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[AZGrizFan]

Ain't life choices a bitch?

Not really how it works; might suggest reading Nichomachean Ethics by some little known dude named Aristotle.

Includes bits about the fortunes of birth and circumstance and how people may not be able to achieve potential because of it. Might shatter your worldview that you've earned everything because of your hard work. That dude in the street picking up trash might've been booted after a vulture capitalist bought out their job, the person cleaning your hallway may have been a Doctor in another country, the retail clerk might have been dropped out of school to take care of their sick parents.

So get out of here with "ain't life choices a bitch" garbage.

Here's the thing, Trip. I don't doubt that amongst the 44% who are in the group we're discussing, there are outliers who meet circumstances similar to those you describe. But they are just that. Outliers. And NO system is going to be perfect and lift EVERYONE up. There will always be, in every system, a subsection of people who sadly fall through the cracks. Sometimes, shit just happens. But, you know and I know that there's a better than average chance the guy picking up trash smoked dope all the way through school and dropped out in the 10th grade. You know, "life choices".

[AZGrizFan]

Ain't life choices a bitch?

Wait? I though college was an expensive waste of time these days?

I'm talking about the "or less" part. But the ones who DO have a HS diploma better go get some technical or trade degree or they're gonna be working low wage jobs the rest of their life.

Ah. I see the good Colonel beat me to it.

[AZGrizFan]

And the US has absolutely moved to the right...this nation grew out of the New Deal, unions, taxing the rich, heavy government investments into science, medicine, and education, implementing a federal minimum wage which kept up with inflation, etc.

Neoliberal policies born out of Reaganism have completely destroyed this nation's middle and lower class. The rich are hording wealth, pension plans are practically gone, people can't afford going to the doctor, kids go into tens of thousands of dollars into debt for a an education, buying power has decreased, we've become a rent-nation, US debt is at an all time high, should we go on?

Utter bullshit.

[93henfan]

Another choice is to stay off meth.

Ever since he was a young boy, Shawn Pleasants had promise. He was a valedictorian in high school, got into Harvard but chose to go to Yale and major in economics. He worked on Wall Street and then started his own business. Today, he is homeless and living on the streets of Los Angeles.

Pleasants, 52, has been living on the streets of Koreatown for 6 years. He has been homeless for a decade.

"I own all my choices - the good and the bad. It means it can happen to anybody. It's not someone else's problem. It's a problem we all could face," he said...

Pleasants admits to being a regular methamphetamine user, but he still possesses the intellectual curiosity that took him to an Ivy League.

https://abc7.com/5547755/

[Chizzang]

Look here Unification88
I use statistics like a samurai uses his sword
(Which is rarely, just for show and to no effect)

But when I completely fabricate statistics for 89
those are SUPER effective
because we then get to argue for 5 more days straight

SO who's got A+ stats now ?

*check mate atheist

And when you DO use statistics, you do a really, really crappy job of it.

Look I'm trying to win an argument here...
My statistics are pure gold

[AZGrizFan]

And when you DO use statistics, you do a really, really crappy job of it.

Look I'm trying to win an argument here...
My statistics are pure gold

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[Gil Dobie]

Look I'm trying to win an argument here...
My statistics are pure gold

You were not reading what Alpha told you to do with video's, that's a life choice.

[93henfan]

Four minutes of political comedy gold:

[UNI88]

Link? It's Chizzy's MO to make up statistics to support his argument. It's funny when he does it to 89 but it's not working here.

Look here Unification88
I use statistics like a samurai uses his sword
(Which is rarely, just for show and to no effect)

But when I completely fabricate statistics for 89
those are SUPER effective
because we then get to argue for 5 more days straight

SO who's got A+ stats now ?

*check mate atheist

Exactly! I love it when you pull statistics out of your butt with 89 and he goes down the rabbit hole telling you how wrong you are. It's master level trolling and funny as hell.

[UNI88]

Not really how it works; might suggest reading Nichomachean Ethics by some little known dude named Aristotle.

Includes bits about the fortunes of birth and circumstance and how people may not be able to achieve potential because of it. Might shatter your worldview that you've earned everything because of your hard work. That dude in the street picking up trash might've been booted after a vulture capitalist bought out their job, the person cleaning your hallway may have been a Doctor in another country, the retail clerk might have been dropped out of school to take care of their sick parents.

So get out of here with "ain't life choices a bitch" garbage.

Here's the thing, Trip. I don't doubt that amongst the 44% who are in the group we're discussing, there are outliers who meet circumstances similar to those you describe. But they are just that. Outliers. And NO system is going to be perfect and lift EVERYONE up. There will always be, in every system, a subsection of people who sadly fall through the cracks. Sometimes, shit just happens. But, you know and I know that there's a better than average chance the guy picking up trash smoked dope all the way through school and dropped out in the 10th grade. You know, "life choices".

I've been kicked in the shorts by life a few times. I make less than 1/2 of what I'm worth and I struggled to land this job after getting laid off twice and saying the hell with it and teaching for 5 years. Now that I'm working again, I could probably find a better paying job but I like the people and the location and I'm willing to sacrifice money for those things. Life is about choices and occasional sacrifices. I could have stayed in Illinois and complained about not finding a job but I moved to Oregon away from my kids. I have little sympathy for people who complain but aren't willing to put in the work (high school diploma/GED, trade school, military, etc.) or make the sacrifices to improve their opportunities.

