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"Fiat Chrysler Automobiles (FCHA.MI) (FCAU.N) on Sunday said it will invest $1 billion to modernize two plants in the U.S. Midwest and create 2,000 jobs, upping the ante as automakers respond to threats from President-elect Donald Trump to slap new taxes on imported vehicles."

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This is getting ridiculous, have we ever had negative unemployment before?

Stopping the illegals and creating more jobs than workers is only possible from President Trump.......#whenwillitend?
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Whoa there! Wait a second!

You mean to tell me he's leveraging the awesome buying power of our markets to support domestic manufacturing?

But, but, but...Smoot Hawley!!!

Quick, someone call Ganny!

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houndawg wrote:We're going to be so great that we'll get tired of being great!
Yes. It's an endless cycle. Right now, we are tired of sucking.
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kalm wrote:Whoa there! Wait a second!

You mean to tell me he's leveraging the awesome buying power of our markets to support domestic manufacturing?

But, but, but...Smoot Hawley!!!

Quick, someone call Ganny!

:lol:
See, I knew you were a Trumpist all along. Glad to see you're finally embracing the Trumpster. How high should we set the tariff? Can we even set it too high???

With that said, the beauty of Trump, possibly, is that he could do all of this and not have to pass a single bit of legislation or executive order, just on the basis of his personality and the threat of action. He's such a wild card, and he's perceived to be one, that he could do it.
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GannonFan wrote:
kalm wrote:Whoa there! Wait a second!

You mean to tell me he's leveraging the awesome buying power of our markets to support domestic manufacturing?

But, but, but...Smoot Hawley!!!

Quick, someone call Ganny!

:lol:
See, I knew you were a Trumpist all along. Glad to see you're finally embracing the Trumpster. How high should we set the tariff? Can we even set it too high???

With that said, the beauty of Trump, possibly, is that he could do all of this and not have to pass a single bit of legislation or executive order, just on the basis of his personality and the threat of action. He's such a wild card, and he's perceived to be one, that he could do it.
As you're alluding to, we may not even have to set the tariff...hence the leverage of our markets.

But if we have to...it will be yuge!
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kalm wrote:
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See, I knew you were a Trumpist all along. Glad to see you're finally embracing the Trumpster. How high should we set the tariff? Can we even set it too high???

With that said, the beauty of Trump, possibly, is that he could do all of this and not have to pass a single bit of legislation or executive order, just on the basis of his personality and the threat of action. He's such a wild card, and he's perceived to be one, that he could do it.
As you're alluding to, we may not even have to set the tariff...hence the leverage of our markets.

But if we have to...it will be yuge!
No, hence the leverage of a guy in the Oval Office who could follow through on what he says. Trump is believable enough about his bluster that people have already started to move on things they would've waited on if it were just another politician. I'm not sure it's necessarily sustainable, but Trump will have the ability to make significant changes early on while people are still trying to figure him out.
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GannonFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
As you're alluding to, we may not even have to set the tariff...hence the leverage of our markets.

But if we have to...it will be yuge!
No, hence the leverage of a guy in the Oval Office who could follow through on what he says. Trump is believable enough about his bluster that people have already started to move on things they would've waited on if it were just another politician. I'm not sure it's necessarily sustainable, but Trump will have the ability to make significant changes early on while people are still trying to figure him out.
Agreed, but the leverage has always been there. It takes a non-globalist to apply it.
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kalm wrote:
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No, hence the leverage of a guy in the Oval Office who could follow through on what he says. Trump is believable enough about his bluster that people have already started to move on things they would've waited on if it were just another politician. I'm not sure it's necessarily sustainable, but Trump will have the ability to make significant changes early on while people are still trying to figure him out.
Agreed, but the leverage has always been there. It takes a non-globalist to apply it.
Applying it with tangible laws is different than applying it with repeated bluster. Trump's uniqueness is that he can leverage it without instituting things like Hawley-Smoot. It's a fine line, but an important one. It leaves us flexible and it leave the rest of the world scrambling to react to a moving target. We throw down a hard tariff via a law and not only is it tough for us to adjust it later on, but it puts the stake in the ground that everyone else can adjust around. Trump could do something that very few other, if any, politicians could do. But we still have to see if Trump can do this himself too.
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Christ, Trump has ALREADY created more jobs paying > minimum wage than Obama did in 8 years and he's not even in the office yet.
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The bluster can only last so long and go so far. At some point, he will need to take action on something in order to maintain effective bluster. But it sure is interesting to see the current bluster working.
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CAA Flagship wrote:The bluster can only last so long and go so far. At some point, he will need to take action on something in order to maintain effective bluster. But it sure is interesting to see the current bluster working.
Eh, I don't think bluster is something that can be handed from administration to administration, but I could see Trump being successful doing this bluster through his administration. It's all personality, which is what he was elected on (that, and the personality of his opponents) so as long as he's Donald he might be able to make this work for a while.
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The great thing about the pomp and bluster working is - You can't make a bad thing out of it..
So much of politics and political maneuverings is that they can be spun in so many directions
Making hard to know what to believe

With Trump making blanket threats and playing high stakes chicken with companies
Ultimately no bad legislation has been passed to back his position

It's just Trump - being Trump
and it's working until somebody at one of the majors calls bullsh!t on him and forces legislation
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Chizzang wrote:The great thing about the pomp and bluster working is - You can't make a bad thing out of it..
So much of politics and political maneuverings is that they can be spun in so many directions
Making hard to know what to believe

With Trump making blanket threats and playing high stakes chicken with companies
Ultimately no bad legislation has been passed to back his position

It's just Trump - being Trump
and it's working until somebody at one of the majors calls bullsh!t on him and forces legislation
This is very true, and you have to wonder if it's business acumen, luck, or both.
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93henfan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:The great thing about the pomp and bluster working is - You can't make a bad thing out of it..
So much of politics and political maneuverings is that they can be spun in so many directions
Making hard to know what to believe

With Trump making blanket threats and playing high stakes chicken with companies
Ultimately no bad legislation has been passed to back his position

It's just Trump - being Trump
and it's working until somebody at one of the majors calls bullsh!t on him and forces legislation
This is very true, and you have to wonder if it's business acumen, luck, or both.
And do you think he's had a come to Jesus meeting yet with the true money guys or if he ever will?
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93henfan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:The great thing about the pomp and bluster working is - You can't make a bad thing out of it..
So much of politics and political maneuverings is that they can be spun in so many directions
Making hard to know what to believe

With Trump making blanket threats and playing high stakes chicken with companies
Ultimately no bad legislation has been passed to back his position

It's just Trump - being Trump
and it's working until somebody at one of the majors calls bullsh!t on him and forces legislation
This is very true, and you have to wonder if it's business acumen, luck, or both.
Its called being a man, some of you should try it sometime :coffee:
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
93henfan wrote:
This is very true, and you have to wonder if it's business acumen, luck, or both.
Its called being a man, some of you should try it sometime :coffee:

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93henfan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:The great thing about the pomp and bluster working is - You can't make a bad thing out of it..
So much of politics and political maneuverings is that they can be spun in so many directions
Making hard to know what to believe

With Trump making blanket threats and playing high stakes chicken with companies
Ultimately no bad legislation has been passed to back his position

It's just Trump - being Trump
and it's working until somebody at one of the majors calls bullsh!t on him and forces legislation
This is very true, and you have to wonder if it's business acumen, luck, or both.
Both. Business acumen is the surfer, luck is the wave.
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