Big Sky Basketball - 2012-13

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Re: Big Sky Basketball - 2012-13

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Brock Landers wrote:Can someone explain to me how Weber can field teams of such extreme polar opposites?

Your guess is as good as mine :oops:
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Re: Big Sky Basketball - 2012-13

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NoDak beat SUU at home earlier. The T-Birds need an NAU loss.

Sac has already overcome their 11-point halftime deficit in Bozeman. They need a win or an NAU win in Missoula.
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Griz Men Clinch Regular-Season Title

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Montana State beat Sac in Bozeman, so there's no way Weber can win the tiebreaker.

Montana will host for the second-straight year.
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Re: Griz Men Clinch Regular-Season Title

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Mvemjsunpx wrote:Montana State beat Sac in Bozeman, so there's no way Weber can win the tiebreaker.

Montana will host for the second-straight year.
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Re: Big Sky Basketball - 2012-13

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Also forgot to mention: NAU's women lost to MSU at home, so Southern Utah has officially clinched the last tournament spot & will play NoCo in the quarters.

And you have to feel bad for Amy Patton. She finished her career 5th. all time in Big Sky history with 1938 points, but without even a single Big Sky Tournament appearance to show for it.
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Re: Big Sky Basketball - 2012-13

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Here's what I believe the tourney situation is at the moment:


If NAU wins in Missoula: the 'Jacks are in, SUU is out, and Sac is in unless Eastern upsets Weber (which puts EWU in).

If NAU loses in Missoula: SUU is in for sure, and NAU is still in & Sac is out unless Eastern upsets Weber. that would instead put Sac in, and NAU & EWU out.

So NAU can only be eliminated if Eastern upsets Weber, if I've thought about this right.
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Re: Big Sky Basketball - 2012-13

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Never mind about above. EWU is eliminated. Sac just needs an NAU win or an EWU win.
NAU is in with a win or an EWU loss.
SUU needs an NAU loss.
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Poor Hornets…

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ISU beats PSU by 1 to avoid last place. Goodbye Tyler Geving (I assume).

Weber beats Eastern.

Montana up 12 with 49 seconds left.


SUU clinches. NAU still clinches despite the loss.

Sac State, the only team other than Weber with a winning NC record, is out… for the 7th. straight year. :ohno:
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Awards Predictions

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Men

MVP - Kareem Jamar (UMT)
Newcomer - Davion Berry (WEB)
Freshman - Venky Jois (EWU) (it could go to DeWayne Russell)
Defense - Will Cherry (UMT)
Coach - Wayne Tinkle (UMT)


Women

MVP - Katie Baker (UMT) (De Boer & Strange are possibilities—a shared MVP wouldn't be shocking)
Newcomer - Angela Misa (PSU) (I'm assuming Lexie Nelson isn't eligible since she played at UM as a freshman)
Freshman - Regina Okoye (WEB)
Defense - Megan Kritscher (SAC) (I really don't know on this one—a lot of possibilities, but Kritscher did set the blocks record)
Coach - Robin Selvig (UMT)
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3/9 Scores

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  • Men

    PSU 71-72 ISU; Tomas Sanchez hits a game-winner to hand last place to the Viks
    EWU 57-65 WEB; A mostly subpar performance by the Wildcats, but a noticeable FT advantage gets it done
    NAU 50-63 UMT; The 'Jacks score just 18 and get just 1 assist in the second half
    SAC 55-71 MSU; In a must-win game, the Hornets shoot 35% against the defensively challenged Bobcats
    SUU 61-68 UND; Thanks to the starting-lineup oddities of senior day, UND gets 62 of their 68 off the bench



    Women

    WEB 53-70 EWU; The Wildcats become the third team in Big Sky history to go winless overall
    ISU 61-54 PSU; The Bengals struggle, but win their 5th. straight against PSU
    UMT 71-80 SAC; The Hornets commit only 6 fouls to Montana's 18
    UND 94-95 UND (2OT); Megan Lauck scores 36 to help overcome a 21-point deficit, but SUU gets the win
    MSU 68-66 NAU; Amy Patton gets a double double in her final game, but the 'Jacks again lose
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Final Regular-Season Standings

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    • Men

      1. Montana _____________19-1_____23-6_____ W5/W4
      2. Weber State__________18-2_____24-5_____ W10/W11
      3. North Dakota ________12-8_____15-15____ W4/W3
      4. Montana State _______10-10____13-16____ W2
      5. Northern Colorado___10-10____12-17____ W3
      6. Southern Utah ________8-12____11-19____ L7/L4
      7. Northern Arizona _____8-12____11-20____ L3
      8. Sacramento State _____8-12____14-15____ L2
      9. Eastern Washington___7-13____10-21____ L1
      10.Idaho State ___________5-15_____6-24____ W1
      11.Portland State_________5-15_____8-20____ L4

