New Shooting, this time Oregon

[CAA Flagship]

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[93henfan]

http://heavy.com/news/2015/10/chris-har ... k-youtube/

STOP THE PRESSES!!! HE HAD AN AR-15!!!

THAT'S AN ASSAULT RIFLE!!!

[andy7171]

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/1 ... -ban-guns/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks for linking. I find this sentence interesting:

The student code of conduct bans guns "without written authorization."

What does that mean specifically? The article doesn't clarify that. Does it mean that in addition to a CCW, a student must also get further written authorization from the college? Also, how clear was the college in its policy? A lot of times, a simple gun free zone sign might deter a legal CCW holder from carrying. For instance, in VA, if I saw a sign that said "guns prohibited", I'd leave my piece in my car without calling a lawyer and questioning the legality, basically because I wanted my Buffalo Wild Wings to go without a hassle.

Very confusing. Kinda like a state employee upholding a state law that contradicts a Supreme Court opinion.

[BDKJMU]

Not in every class you f'ing moron. But if there was ALREADY a security guard on campus it wouldn't cost that much more to allow him to be armed. It would cost the school a few thousand more a year, not hundreds of thousands. Got you're an idiot..

One guard on a huge campus. What a **** moron

Someone said there was 2 guards. The campus isn't THAT big. Regardless, 1 or 2 armed guards, at a cost of a few k a year, could have saved some of thise lives. What a **** moron.

[bluehenbillk]

Yep the school is to blame because they didn't have armed guards at every entrance. The insanity that some people come up with after these senseless shootings is sad. And then you get assholes like Griz that will rail on it until it happens in his backyard and maybe then it might sink in. But until then innocent people will continue to get killed, not gang members in Chicago but kids in Connecticut and students in Oregon and wherever the next one is.

[CID1990]

"...Joe Olson, former president of the college, told The Associated Press the school has only one security officer on duty at a time, and that person isn’t armed.

He says last year, one of the biggest debates on campus was whether the school should have armed security officers. He says the college had three training exercises with local law agencies in the past two years, “but you can never be prepared for something like this.”...."
http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2015/10/01/ ... -shooting/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So these lib idiots turned down arned security. The blood is on their hands.

So you want the school to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to have armed security guards in every class you're the **** idiot

If there's any blood on anyone's hands other than the shooters it's on the NRA and their moronic supporters

Hm.

I'm a history buff but I didn't realize Jefferson was a NRA member. Who knew?


Repeal the 2nd Amendment or STFU.

[YoUDeeMan]

Oregon gunman singled out Christians during rampage.
http://nypost.com/2015/10/01/oregon-gun ... g-rampage/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jesus Christ...those women in the pictures are fat and ugly.

Every one of them.

I thought Oregon was a healthy, granola eating state.

Damn...no wonder the guy shot so many people. Obama should stop calling for gun control and leave this one to Michelle; if those kids were in better shape, they could have run away or fled out the window.

[kalm]

So you want the school to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to have armed security guards in every class you're the **** idiot

If there's any blood on anyone's hands other than the shooters it's on the NRA and their moronic supporters

Hm.

I'm a history buff but I didn't realize Jefferson was a NRA member. Who knew?


Repeal the 2nd Amendment or STFU.

Because we don't have anything in between BDK-level gun fetishism and making them illegal to possess?

The NRA is unreasonable in a number of its positions. It's not necessarily a positive force for gun rights in the long run.

[89Hen]

I take media reports in the first 24 hours with huge grains of salt anymore, because our media is so irresponsible in checking sources

It's just a ratings race. They all want to be first to report anything. That said, it seems it shouldn't take very long to find out a LOT of info on a person very quickly thanks to social media.

[CID1990]

Hm.

I'm a history buff but I didn't realize Jefferson was a NRA member. Who knew?


Repeal the 2nd Amendment or STFU.

Because we don't have anything in between BDK-level gun fetishism and making them illegal to possess?

The NRA is unreasonable in a number of its positions. It's not necessarily a positive force for gun rights in the long run.

"Shall not be infringed," Klam.

Incremental measures will not pass the judicial test.

We are a gun country. It is who we are. Either repeal the 2nd Amendment or STFU.

[kalm]

Because we don't have anything in between BDK-level gun fetishism and making them illegal to possess?

The NRA is unreasonable in a number of its positions. It's not necessarily a positive force for gun rights in the long run.

"Shall not be infringed," Klam.

Incremental measures will not pass the judicial test.

We are a gun country. It is who we are. Either repeal the 2nd Amendment or STFU.

We're a gun country? No shit?

That's some nice selective constitutional interpretation there.

[YoUDeeMan]

The NRA is unreasonable in a number of its positions. It's not necessarily a positive force for gun rights in the long run.

Which ones?

[Ibanez]

One guard on a huge campus. What a **** moron

Someone said there was 2 guards. The campus isn't THAT big. Regardless, 1 or 2 armed guards, at a cost of a few k a year, could have saved some of thise lives. What a **** moron.

A few thousand a year is not a livable wage.

Let's at least give them 10s of thousands of $$$.

