Did the WAC close the gap with the MWC from 1999 - 2010? No. It actually grew.Fresno St. Alum wrote:Teams leaving the WAC in 1999 for the MWC didn't mean shit to the WAC until 2010, when happened again. Your slightly better comment doesn't hold water. Unless you're Nova, UConn who are BE members for all other sports all moves up will only be slightly better than the previous conf. Montana can't go to the MWC w/o going to the WAC first. If they choose to stay in the sky because of money, etc. Going from the A-Sun to the Big South is a slight move up so Campbell did it.
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Both had 3 BCS bids moron. That makes them about equal the bottom 2 of the MWC were better than the bottom 2 of the WAC making them a little better.89Hen wrote:Did the WAC close the gap with the MWC from 1999 - 2010? No. It actually grew.Fresno St. Alum wrote:Teams leaving the WAC in 1999 for the MWC didn't mean shit to the WAC until 2010, when happened again. Your slightly better comment doesn't hold water. Unless you're Nova, UConn who are BE members for all other sports all moves up will only be slightly better than the previous conf. Montana can't go to the MWC w/o going to the WAC first. If they choose to stay in the sky because of money, etc. Going from the A-Sun to the Big South is a slight move up so Campbell did it.

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A10 161 NCAA bids> CAA 58. If you wanna take out the newer A10 schools bids then go ahead,but put back VT, GT, Penn St., WVU, Rutgers bids. You can take out all of your newbs bids. The have a combined 1 since joining the CAA. A 3 team league VCU, GMU, ODU. UNCW hasn't been good since Wanwright left.89Hen wrote:Did the WAC close the gap with the MWC from 1999 - 2010? No. It actually grew.Fresno St. Alum wrote:Teams leaving the WAC in 1999 for the MWC didn't mean shit to the WAC until 2010, when happened again. Your slightly better comment doesn't hold water. Unless you're Nova, UConn who are BE members for all other sports all moves up will only be slightly better than the previous conf. Montana can't go to the MWC w/o going to the WAC first. If they choose to stay in the sky because of money, etc. Going from the A-Sun to the Big South is a slight move up so Campbell did it.

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Princeton 28 National Championships > Yale 27 > Harvard 12 > Penn 6 > Florida 5Fresno St. Alum wrote:A10 161 NCAA bids > CAA 58. If you wanna take out the newer A10 schools bids then go ahead a put back VT, GT, Penn St., WVU, Rutgers bids. You can take out all of your newbs bids. The have a combined 1 since joining the CAA. A 3 team league VCU, GMU, ODU. UNCW hasn't been good since Wanwright left.

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The Packers have 13. This has nothing to do with the A10 being a step up from the CAA 3 team league. Go look back at that pretty little chart that Quinn put up for you that shows even in your good years the A10 was better. I thought you were about even but you love rankings.89Hen wrote:Princeton 28 National Championships > Yale 27 > Harvard 12 > Penn 6 > Florida 5Fresno St. Alum wrote:A10 161 NCAA bids > CAA 58. If you wanna take out the newer A10 schools bids then go ahead a put back VT, GT, Penn St., WVU, Rutgers bids. You can take out all of your newbs bids. The have a combined 1 since joining the CAA. A 3 team league VCU, GMU, ODU. UNCW hasn't been good since Wanwright left.

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And I thought the A10 was about more than bball?Fresno St. Alum wrote:The Packers have 13. This has nothing to do with the A10 being a step up from the CAA 3 team league. Go look back at that pretty little chart that Quinn put up for you that shows even in your good years the A10 was better. I thought you were about even but you love rankings.

