Coronavirus COVID-19

[∞∞∞]

Let this sink in for a moment...CNN is going to have a Corona virus townhall, and one of their four experts is...

What's the issue? It's only town hall.

They're not claiming Thunberg is an expert, and there's a real connection between climate change, conservation, and emergent diseases. The more we degrade our environment, the more we'll encounter this type of stuff.

[BDKJMU]

Male coronavirus patients with low testosterone levels are MORE likely to die from COVID-19, German hospital finds
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... ID-19.html

Some of y’all with half a man card could be in trouble.

[∞∞∞]

Male coronavirus patients with low testosterone levels are MORE likely to die from COVID-19, German hospital finds
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... ID-19.html

Some of y’all with half a man card could be in trouble.

Mortality rates are also closely related to Vitamin D levels: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 121353.htm

That may explain the testosterone thing since Vitamin D and testosterone are linked.

Get your Vitamin D.

[93henfan]

The California State University system announces it will keep classrooms closed for the fall semester.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/12/us/c ... asses.html

And all of Western Civilization mourns!

Add Harvard:

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2020 ... line-fall/

[Ivytalk]

And all of Western Civilization mourns!

Add Harvard:

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2020 ... line-fall/

Pussies.

[BDKJMU]

Wis Supreme Court strikes down Gov’s extension of stay at home order.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wiscon ... home-order

Now if could only get the courts in PA to do the same thing (doubtful) after Gov Wolf last Fri 5/8 extended stay at home for 39 of 67 counties until 6/4..

[CID1990]

I think they just need to get back to the basics.

Colleges today are looking for niches because they cannot compete with the big state universities or the established academic powerhouses.

So we have a myriad of schools like Evergreen, catering to parents who want their kids to be steeped in social justice, and Oral Roberts, where they want their kids to pretend they are chaste while fucking everything in sight including the garden hose (and majoring in gender studies or creationism)

As far as I am concerned, if any college or university doesn’t have at least 50% of its course catalogue dedicated to STEM, then it is no loss if it folds

Agree. I don't see the value in going to college unless its STEM and maybe business and accounting (but maybe those fall under the "M" in STEM). The funny thing about the idea of big public universities tightening their belt means a lot of the SJW and arts and letters types of degrees would get the most scrutiny.

I’m not so sure about that

Its all about the Benjamins and when you have a school with 20,000 kids in the “liberal arts” and 175 kids in the Physics Department... I’m not sure the Gender Studies dept is going to get the stink eye


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[SDHornet]

Agree. I don't see the value in going to college unless its STEM and maybe business and accounting (but maybe those fall under the "M" in STEM). The funny thing about the idea of big public universities tightening their belt means a lot of the SJW and arts and letters types of degrees would get the most scrutiny.

I’m not so sure about that

Its all about the Benjamins and when you have a school with 20,000 kids in the “liberal arts” and 175 kids in the Physics Department... I’m not sure the Gender Studies dept is going to get the stink eye


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If that were the case then all those small liberal arts private schools would be swimming in cash...

...they are not.

[BDKJMU]

Yesterday passed the 10 million mark in testing...

Covidtracking.com #s
3/31- 1 million
4/7- 2 million
4/14- 3 million
4/20- 4 million
4/25- 5 million
4/29- 6 million
5/3- 7 million
5/7- 8 million
5/11- 9 million
5/14- 10 million (5/13 CDC & Worldometer)

[Gil Dobie]

Minnesota ends stay at home order Monday, opens up more on June 1. 10 or less can meet in groups. Nonessential business open, restaurants, salons, bars.

[GannonFan]

Minnesota ends stay at home order Monday, opens up more on June 1. 10 or less can meet in groups. Nonessential business open, restaurants, salons, bars.

And I'm sure with the same restrictions in place that we could've put in place and had them open up a month and a half ago.

When we decided to shut things down I think we made the right calls - with the exception of protecting nursing homes and other home care - that's been badly bungled and wasn't enough of a focus early on and the vast majority of deaths are in those locations - something like 70% in PA alone.

Where this has gone off the rails is our stubborn resistance to acknowledge the science of this and that we can't wish the virus away by hunkering at home. We knew two months ago that a vaccine wasn't coming for a long time. We knew two months ago that with the right steps and precautions (masks in public, or at least indoors, social distancing, temp checks, reduced capacity, etc) that we could minimize the spread. Heck, in most places we've been doing this for two months as we allowed grocery stores, the big box stores like Walmart (but not their small business competitors), restaurants, etc to stay open and to do those precautions. And the longer we stubbornly hold on to restrictions that don't make sense (i.e. like Wolf magically adding a month on to restrictions in most of PA just because) then the more resistant people get to the actual recommendations (like the aforementioned precautions) because now they don't trust the motivations of those making the decisions. We see it on a national scale with Trump, and we see it 50 different times and ways with governors and then even more so at the local level.

We know what we have to do to go back and we can and should be doing it today, if we haven't already.

[Ibanez]

Let this sink in for a moment...CNN is going to have a Corona virus townhall, and one of their four experts is...

