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Nord Stream 1: Russia switches off gas pipeline citing maintenance

Shutdown at short notice by state-owned Gazprom disrupts European efforts to stockpile for winter

Russia has stopped the flow of gas via the Nord Stream 1 pipeline to Europe, citing the need to carry out repairs, in a move that has heightened already acute nervousness over the reliability of winter energy supplies.

The halt on the Baltic Sea pipeline at 5am on Wednesday would last for three days, Gazprom, the Russian state energy company said. It had warned two weeks ago that the outage was due but the German government said it had not been formally told, receiving the information instead via social media after it was posted on Gazprom’s Telegram channel.

In recent months, the gas flow had been reduced to 40% of expected levels. In July, the flow was stopped for scheduled maintenance and resumed again after 10 days but at only 20% of capacity, with Moscow blaming the failure of Germany to return vital equipment due to sanctions imposed on Russia.

The German government rejects the claim, calling it a “pretence”. It said Nord Stream was “fully operational” and that there were no technical issues.

Since invading Ukraine, Russia has cut off gas supply to Bulgaria, Denmark, Finland, the Netherlands and Poland completely, and reduced flows via other pipelines.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... aintenance

Europe’s Energy Crisis Is Getting Worse as Natural Gas Prices Soar

Europe’s energy crisis is deepening and could be approaching a critical point as Russia once again halts gas flows to the continent.

The month of August saw fresh inflation highs, with Eurozone inflation jumping to 9.1%. Energy was unsurprisingly the biggest driver, although the annual rate of energy inflation fell to a slightly less staggering 38.3% from 39.6% in July.

It comes after German inflation rose to 8.8%, according to data released Tuesday, a 40-year high.

But that only tells part of the story. German year-ahead power prices, Europe’s benchmark, hit €1,000 per megawatt-hour for the first time on Monday. At start of 2020 it was just below €40.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/europe ... STS_europe

Analysis: Full gas storage no fix for Europe's winter energy crunch

EU gas storage 80% full, on track to hit filling target early
Analysts warn stored gas not enough to cover winter
Deep cuts in gas demand needed to avoid fuel shortages

BRUSSELS, Aug 31 (Reuters) - The European Union is on track to beat targets for filling gas storage, but analysts warn the bigger factor for energy security this winter will be whether countries can slash consumption enough to ensure stored fuel lasts through the coldest months.

Following a scramble for fuel over the summer after top European gas supplier Russia invaded Ukraine, Europe's gas storage is now 79.94% full, Gas Infrastructure Europe data shows, setting up countries to exceed their target to have 80% full storage by November.

In a normal year that could cover Europe's winter peak in gas use. But in 2022, with Russian flows already sharply lower - the amount of gas it sends through Nord Stream 1, its main pipeline route into Europe, is at just 20% of capacity - storage will not make up the balance.

Full gas storage could sustain European countries for, at best, about three months, according to Aurora Energy Research. In Germany, home to nearly a quarter of the EU's storage, stored gas could meet 80 to 90 days of average demand.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy ... 022-08-31/

Thank you stupid dipshit Germans for shutting down 3 of your nuclear power plants.

Pwns wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:24 am Thank you stupid dipshit Germans for shutting down 3 of your nuclear power plants.

Pwns wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:41 am

Pwns wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:24 am Thank you stupid dipshit Germans for shutting down 3 of your nuclear power plants.

When you let an autistic Swedish teenager set your energy policy, what do you expect?

Baldy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:28 pm

Pwns wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:41 am

When you let an autistic Swedish teenager set your energy policy, what do you expect?

What’s the problem? We let an autistic South African teenager become the richest man in the world.

Go spectrum!

Pwns wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:41 am

Pwns wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:24 am Thank you stupid dipshit Germans for shutting down 3 of your nuclear power plants.

What a bunch of horseshit. Environmentalists have zero influence and are only used as an excuse to keep prices up.

But yeah, we’re going to ban gas cars, and our grid can handle every household having 1-2 electric cars.

Good to know that stating a proxy war with your energy supplier is a bad idea.

Europe is fucked, and it ain't even winter yet. Ouch.

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 3:05 pm

Baldy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:28 pm
When you let an autistic Swedish teenager set your energy policy, what do you expect?

What’s the problem? We let an autistic South African teenager become the richest man in the world.

Go spectrum!

No problem here. Thank God we're not Sweden...or California.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:19 pm
But yeah, we’re going to ban gas cars, and our grid can handle every household having 1-2 electric cars.

Our legislature just passed a law to ban sales of gasoline cars after 2035. Something tells me the grid won't be ready for that influx of EVs hitting the system.

SDHornet wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:27 pm

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:19 pm
But yeah, we’re going to ban gas cars, and our grid can handle every household having 1-2 electric cars.

Our legislature just passed a law to ban sales of gasoline cars after 2035. Something tells me the grid won't be ready for that influx of EVs hitting the system.

Just Texas.

