know the difference between The Last Supper and The Feast of Dionysius.

Gil is right

I agree. The issue is that real Christian’s are either a small minority or they are mostly silent on these cultural issues.

[Caribbean Hen]

Gil is right

I agree. The issue is that real Christian’s are either a small minority or they are mostly silent on these cultural issues.

Just imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and they mocked Muslims… people would die for that

[kalm]

I agree. The issue is that real Christian’s are either a small minority or they are mostly silent on these cultural issues.

Just imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and they mocked Muslims… people would die for that

Sadly true. Islam is also dominated by the extremists similar to the Republican Party. But even more violent.

[clenz]

I agree. The issue is that real Christian’s are either a small minority or they are mostly silent on these cultural issues.

Just imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and they mocked Muslims… people would die for that

What other foot?

One foot is paying homage to the ancient greeks - where the games originated - and the other foot is Islam who wasn't involved in this at all?

Hmm...

Outside of xenophobia and butt hurt what do Islam or Christianity have to do with this?

[GannonFan]

Just imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and they mocked Muslims… people would die for that

What other foot?

One foot is paying homage to the ancient greeks - where the games originated - and the other foot is Islam who wasn't involved in this at all?

Hmm...

Outside of xenophobia and butt hurt what do Islam or Christianity have to do with this?

I don't have any stake in this fight, but I don't get it where people are now saying there was no connection to the Last Supper in the start to that segment. I remember watching it in real time and the first thing I thought "hmm, Last Supper". Whether it was intentional or not, whether it was done as parody or not, I don't think there's anyway that someone could honestly say that didn't look like the Last Supper. To me, that's a perfect example of gaslighting. "No, silly, that's not the Last Supper, you don't know what you're looking at". And to me, even if it was done as parody, I'm fine with that. As the artist said, it was supposed to be about liberty and the freedom of expression, which to me, even a parody would be. But let's not pretend the thing didn't look like the Last Supper when it clearly did.

[kalm]

What other foot?

One foot is paying homage to the ancient greeks - where the games originated - and the other foot is Islam who wasn't involved in this at all?

Hmm...

Outside of xenophobia and butt hurt what do Islam or Christianity have to do with this?

I don't have any stake in this fight, but I don't get it where people are now saying there was no connection to the Last Supper in the start to that segment. I remember watching it in real time and the first thing I thought "hmm, Last Supper". Whether it was intentional or not, whether it was done as parody or not, I don't think there's anyway that someone could honestly say that didn't look like the Last Supper. To me, that's a perfect example of gaslighting. "No, silly, that's not the Last Supper, you don't know what you're looking at". And to me, even if it was done as parody, I'm fine with that. As the artist said, it was supposed to be about liberty and the freedom of expression, which to me, even a parody would be. But let's not pretend the thing didn't look like the Last Supper when it clearly did.

Seems like quite a few people disagree…

[Bobcat]

Clearly MJ is the best basketball player of all time. Who would you put up as the best female gymnast of all time?

MJ for a certain generation. Some say Russell or Wilt or Kareem or Magic or Bird or Kobe. Lebron might not be top 10.

Peking James isn't top 10 that's for sure. Everyone on your list is ahead of him. O Robertson and Duncan too. You can make a great case for Curry as well

[GannonFan]

I don't have any stake in this fight, but I don't get it where people are now saying there was no connection to the Last Supper in the start to that segment. I remember watching it in real time and the first thing I thought "hmm, Last Supper". Whether it was intentional or not, whether it was done as parody or not, I don't think there's anyway that someone could honestly say that didn't look like the Last Supper. To me, that's a perfect example of gaslighting. "No, silly, that's not the Last Supper, you don't know what you're looking at". And to me, even if it was done as parody, I'm fine with that. As the artist said, it was supposed to be about liberty and the freedom of expression, which to me, even a parody would be. But let's not pretend the thing didn't look like the Last Supper when it clearly did.

Seems like quite a few people disagree…

Just more gaslighting. The blue guy supposed to be Dionysius wasn't on screen when they first went to the image. And they even went as far as to have the central figure at the table have a halo-like image behind them, as was done in the Last Supper. And yes, I know it is housed in Italy and not France, I've actually been to Milan and saw it. Again, whether it was intentional or not, trying to pretend the thing, at least at the start, didn't look like the Last Supper is pure and simple gaslighting.

I don't think people should be upset about it, but then again, I think folks should be able to draw or depict Muhammed too. I support the artist and his contention that art should be able to say or show anything in a free society. That's why I don't understand the gaslighting. You showed something that looked very similar to the Last Supper, why degrade the people who recognized that?