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NCAA Bids 2000-2011(or year joined for the 5 that came later)
CAA bids other than the Big 3
UNCW 4 (last in 2006)
Hofstra 1(last in 2001)
Towson 0
William&Mary 0
Northeastern 0
Drexel 0
Georgia St. 0
JMU 0
Delaware 0
Like I said there are 3 good teams here that are superior to the 8.5 bottom feeders.
CAA bids other than the Big 3
UNCW 4 (last in 2006)
Hofstra 1(last in 2001)
Towson 0
William&Mary 0
Northeastern 0
Drexel 0
Georgia St. 0
JMU 0
Delaware 0
Like I said there are 3 good teams here that are superior to the 8.5 bottom feeders.
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It is. It about being a step up. Basketball is part of the whole picture not all but more important than swimming, rowing etc.. Pretty easy for Yale to win titles when there were only 10 football teams in the 1800's when they rotated w/ Princeton. But keep going. Since it has so much to do with A10>CAA as a conf. overall.89Hen wrote:And I thought the A10 was about more than bball?Fresno St. Alum wrote:The Packers have 13. This has nothing to do with the A10 being a step up from the CAA 3 team league. Go look back at that pretty little chart that Quinn put up for you that shows even in your good years the A10 was better. I thought you were about even but you love rankings.

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hen is the girl. He was ralph's chick(hen) so he can be mine.collegesportsinfo wrote:you two should just f*%k and get it over with.

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Last year in tourney..Fresno St. Alum wrote:NCAA Bids
CAA bids other than the Big 3
UNCW 4 (last in 2006)
Hofstra 1(last in 2001)
Towson 0
William&Mary 0
Northeastern 0
Drexel 0
Georgia St. 0
JMU 0
Delaware 0
Like I said there are 3 good teams here that are superior to the 8.5 bottom feeders.
Duquesne - 1977
Lasalle - 1992
Fordham - 1992
UMass - 1998
URI - 1999
St Bonaventure - 2000
St Louis - 2000
Charlotte - 2005
GW - 2007
Those teams are no better.

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This is really weird. Yesterday when I showed you how the A10 is inferior in other sports you shrugged it off. Now you say they are just as important as bball. I also showed you that there isn't an academic advantage. Hmmm, seems the only thing the A10 can claim superiority is bball, and that's eroded tremendously and now on the verge of disappearing all together.Fresno St. Alum wrote:It is. It about being a step up. Basketball is part of the whole picture not all but more important than swimming, rowing etc.. Pretty easy for Yale to win titles when there were only 10 football teams in the 1800's when they rotated w/ Princeton. But keep going. Since it has so much to do with A10>CAA as a conf. overall.

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I didn't know 2005, 2007, 2000 don't count? Plus all but St.Louis made it as A10 members. Your newbs can't hang with the Big 3. Temple, Xavier, Richmond, Dayton, St.Joseph's, GW, Charlotte sound more balanced than you're big 3. I left off STL since they haven't got an invite as a A10 member and St. Bonnies since half of your schools came in 2001.

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Hey, if you want to hang your hat on old news, that's your perrogative. The A10 had a larger gap back then. The gap has closed. Not sure if you're really this dense or just playing.Fresno St. Alum wrote:I didn't know 2005, 2007, 2000 don't count?

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I never said other sports are just as important. it goes Fb, Bkball, (hockey,bball,lax) depending where you live. women's bball somewhere in there too.89Hen wrote:This is really weird. Yesterday when I showed you how the A10 is inferior in other sports you shrugged it off. Now you say they are just as important as bball. I also showed you that there isn't an academic advantage. Hmmm, seems the only thing the A10 can claim superiority is bball, and that's eroded tremendously and now on the verge of disappearing all together.Fresno St. Alum wrote:It is. It about being a step up. Basketball is part of the whole picture not all but more important than swimming, rowing etc.. Pretty easy for Yale to win titles when there were only 10 football teams in the 1800's when they rotated w/ Princeton. But keep going. Since it has so much to do with A10>CAA as a conf. overall.
schools wouldn't have left the CAA for what you call sideways moves unless they thought the move was a step up. The school Prez is smarter than you and chose to leave. Go to the BE board or any other non CAA ass kissing board and they will tell you the A10 is a step up form the CAA whether its 161 bids to 58 or money, prestige or whatever. Why did Nebraska leave the B12 for the B10 B12 football is better, the won a title more recent and have won more than the big 10 since forming. money, prestige yada yada.