I don't think the government should take money from AZ or anyone else because someone thinks he makes too much. Life isn't always fair and the I don't want the government to fvck things up trying to make it fair.

The solution to the fortunes of birth is creating equal opportunities not equal outcomes. Our education system needs to be better but every time the federal government gets involved they fvck it up worse than it was before. There are also issues with hope and culture. I taught in schools where the majority of students were Latino. What most differentiated the students who did well from the others was involved parents and peer groups that were focused on academic success. For too many, it wasn't cool to do well or be respectful in school and those students were more likely to make lots of bad "life choices" that limited their future opportunities. The Green New Deal and other social welfare programs aren't going to change that.

[∞∞∞]

Dudes, no one wants to take money from AZ. No one gives a sh*t about people with a few 100K or a few million.

It's the f*ckers who horde enough wealth to last lifetimes, to the point where they can sit on it and contribute nothing. It's the ones who have enough that their children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren and great-great-grandchildren can live comfortably without ever contributing anything meaningful. And it's the corporations who aren't fairly compensating workers for increased productivity.

[UNI88]

Dudes, no one wants to take money from AZ. No one gives a sh*t about people with a few 100K or a few million.

It's the f*ckers who horde enough wealth to last lifetimes, to the point where they can sit on it and contribute nothing. It's the ones who have enough that their children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren and great-great-grandchildren can live comfortably without ever contributing anything meaningful. And it's the corporations who aren't fairly compensating workers for increased productivity.

There are a multiple problems with that. One, those people you want to take the money from can move that money overseas and change their citizenship to protect it. Two, why can't Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, etc. keep their money and direct where and if they want. They took the chances and built the companies that made the money, they earned it. Three, when I look at the Progressive wish list (Green New Deal, Medicare For All, etc.) I have a hard time believing that there is enough money to be taxed to fund all of it without reaching deep into the middle class.

[Skjellyfetti]

Bernie doesn't golf. That's ~$350 million in savings right there.

[Chizzang]

Dudes, no one wants to take money from AZ. No one gives a sh*t about people with a few 100K or a few million.

It's the f*ckers who horde enough wealth to last lifetimes, to the point where they can sit on it and contribute nothing. It's the ones who have enough that their children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren and great-great-grandchildren can live comfortably without ever contributing anything meaningful. And it's the corporations who aren't fairly compensating workers for increased productivity.

Hopefully nobody actually disagrees with this ^
I think the implementation could be tricky because we might inadvertently harm the upper middle

but the top .00025
Those 400 Americans own more of the country’s riches than the 150 million adults in the bottom 60 percent of the wealth distribution...

[∞∞∞]

Dudes, no one wants to take money from AZ. No one gives a sh*t about people with a few 100K or a few million.

It's the f*ckers who horde enough wealth to last lifetimes, to the point where they can sit on it and contribute nothing. It's the ones who have enough that their children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren and great-great-grandchildren can live comfortably without ever contributing anything meaningful. And it's the corporations who aren't fairly compensating workers for increased productivity.

Hopefully nobody actually disagrees with this ^
I think the implementation could be tricky because we might inadvertently harm the upper middle

but the top .00025
Those 400 Americans own more of the country’s riches than the 150 million adults in the bottom 60 percent of the wealth distribution...

They'll disagree because they're all temporarily embarrassed...billionaires.

[UNI88]

Dudes, no one wants to take money from AZ. No one gives a sh*t about people with a few 100K or a few million.

It's the f*ckers who horde enough wealth to last lifetimes, to the point where they can sit on it and contribute nothing. It's the ones who have enough that their children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren and great-great-grandchildren can live comfortably without ever contributing anything meaningful. And it's the corporations who aren't fairly compensating workers for increased productivity.

There are a multiple problems with that. One, those people you want to take the money from can move that money overseas and change their citizenship to protect it. Two, why can't Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, etc. keep their money and direct where and if they want. They took the chances and built the companies that made the money, they earned it. Three, when I look at the Progressive wish list (Green New Deal, Medicare For All, etc.) I have a hard time believing that there is enough money to be taxed to fund all of it without reaching deep into the middle class.

And why don't we put a 100% tax on all of the earnings of federally elected officials that is greater than their federal salary. That would stop scoundrels from using their position in government to profit from speeches, book sales, etc. Bernie and Warren should propose this.

[kalm]

Link? It's Chizzy's MO to make up statistics to support his argument. It's funny when he does it to 89 but it's not working here.

Look here Unification88
I use statistics like a samurai uses his sword
(Which is rarely, just for show and to no effect)

But when I completely fabricate statistics for 89
those are SUPER effective
because we then get to argue for 5 more days straight

SO who's got A+ stats now ?

*check mate atheist

“Unification88”!

[AZGrizFan]

Dudes, no one wants to take money from AZ. No one gives a sh*t about people with a few 100K or a few million.