[UNI88]

MJ for a certain generation. Some say Russell or Wilt or Kareem or Magic or Bird or Kobe. Lebron might not be top 10.

Peking James isn't top 10 that's for sure. Everyone on your list is ahead of him. O Robertson and Duncan too. You can make a great case for Curry as well

I don't like Lebron and think he's a hypocrite when it comes to speaking up for disadvantaged people but putting my personal feelings aside and objectively looking at him solely as a basketball player, he's one of the greatest of all time, ahead of Duncan and Curry.

[Caribbean Hen]

Peking James isn't top 10 that's for sure. Everyone on your list is ahead of him. O Robertson and Duncan too. You can make a great case for Curry as well

I don't like Lebron and think he's a hypocrite when it comes to speaking up for disadvantaged people but putting my personal feelings aside and objectively looking at him solely as a basketball player, he's one of the greatest of all time, ahead of Duncan and Curry.

Pound for pound, I take Curry any day over LeBron. I’m not saying LeBron isn’t great, but Curry is just spectacular

[UNI88]

I don't like Lebron and think he's a hypocrite when it comes to speaking up for disadvantaged people but putting my personal feelings aside and objectively looking at him solely as a basketball player, he's one of the greatest of all time, ahead of Duncan and Curry.

Pound for pound, I take Curry any day over LeBron. I’m not saying LeBron isn’t great, but Curry is just spectacular

I'd take AI over Lebron on a pound for pound basis.

Curry is spectacular, his shooting changed the game and he's earned consideration.

I don't like him and there's no way I think he's the GOAT but what Lebron has done has been phenomenal.

[Caribbean Hen]

What other foot?

One foot is paying homage to the ancient greeks - where the games originated - and the other foot is Islam who wasn't involved in this at all?

Hmm...

Outside of xenophobia and butt hurt what do Islam or Christianity have to do with this?

I don't have any stake in this fight, but I don't get it where people are now saying there was no connection to the Last Supper in the start to that segment. I remember watching it in real time and the first thing I thought "hmm, Last Supper". Whether it was intentional or not, whether it was done as parody or not, I don't think there's anyway that someone could honestly say that didn't look like the Last Supper. To me, that's a perfect example of gaslighting. "No, silly, that's not the Last Supper, you don't know what you're looking at". And to me, even if it was done as parody, I'm fine with that. As the artist said, it was supposed to be about liberty and the freedom of expression, which to me, even a parody would be. But let's not pretend the thing didn't look like the Last Supper when it clearly did.

This

Pure mockery on the World Stage

Who was the journalist that got killed for mocking Muslims a few years ago with a lampoon in a newspaper, which is hardly the scale of the Olympics

I’m not personally triggered by it either but it is what it is

[kalm]

Seems like quite a few people disagree…

Just more gaslighting. The blue guy supposed to be Dionysius wasn't on screen when they first went to the image. And they even went as far as to have the central figure at the table have a halo-like image behind them, as was done in the Last Supper. And yes, I know it is housed in Italy and not France, I've actually been to Milan and saw it. Again, whether it was intentional or not, trying to pretend the thing, at least at the start, didn't look like the Last Supper is pure and simple gaslighting.

I don't think people should be upset about it, but then again, I think folks should be able to draw or depict Muhammed too. I support the artist and his contention that art should be able to say or show anything in a free society. That's why I don't understand the gaslighting. You showed something that looked very similar to the Last Supper, why degrade the people who recognized that?

Is it gaslighting when conservatives were gaslighting the event first? Maybe just a reaction to gaslighting and defense of the intent?

[UNI88]

I don't have any stake in this fight, but I don't get it where people are now saying there was no connection to the Last Supper in the start to that segment. I remember watching it in real time and the first thing I thought "hmm, Last Supper". Whether it was intentional or not, whether it was done as parody or not, I don't think there's anyway that someone could honestly say that didn't look like the Last Supper. To me, that's a perfect example of gaslighting. "No, silly, that's not the Last Supper, you don't know what you're looking at". And to me, even if it was done as parody, I'm fine with that. As the artist said, it was supposed to be about liberty and the freedom of expression, which to me, even a parody would be. But let's not pretend the thing didn't look like the Last Supper when it clearly did.