What's the issue? It's only town hall.

They're not claiming Thunberg is an expert, and there's a real connection between climate change, conservation, and emergent diseases. The more we degrade our environment, the more we'll encounter this type of stuff.

Thunberg is a flash in the pan social warrior. Do we really expect a 14(?) yr old to understand all the nuances, causes, effects, interdependicies of a climate change, epidemiology and ecology?

[Ibanez]

Yesterday passed the 10 million mark in testing...

Covidtracking.com #s
3/31- 1 million
4/7- 2 million
4/14- 3 million
4/20- 4 million
4/25- 5 million
4/29- 6 million
5/3- 7 million
5/7- 8 million
5/11- 9 million
5/14- 10 million (5/13 CDC & Worldometer)

I noticed you've stopped counting the deaths.

[Gil Dobie]

Minnesota ends stay at home order Monday, opens up more on June 1. 10 or less can meet in groups. Nonessential business open, restaurants, salons, bars.

And I'm sure with the same restrictions in place that we could've put in place and had them open up a month and a half ago.

When we decided to shut things down I think we made the right calls - with the exception of protecting nursing homes and other home care - that's been badly bungled and wasn't enough of a focus early on and the vast majority of deaths are in those locations - something like 70% in PA alone.

Where this has gone off the rails is our stubborn resistance to acknowledge the science of this and that we can't wish the virus away by hunkering at home. We knew two months ago that a vaccine wasn't coming for a long time. We knew two months ago that with the right steps and precautions (masks in public, or at least indoors, social distancing, temp checks, reduced capacity, etc) that we could minimize the spread. Heck, in most places we've been doing this for two months as we allowed grocery stores, the big box stores like Walmart (but not their small business competitors), restaurants, etc to stay open and to do those precautions. And the longer we stubbornly hold on to restrictions that don't make sense (i.e. like Wolf magically adding a month on to restrictions in most of PA just because) then the more resistant people get to the actual recommendations (like the aforementioned precautions) because now they don't trust the motivations of those making the decisions. We see it on a national scale with Trump, and we see it 50 different times and ways with governors and then even more so at the local level.

We know what we have to do to go back and we can and should be doing it today, if we haven't already.

Minnesota's first case was March 5, Shelter in Place was March 13, with the modules showing very high case numbers and deaths. Shelter in Place kept those numbers down. Minnesota has been at a steady 20+ deaths per day for a couple weeks now, but 3/4's of the tested cases are now resolved. Mayo clinic took this seriously, they probably have more of a sense of what's going on than the news media or Trump or the TDS crowd.

[kalm]

Minnesota ends stay at home order Monday, opens up more on June 1. 10 or less can meet in groups. Nonessential business open, restaurants, salons, bars.

And I'm sure with the same restrictions in place that we could've put in place and had them open up a month and a half ago.

When we decided to shut things down I think we made the right calls - with the exception of protecting nursing homes and other home care - that's been badly bungled and wasn't enough of a focus early on and the vast majority of deaths are in those locations - something like 70% in PA alone.

Where this has gone off the rails is our stubborn resistance to acknowledge the science of this and that we can't wish the virus away by hunkering at home. We knew two months ago that a vaccine wasn't coming for a long time. We knew two months ago that with the right steps and precautions (masks in public, or at least indoors, social distancing, temp checks, reduced capacity, etc) that we could minimize the spread. Heck, in most places we've been doing this for two months as we allowed grocery stores, the big box stores like Walmart (but not their small business competitors), restaurants, etc to stay open and to do those precautions. And the longer we stubbornly hold on to restrictions that don't make sense (i.e. like Wolf magically adding a month on to restrictions in most of PA just because) then the more resistant people get to the actual recommendations (like the aforementioned precautions) because now they don't trust the motivations of those making the decisions. We see it on a national scale with Trump, and we see it 50 different times and ways with governors and then even more so at the local level.

We know what we have to do to go back and we can and should be doing it today, if we haven't already.

Go back to where? Not diminishing your points here, but we seem to be about as far off from herd immunity numbers as total testing. And that’s assuming we know all there is to know about herd immunity not to mention the long term health effects of survivors and those related economic costs.

[89Hen]

Thunberg is a flash in the pan social warrior. Do we really expect a 14(?) yr old to understand all the nuances, causes, effects, interdependicies of a climate change, epidemiology and ecology?

Trip thinks we value his opinion, so he probably does.

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Thunberg is a flash in the pan social warrior. Do we really expect a 14(?) yr old to understand all the nuances, causes, effects, interdependicies of a climate change, epidemiology and ecology?

She's 17.

And of course not, but who cares? She's not being paraded as an expert.

It's a town hall...the whole point is to get different perspectives. Young people and their concerns are a legitimate perspective.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Let this sink in for a moment...CNN is going to have a Corona virus townhall, and one of their four experts is...

What's the issue? It's only town hall.

They're not claiming Thunberg is an expert, and there's a real connection between climate change, conservation, and emergent diseases. The more we degrade our environment, the more we'll encounter this type of stuff.