    • Women

      1. Montana _____________16-4_____22-7_____ L1
      2. Northern Colorado___15-5_____18-11____ L1
      3. Eastern Washington__14-6_____18-11____ W3
      4. Idaho State __________13-7_____18-11____ W1
      5. Sacramento State ____13-7_____18-11____ W2
      6. Montana State _______11-9_____17-12____ W1
      7. Southern Utah ________9-11____15-15____ W2
      8. Northern Arizona _____7-13_____8-21____ L2
      9. North Dakota _________6-14____11-18____ L2
      10.Portland State_________6-14____12-17____ L1
      11.Weber State___________0-20_____0-29____ L38/L48
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Re: Poor Hornets…

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Mvemjsunpx wrote:ISU beats PSU by 1 to avoid last place. Goodbye Tyler Geving (I assume).

Weber beats Eastern.

Montana up 12 with 49 seconds left.


SUU clinches. NAU still clinches despite the loss.

Sac State, the only team other than Weber with a winning NC record, is out… for the 7th. straight year. :ohno:
I would love for Wanless to axe Katz but I think he has 2 years left on his contract. This loss ends a horrid month of Hornet hoops and it couldn't have come at a worse time. Looking back its amazing how little Katz was able to get done with such a well balanced and versatile roster. Katz is fucking pathetic. :thumbdown:
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Re: Poor Hornets…

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SDHornet wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:ISU beats PSU by 1 to avoid last place. Goodbye Tyler Geving (I assume).

Weber beats Eastern.

Montana up 12 with 49 seconds left.


SUU clinches. NAU still clinches despite the loss.

Sac State, the only team other than Weber with a winning NC record, is out… for the 7th. straight year. :ohno:
I would love for Wanless to axe Katz but I think he has 2 years left on his contract. This loss ends a horrid month of Hornet hoops and it couldn't have come at a worse time. Looking back its amazing how little Katz was able to get done with such a well balanced and versatile roster. Katz is fucking pathetic. :thumbdown:
Boy did I screw the goose betting you. Figures that a fan of the team would know them better than some dumb hick SUU fan. :roll:
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Re: Poor Hornets…

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grizzaholic wrote:
SDHornet wrote: I would love for Wanless to axe Katz but I think he has 2 years left on his contract. This loss ends a horrid month of Hornet hoops and it couldn't have come at a worse time. Looking back its amazing how little Katz was able to get done with such a well balanced and versatile roster. Katz is fucking pathetic. :thumbdown:
Boy did I screw the goose betting you. Figures that a fan of the team would know them better than some dumb hick SUU fan. :roll:
Hey I tried to let you back out of it, but you insisted.
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Re: Poor Hornets…

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SDHornet wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:
Boy did I screw the goose betting you. Figures that a fan of the team would know them better than some dumb hick SUU fan. :roll:
Hey I tried to let you back out of it, but you insisted.
The sad thing is that I learned absolutely NOTHING.
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Re: Poor Hornets…

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SDHornet wrote: I would love for Wanless to axe Katz but I think he has 2 years left on his contract. This loss ends a horrid month of Hornet hoops and it couldn't have come at a worse time. Looking back its amazing how little Katz was able to get done with such a well balanced and versatile roster. Katz is fucking pathetic. :thumbdown:
Really? I thought of Sac as a team that was getting quite a bit out of a lineup that isn't terribly talented. They were fundamentally sound this year, but lacking in dangerous shooters. Katz has been there long enough that the absence of shooting threats falls on him, though.

I will say that I thought the Hornets defended Montana better than most all of the other Griz opponents this season.
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Re: Poor Hornets…

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Mvemjsunpx wrote:
SDHornet wrote: I would love for Wanless to axe Katz but I think he has 2 years left on his contract. This loss ends a horrid month of Hornet hoops and it couldn't have come at a worse time. Looking back its amazing how little Katz was able to get done with such a well balanced and versatile roster. Katz is fucking pathetic. :thumbdown:
Really? I thought of Sac as a team that was getting quite a bit out of a lineup that isn't terribly talented. They were fundamentally sound this year, but lacking in dangerous shooters. Katz has been there long enough that the absence of shooting threats falls on him, though.