SDHornet wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:27 pm

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:19 pm
But yeah, we’re going to ban gas cars, and our grid can handle every household having 1-2 electric cars.

Our legislature just passed a law to ban sales of gasoline cars after 2035. Something tells me the grid won't be ready for that influx of EVs hitting the system.

It can if we make wiser choices regarding mass transit, urban planning, lifestyle, etc.

houndawg wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:09 am

SDHornet wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:27 pm

Our legislature just passed a law to ban sales of gasoline cars after 2035. Something tells me the grid won't be ready for that influx of EVs hitting the system.

Just Texas.

Yes, because the OTHER parts of the grid have performed SO admirably in recent years.

BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:19 pm
But yeah, we’re going to ban gas cars, and our grid can handle every household having 1-2 electric cars.

Read the CAISO (electric system manager in Cali) press release. It specifically says don't charge your EV.

From 4 p.m. to 9 p.m.:
Avoid using major appliances and charging electric vehicles.

https://www.caiso.com/Documents/califor ... sept-1.pdf

kalm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:32 am

SDHornet wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:27 pm

Our legislature just passed a law to ban sales of gasoline cars after 2035. Something tells me the grid won't be ready for that influx of EVs hitting the system.

It can if we make wiser choices regarding mass transit, urban planning, lifestyle, etc.

So when you moving to town from your home in the country?

HI54UNI wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:57 am

kalm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:32 am

It can if we make wiser choices regarding mass transit, urban planning, lifestyle, etc.

So when you moving to town from your home in the country?

Oh these rules don’t to apply to me, silly.

I’m a privileged gentleman farmer with two gas guzzling cars.

kalm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:32 am

SDHornet wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:27 pm
Our legislature just passed a law to ban sales of gasoline cars after 2035. Something tells me the grid won't be ready for that influx of EVs hitting the system.

It can if we make wiser choices regarding mass transit, urban planning, lifestyle, etc.

How do you ride mass transit and keep 6' of distance from your fellow passengers?

UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:22 am

kalm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:32 am

It can if we make wiser choices regarding mass transit, urban planning, lifestyle, etc.

How do you ride mass transit and keep 6' of distance from your fellow passengers?

Joy killer.

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/01/11197789 ... ower-plant

In midst of energy crisis, California forced to embrace reality.

kalm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:13 am

UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:22 am
How do you ride mass transit and keep 6' of distance from your fellow passengers?

Joy killer.

The pandemic changed the appeal and functionality of mass transit and that reality needs to be factored into these debates.

Add that to what homelessness and flash riots have done to the appeal of urban living and fewer people and employers are going to want to be in urban areas. Density is a harder sell now then it was 3 years ago.

This is an example of people on the fringe advocating for competing interests while not acknowledging the conflicts.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:28 am

kalm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:13 am

Joy killer.

The pandemic changed the appeal and functionality of mass transit and that reality needs to be factored into these debates.

Add that to what homelessness and flash riots have done to the appeal of urban living and fewer people and employers are going to want to be in urban areas. Density is a harder sell now then it was 3 years ago.

This is an example of people on the fringe advocating for competing interests while not acknowledging the conflicts.

Because everything they advocate for is done in an absolute vacuum. ZERO consideration for what things it directly conflicts with.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:28 am

kalm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:13 am

Joy killer.

The pandemic changed the appeal and functionality of mass transit and that reality needs to be factored into these debates.

Add that to what homelessness and flash riots have done to the appeal of urban living and fewer people and employers are going to want to be in urban areas. Density is a harder sell now then it was 3 years ago.

This is an example of people on the fringe advocating for competing interests while not acknowledging the conflicts.

Yet here we are with decreasing resources, decreasing affordable land but increasing growth…still living in large cities.

Conflicts require resolution. “Fringe” is a subjective term.

kalm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:02 am

UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:28 am
The pandemic changed the appeal and functionality of mass transit and that reality needs to be factored into these debates.

Add that to what homelessness and flash riots have done to the appeal of urban living and fewer people and employers are going to want to be in urban areas. Density is a harder sell now then it was 3 years ago.

This is an example of people on the fringe advocating for competing interests while not acknowledging the conflicts.

Yet here we are with decreasing resources, decreasing affordable land but increasing growth…still living in large cities.

Conflicts require resolution. “Fringe” is a subjective term.

Do you deny that the appeal of city living has dropped? I love cities and 3 years ago I would have enjoyed living in downtown Portland. Not anymore. The homeless camps, the risk of my car being broken into, the increased possibility that as a middle-aged white male I could be threatened and attacked because of my "privilege", etc. outweigh by walkability and proximity to restaurants, shows, etc.

FTR, I used our light rail system on a regular basis before the pandemic. I don't think I've used it since and don't plan to.

Yes, conflicts require resolution but resolution frequently requires compromise. The all-or-nothing approach taken by the fringes doesn't allow for compromise. They're absorbed in the righteousness of their cause and will brook no compromise.

"Fringe" is a subjective term just like "centrist" and "center". IMO you have left your post-partisan center and moved to the fringe.