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I misread youFresno St. Alum wrote:I never said other sports are just as important.Fresno St. Alum wrote:Basketball is part of the whole picture not all but more important than swimming, rowing etc..

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Yes the gap has closed for the 3 studs in your league. But the A10 is still a step up, deeper, harder etc..89Hen wrote:Hey, if you want to hang your hat on old news, that's your perrogative. The A10 had a larger gap back then. The gap has closed. Not sure if you're really this dense or just playing.Fresno St. Alum wrote:I didn't know 2005, 2007, 2000 don't count?
Like I said yesterday my eyeball test thought the big 3 were as good or better than any A10 but that is a small piece of the big pie over both conf. existence. Plus Quinn posted the RPIs and showed all 5 years the A10 was better.

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Fresno St. Alum wrote:schools wouldn't have left the CAA for what you call sideways moves unless they thought the move was a step up.
It WAS a step up when Richmond left. It is no longer. At least not enough of one to go.

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here baseball is #3. in Delaware Lax is #3 right. in Michigan hockey #3 in Conn girls bball#389Hen wrote:I misread youFresno St. Alum wrote: I never said other sports are just as important.
At the FBS level only 1.5 things matter. Football and academic standards. Boise is better than CU at football but are basically a Juco and don't meet the requirements. Texas refuses to go to the SEC because their academics are too low. Pac 10, B10, B12 meet their standards. B10 needs you to be an AAU school to join unless your name is ND which they would have worked to get ND that status if they joined. FCS/AAA level its about working your way up the ladder making more money, positioning yourself for the future and yet another step up down the road.

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And I disagree on the not enough part.89Hen wrote:Fresno St. Alum wrote:schools wouldn't have left the CAA for what you call sideways moves unless they thought the move was a step up.![]()
It WAS a step up when Richmond left. It is no longer. At least not enough of one to go.
Side note all my name calling towards you is not meant to be taken serious.

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There, was that so hard? Disagreeing is fine. Stating opinion as fact will have me argue until the cows come home. Or at least until 6:30 when I leave for dinner.Fresno St. Alum wrote:And I disagree on the not enough part.89Hen wrote:It WAS a step up when Richmond left. It is no longer. At least not enough of one to go.

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I also think it will be hard to ever give you an I told you so either because if Charlotte joins say CUSA if there was an opening and the A10 wanted to go back to 14. Butler gets the first call. Quinn thinks Holy Cross or Siena would be next.89Hen wrote:There, was that so hard? Disagreeing is fine. Stating opinion as fact will have me argue until the cows come home. Or at least until 6:30 when I leave for dinner.Fresno St. Alum wrote:
And I disagree on the not enough part.

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HC or Siena?Fresno St. Alum wrote:I also think it will be hard to ever give you an I told you so either because if Charlotte joins say CUSA if there was an opening and the A10 wanted to go back to 14. Butler gets the first call. Quinn thinks Holy Cross or Siena would be next.89Hen wrote: There, was that so hard? Disagreeing is fine. Stating opinion as fact will have me argue until the cows come home. Or at least until 6:30 when I leave for dinner.

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Hey I don't always agree with him. I got into it with him about his dream conf. where Montana was in the MWC and Fresno wasn't. He said it's my dream I can have who I want.
HC/Siena I guess because they're private, new market? I can't see how they're a better option than VCU, GMU, ODU but he said something Richmond and GW owning the area and would block. I think he said Detroit too.
HC/Siena I guess because they're private, new market? I can't see how they're a better option than VCU, GMU, ODU but he said something Richmond and GW owning the area and would block. I think he said Detroit too.
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the map that we need a tech guy to update.
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There's no A10 in the Indy-Butler, Albany-Siena, Bost.-HC area so it would be new. Still I'll take my chances with ODU or VCU saturation.
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There's no A10 in the Indy-Butler, Albany-Siena, Bost.-HC area so it would be new. Still I'll take my chances with ODU or VCU saturation.