I will say that I thought the Hornets defended Montana better than most all of the other Griz opponents this season.
• Quality big man in Veteto
• Great (sometimes at least) 4 in Dickson
• Average at best swingman in Eberhard
• Solid 2 in McKinney
• Good point in Garrity (he needed to shoot a hell of a lot more than he did)
Our bench was piss poor but there were capable bodies to eat up minutes when needed. Now compare that against a mostly awful BSC and there is no excuse for the Hornets sitting at home during the BSCT. There were some epic collapses that were the difference this season and unfortunately those have been common place under Katz. This was the year to finally push this program to a new level (even if it is just a BSCT appearance) and Katz couldn’t get it done.
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Re: Poor Hornets…

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grizzaholic wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Hey I tried to let you back out of it, but you insisted.
The sad thing is that I learned absolutely NOTHING.
We can renew the bet next year. :lol:
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Re: Big Sky Basketball - 2012-13

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I don't know who he is but the big guy who starts for Sac, #41 I think, looked horrible during the game on Thursday. Couldn't make a simply layup. Multiple times he tried and didn't even come close.
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Re: Poor Hornets…

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SDHornet wrote:
Mvemjsunpx wrote:
Really? I thought of Sac as a team that was getting quite a bit out of a lineup that isn't terribly talented. They were fundamentally sound this year, but lacking in dangerous shooters. Katz has been there long enough that the absence of shooting threats falls on him, though.

I will say that I thought the Hornets defended Montana better than most all of the other Griz opponents this season.
• Quality big man in Veteto
• Great (sometimes at least) 4 in Dickson
• Average at best swingman in Eberhard
• Solid 2 in McKinney
• Good point in Garrity (he needed to shoot a hell of a lot more than he did)
Our bench was piss poor but there were capable bodies to eat up minutes when needed. Now compare that against a mostly awful BSC and there is no excuse for the Hornets sitting at home during the BSCT. There were some epic collapses that were the difference this season and unfortunately those have been common place under Katz. This was the year to finally push this program to a new level (even if it is just a BSCT appearance) and Katz couldn’t get it done.
I don't think Veteto is all that quality—he was particularly awful in Missoula (I remember the play where he made a good move to get open, then promptly granny-shot of the bottom of the rim).

McKinney was dangerous when on, but not too useful when off.

Garrity's a good point guard, but distribution doesn't do much good when his teammates miss the wide open shots.
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Actual Awards Winners

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Mvemjsunpx wrote:Predictions


Men

MVP - Kareem Jamar (UMT)
Newcomer - Davion Berry (WEB)
Freshman - Venky Jois (EWU) (it could go to DeWayne Russell)
Defense - Will Cherry (UMT)
Coach - Wayne Tinkle (UMT)


Women

MVP - Katie Baker (UMT) (De Boer & Strange are possibilities—a shared MVP wouldn't be shocking)
Newcomer - Angela Misa (PSU) (I'm assuming Lexie Nelson isn't eligible since she played at UM as a freshman)
Freshman - Regina Okoye (WEB)
Defense - Megan Kritscher (SAC) (I really don't know on this one—a lot of possibilities, but Kritscher did set the blocks record)
Coach - Robin Selvig (UMT)

Men

MVP - Kareem Jamar (UMT)
Newcomer - Davion Berry (WEB)
Freshman - Venky Jois (EWU)
Defense - Will Cherry (UMT)

http://bigskyconf.com/news/2013/3/11/MB ... 31944.aspx


Women

MVP - Katie Baker (UMT)
Newcomer - Angela Misa (PSU)
Freshman - Hayley Hodgins (EWU)
Defense - D'Shara Strange (UNC)

http://bigskyconf.com/news/2013/3/11/WB ... 30323.aspx


I believe the coach of the year awards come later.
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POTW - Week 18

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Men

Kareem Jamar (UMT) - 16.7 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 4.3 apg, 58% shooting (3 games)


Women

Lexie Nelson (EWU) - 21 ppg, 6 rpg, 57% shooting (2 games)
Alle Moreno (SAC) - 18 ppg, 5 rpg, 3 apg (2 games)
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Re: Big Sky Basketball - 2012-13

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Veteto averaged 10 points and 6 boards a game (also shot a respectable 61% from the stripe). He wasn't a dominant big man but he did have a presence. Yeah he had an awful game at UM and didn't see the floor in the final game at MSU. He might have re-injured his knee (complete guess on my behalf) but something happened to him heading into that final road trip.
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Re: Big Sky Basketball - 2012-13

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  • NCAA Tounament

    (13) Montana (25-6) vs. (4) Syracuse (26-9) in San Jose, CA - Thursday, 3/21, 6:57 PM PDT

    NIT

    (none)

    CBI

    (none)

    CIT

    North Dakota (16-16) @ Northern Iowa (18-14) - Wednesday, 3/20, 7:00 CDT
    Cal Poly (18-13) @ Weber St. (26-6) - Wednesday, 3/20, 7:00 MDT

Women

  • NCAA Tournament

    (13) Montana (24-7) vs. (4) Georgia (25-6) - Saturday, 3/23, 3:40 PM PDT

    WNIT

    Idaho St. (18-12) @ BYU (21-10) - Wednesday, 3/20, time TBA
    Northern Colorado (20-12) @ Wyoming (24-7) - Thursday, 3/21, 7:00 MDT
    Eastern Washington (19-12) @ Washington (20-11) - Friday, 3/22, time TBA

    WBI

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