This

Pure mockery on the World Stage

Who was the journalist that got killed for mocking Muslims a few years ago with a lampoon in a newspaper, which is hardly the scale of the Olympics

I’m not personally triggered by it either but it is what it is

You might be mixing up Salmon Rushdie and the Danish cartoons but your point stands - there are similarities between the outrage of American evangelicals and Muslims.

Lampooning is a form of mockery and the French have different mores when it comes to religion, dressing in drag, etc. It's just as unreasonable for Americans evangelicals to expect them to consider their sensitivities as it was for Muslims to expect the same of Danish cartoonists.

[houndawg]

Seems like quite a few people disagree…

Just more gaslighting. The blue guy supposed to be Dionysius wasn't on screen when they first went to the image. And they even went as far as to have the central figure at the table have a halo-like image behind them, as was done in the Last Supper. And yes, I know it is housed in Italy and not France, I've actually been to Milan and saw it. Again, whether it was intentional or not, trying to pretend the thing, at least at the start, didn't look like the Last Supper is pure and simple gaslighting.

I don't think people should be upset about it, but then again, I think folks should be able to draw or depict Muhammed too. I support the artist and his contention that art should be able to say or show anything in a free society. That's why I don't understand the gaslighting. You showed something that looked very similar to the Last Supper, why degrade the people who recognized that?

...similar if you haven't seen the Feast of Dionysus, if you'd seen both you would have recognized the difference. I didn't until I read about, its not the sort of thing a non-religious STEM student would be likely to cross paths with - but every liberal arts major in the nation sems to have spotted it right away. Its definitely not something you'd expect a trumper to know.

[kalm]

Apollo, god of the sun, was recognisable by his halo, Schoonenberg said, Dionysus by the grapes, Poseidon, god of the sea, by his trident, Artemis by the moon and Venus by Cupid. Minerva, goddess of wisdom, and Mars, god of war, were also present.

“So there is no question in this tableau of an insult to Christians,” the historian said. “We’re talking about the Olympic gods in a representation of van Bijlert’s work. The Greek gods came together on Olympus – where the ancient Games took place.”

The Magnin Museum did, however, acknowledge similarities between the work and The Last Supper, which was painted more than a century earlier before the Protestant Reformation, which rejected Catholic art and even destroyed many works.

That may go some way to explaining the confusion. “In the context of the Reformation … the artist found a strategy for painting a Christ-related Last Supper under cover of a mythological subject matter,” the museum said.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/artic ... 0dy7mcekeg

Also this…

[houndawg]

I agree. The issue is that real Christian’s are either a small minority or they are mostly silent on these cultural issues.

Just imagine if the shoe was on the other foot and they mocked Muslims… people would die for that

You're talking about two groups of people that are willingly bamboozled

[GannonFan]

Apollo, god of the sun, was recognisable by his halo, Schoonenberg said, Dionysus by the grapes, Poseidon, god of the sea, by his trident, Artemis by the moon and Venus by Cupid. Minerva, goddess of wisdom, and Mars, god of war, were also present.

“So there is no question in this tableau of an insult to Christians,” the historian said. “We’re talking about the Olympic gods in a representation of van Bijlert’s work. The Greek gods came together on Olympus – where the ancient Games took place.”

The Magnin Museum did, however, acknowledge similarities between the work and The Last Supper, which was painted more than a century earlier before the Protestant Reformation, which rejected Catholic art and even destroyed many works.

That may go some way to explaining the confusion. “In the context of the Reformation … the artist found a strategy for painting a Christ-related Last Supper under cover of a mythological subject matter,” the museum said.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/artic ... 0dy7mcekeg

Also this…

So you're saying that the person who included this in the opening ceremonies was trying to recreate a Dutch painter's version of the Greek Gods, and the Dutch guy in turn was probably heavily influenced by Da Vinci's work from a century earlier and could actually have been using the veneer of the Greek gods while actually trying to be recreating the Last Supper. But Christians out there who took offense to this are way off base in thinking this was, intentional or not, an allusion to the Last Supper?

[kalm]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/artic ... 0dy7mcekeg

Also this…

So you're saying that the person who included this in the opening ceremonies was trying to recreate a Dutch painter's version of the Greek Gods, and the Dutch guy in turn was probably heavily influenced by Da Vinci's work from a century earlier and could actually have been using the veneer of the Greek gods while actually trying to be recreating the Last Supper. But Christians out there who took offense to this are way off base in thinking this was, intentional or not, an allusion to the Last Supper?

So you’re implying that the person who included this in the opening ceremonies was secretively trying to reclaim DaVinci for what happened during the reformation? Christian’s should be elated!