She's literally a retard. That's what they are listening to.

A retard.

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[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Male coronavirus patients with low testosterone levels are MORE likely to die from COVID-19, German hospital finds
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... ID-19.html

Some of y’all with half a man card could be in trouble.

Mortality rates are also closely related to Vitamin D levels: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 121353.htm

That may explain the testosterone thing since Vitamin D and testosterone are linked.

Get your Vitamin D.

Mangeoff get his vitamin D on the regular

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[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Yesterday passed the 10 million mark in testing...

Covidtracking.com #s
3/31- 1 million
4/7- 2 million
4/14- 3 million
4/20- 4 million
4/25- 5 million
4/29- 6 million
5/3- 7 million
5/7- 8 million
5/11- 9 million
5/14- 10 million (5/13 CDC & Worldometer)

I noticed you've stopped counting the deaths.

I haven't and it's pathetic that worldwide its not more than 500k

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[UNI88]

Thunberg is a flash in the pan social warrior. Do we really expect a 14(?) yr old to understand all the nuances, causes, effects, interdependicies of a climate change, epidemiology and ecology?

She's 17.

And of course not, but who cares? She's not being paraded as an expert.

It's a town hall...the whole point is to get different perspectives. Young people and their concerns are a legitimate perspective.

So she's a celebrity? An SJW Kardashian?

[Ibanez]

Thunberg is a flash in the pan social warrior. Do we really expect a 14(?) yr old to understand all the nuances, causes, effects, interdependicies of a climate change, epidemiology and ecology?

She's 17.

And of course not, but who cares? She's not being paraded as an expert.

It's a town hall...the whole point is to get different perspectives. Young people and their concerns are a legitimate perspective.

Young people and their concerns are legit. But they aren't parading some random teen up there. Greta is symbol. She's there for her work on climate change. Not b/c she's the average 17 yr old.

[GannonFan]

And I'm sure with the same restrictions in place that we could've put in place and had them open up a month and a half ago.

When we decided to shut things down I think we made the right calls - with the exception of protecting nursing homes and other home care - that's been badly bungled and wasn't enough of a focus early on and the vast majority of deaths are in those locations - something like 70% in PA alone.

Where this has gone off the rails is our stubborn resistance to acknowledge the science of this and that we can't wish the virus away by hunkering at home. We knew two months ago that a vaccine wasn't coming for a long time. We knew two months ago that with the right steps and precautions (masks in public, or at least indoors, social distancing, temp checks, reduced capacity, etc) that we could minimize the spread. Heck, in most places we've been doing this for two months as we allowed grocery stores, the big box stores like Walmart (but not their small business competitors), restaurants, etc to stay open and to do those precautions. And the longer we stubbornly hold on to restrictions that don't make sense (i.e. like Wolf magically adding a month on to restrictions in most of PA just because) then the more resistant people get to the actual recommendations (like the aforementioned precautions) because now they don't trust the motivations of those making the decisions. We see it on a national scale with Trump, and we see it 50 different times and ways with governors and then even more so at the local level.

We know what we have to do to go back and we can and should be doing it today, if we haven't already.

Go back to where? Not diminishing your points here, but we seem to be about as far off from herd immunity numbers as total testing. And that’s assuming we know all there is to know about herd immunity not to mention the long term health effects of survivors and those related economic costs.

Wrong choice of words - not go back, but go forward with what we know. We know that we're not going to have any of those questions answered that you're asking - herd immunity, long term health effects, etc. Even what we knew previously has been altered or disproven as we learn more. That's going to keep happening going forward. We've only had this virus around for 4-5 months, it's going to take a lot longer than that to perfect our understanding of it.

The go forward is that we can't just sit around and pretend that we will perfect our understanding of it anytime soon. We know the precautions that need to be taken to minimize the threat - implement those now everywhere and move on. Any business should be open, any school should be open, etc. Heck, I'd even put people back into stadiums, with plenty of precautions in place. That's the new normal going forward, so pretending that we're going to have all of the answers with a few more weeks is disingenuous. Lay out the precautions that need to be in place and move forward.

[GannonFan]

She's 17.

And of course not, but who cares? She's not being paraded as an expert.

It's a town hall...the whole point is to get different perspectives. Young people and their concerns are a legitimate perspective.

Young people and their concerns are legit. But they aren't parading some random teen up there. Greta is symbol. She's there for her work on climate change. Not b/c she's the average 17 yr old.

She's there for the same reason why there's been this many posts about her being on there - she's a lightning rod and brings in viewers. The details and information don't matter - tv ratings do matter. That is all.

[∞∞∞]

She's 17.

And of course not, but who cares? She's not being paraded as an expert.

It's a town hall...the whole point is to get different perspectives. Young people and their concerns are a legitimate perspective.

Young people and their concerns are legit. But they aren't parading some random teen up there. Greta is symbol. She's there for her work on climate change. Not b/c she's the average 17 yr old.

Exactly, she's one of the most (if not most) prominent voices of her generation. It makes sense to have her in a global town hall.