It's the f*ckers who horde enough wealth to last lifetimes, to the point where they can sit on it and contribute nothing. It's the ones who have enough that their children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren and great-great-grandchildren can live comfortably without ever contributing anything meaningful. And it's the corporations who aren't fairly compensating workers for increased productivity.

Hopefully nobody actually disagrees with this ^
I think the implementation could be tricky because we might inadvertently harm the upper middle

but the top .00025
Those 400 Americans own more of the country’s riches than the 150 million adults in the bottom 60 percent of the wealth distribution...

More stats from Clitzy.

Tax them at 100%. We're still about $75 trillion short for all the Dem wet dream programs. So at some point, they WILL give a shit about people with a few hundred thousand or a few million (I like how Trip just ASSumes he knows what income category I'm in).

Tax the rich. Feed the poor. Until there are no rich no more.

Then what, fuckers?

[AZGrizFan]

Hopefully nobody actually disagrees with this ^
I think the implementation could be tricky because we might inadvertently harm the upper middle

but the top .00025
Those 400 Americans own more of the country’s riches than the 150 million adults in the bottom 60 percent of the wealth distribution...

They'll disagree because they're all temporarily embarrassed...billionaires.

So embarrassed three of them are running for president. Along with half a dozen multi-millionaires.

[UNI88]

Dudes, no one wants to take money from AZ. No one gives a sh*t about people with a few 100K or a few million.

It's the f*ckers who horde enough wealth to last lifetimes, to the point where they can sit on it and contribute nothing. It's the ones who have enough that their children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren and great-great-grandchildren can live comfortably without ever contributing anything meaningful. And it's the corporations who aren't fairly compensating workers for increased productivity.

There are a multiple problems with that. One, those people you want to take the money from can move that money overseas and change their citizenship to protect it. Two, why can't Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, etc. keep their money and direct where and if they want. They took the chances and built the companies that made the money, they earned it. Three, when I look at the Progressive wish list (Green New Deal, Medicare For All, etc.) I have a hard time believing that there is enough money to be taxed to fund all of it without reaching deep into the middle class.

And four, even if you could put a 100% tax on the uber-wealthy's money, it would be a one time tax. How would you fund the Green New Deal, Medicare For All, etc. in year 2 and beyond?

[kalm]

There are a multiple problems with that. One, those people you want to take the money from can move that money overseas and change their citizenship to protect it. Two, why can't Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, etc. keep their money and direct where and if they want. They took the chances and built the companies that made the money, they earned it. Three, when I look at the Progressive wish list (Green New Deal, Medicare For All, etc.) I have a hard time believing that there is enough money to be taxed to fund all of it without reaching deep into the middle class.

And four, even if you could put a 100% tax on the uber-wealthy's money, it would be a one time tax. How would you fund the Green New Deal, Medicare For All, etc. in year 2 and beyond?

1). End fossil fuel subsidies and tax discounts plus amortize the savings on externalities and new tech profits and corresponding tax revenues over decades.

2). Fears of big govnmnit savings aside, if the French can spend half as much on healthcare with the same outcomes so can we. You do think we’re at least as smart of the French don’t ya?

3). Deficits don’t matter. (At least until a donk gets elected president).

[UNI88]

And four, even if you could put a 100% tax on the uber-wealthy's money, it would be a one time tax. How would you fund the Green New Deal, Medicare For All, etc. in year 2 and beyond?

1). End fossil fuel subsidies and tax discounts plus amortize the savings on externalities and new tech profits and corresponding tax revenues over decades.

2). Fears of big govnmnit savings aside, if the French can spend half as much on healthcare with the same outcomes so can we. You do think we’re at least as smart of the French don’t ya?

3). Deficits don’t matter. (At least until a donk gets elected president).

1) That should cover the interest on the debt.

2) Trip feels so strongly that the French and Euros do it better than us that I've lost all confidence in our ability to reach their level of enlightenment. Honestly, yes, I think we can do it better than the French (or the Canadians) but that means building an American system not copying the French. It also means tort reform and addressing other causes of our high expenses.

3) I'm a small l libertarian, deficits always matter to me.

[kalm]

1). End fossil fuel subsidies and tax discounts plus amortize the savings on externalities and new tech profits and corresponding tax revenues over decades.

2). Fears of big govnmnit savings aside, if the French can spend half as much on healthcare with the same outcomes so can we. You do think we’re at least as smart of the French don’t ya?

3). Deficits don’t matter. (At least until a donk gets elected president).

1) That should cover the interest on the debt.

2) Trip feels so strongly that the French and Euros do it better than us that I've lost all confidence in our ability to reach their level of enlightenment. Honestly, yes, I think we can do it better than the French (or the Canadians) but that means building an American system not copying the French. It also means tort reform and addressing other causes of our high expenses.

3) I'm a small l libertarian, deficits always matter to me.

If we’re smart, all ideas and options need to be on the table, agreed. We are better than those effete fools and lumberjacks. The bitter pill is there will be losers and those would be losers have the money and influence to continue fighting it. But first step lies in everyone recognizing we can do much better than what we currently have.

[Gil Dobie]

[Chizzang]