[YoUDeeMan]

BTW, I am quite upset that you people don't give a crap about the health of those super-sized women in the pictures.

I know GrizHalfWit isn't posting because he is on his way to Oregon to get him sum plump girlz, but the silence from the rest of you is shocking.

This country is suffering from a crisis of epic proportions, and you are focusing on a few people killed by nuts with guns.

[Ibanez]

BTW, I am quite upset that you people don't give a crap about the health of those super-sized women in the pictures.

I know GrizHalfWit isn't posting because he is on his way to Oregon to get him sum plump girlz, but the silence from the rest of you is shocking.

This country is suffering from a crisis of epic proportions, and you are focusing on a few people killed by nuts with guns.

#FlabbyLivesMatter

[CAA Flagship]

BTW, I am quite upset that you people don't give a crap about the health of those super-sized women in the pictures.

I know GrizHalfWit isn't posting because he is on his way to Oregon to get him sum plump girlz, but the silence from the rest of you is shocking.

This country is suffering from a crisis of epic proportions, and you are focusing on a few people killed by nuts with guns.

[Ibanez]

"...Joe Olson, former president of the college, told The Associated Press the school has only one security officer on duty at a time, and that person isn’t armed.

He says last year, one of the biggest debates on campus was whether the school should have armed security officers. He says the college had three training exercises with local law agencies in the past two years, “but you can never be prepared for something like this.”...."
http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2015/10/01/ ... -shooting/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So these lib idiots turned down arned security. The blood is on their hands.

So you want the school to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to have armed security guards in every class you're the fucking idiot

If there's any blood on anyone's hands other than the shooters it's on the NRA and their moronic supporters

I noticed you didn't mean the shooter. Interesting. But good job at blaming NRA supporters.

[Grizalltheway]

BTW, I am quite upset that you people don't give a crap about the health of those super-sized women in the pictures.

I know GrizHalfWit isn't posting because he is on his way to Oregon to get him sum plump girlz, but the silence from the rest of you is shocking.

This country is suffering from a crisis of epic proportions, and you are focusing on a few people killed by nuts with guns.

Too busy with your wife, cuck. I'll save the fatties for you.

[andy7171]

Oregon gunman singled out Christians during rampage.
http://nypost.com/2015/10/01/oregon-gun ... g-rampage/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jesus Christ...those women in the pictures are fat and ugly.

Every one of them.

I thought Oregon was a healthy, granola eating state.

Damn...no wonder the guy shot so many people. Obama should stop calling for gun control and leave this one to Michelle; if those kids were in better shape, they could have run away or fled out the window.

I haven't read the rest of my thread yet, but this makes me think.

After the first guy/girl who stood up in the class and got popped after saying they were Christian. If I were there, if I hadn't gotten capped off the bat and was amonst the rest in the room. Why not rush the coward before it got to you? Much like the French subway incedent?

I guess all the victims were involved in "NO TAG" recesses growing up?

Why wait your turn?

Chances are, if the gunman gets rushed, it's not in his plan. And will panic. You live, everyone else lives. Andf you get to beat the shit out of someone.

[93henfan]

I would have just said that religion is for rubes and that I like your (the shooter's) glasses.

Always play to your audience.

[Chizzang]

Oregon gunman singled out Christians during rampage.
http://nypost.com/2015/10/01/oregon-gun ... g-rampage/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jesus Christ...those women in the pictures are fat and ugly.

Every one of them.

I thought Oregon was a healthy, granola eating state.

Damn...no wonder the guy shot so many people. Obama should stop calling for gun control and leave this one to Michelle; if those kids were in better shape, they could have run away or fled out the window.

Outside of Portland / Bend and Eugene Oregon is about as close to Iowa as you can get...

[AZGrizFan]

Someone said there was 2 guards. The campus isn't THAT big. Regardless, 1 or 2 armed guards, at a cost of a few k a year, could have saved some of thise lives. What a **** moron.

A few thousand a year is not a livable wage.

Let's at least give them 10s of thousands of $$$.

Sweet Baby Jesus. They're ALREADY employed. They just need to buy them guns.

[Ibanez]

A few thousand a year is not a livable wage.

Let's at least give them 10s of thousands of $$$.

Sweet Baby Jesus. They're ALREADY employed. They just need to buy them guns.

I was jumping on BDKs comment that a 1 or 2 guards cost a few thousand a year.

[Grizalltheway]

A few thousand a year is not a livable wage.

Let's at least give them 10s of thousands of $$$.

Sweet Baby Jesus. They're ALREADY employed. They just need to buy them guns.

Oh wait, turns out there was somebody armed (and trained) there. Why did people still die?

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[AZGrizFan]

After the first guy/girl who stood up in the class and got popped after saying they were Christian. If I were there, if I hadn't gotten capped off the bat and was amonst the rest in the room. Why not rush the coward before it got to you? Much like the French subway incedent?

I guess all the victims were involved in "NO TAG" recesses growing up?

Why wait your turn?

Chances are, if the gunman gets rushed, it's not in his plan. And will panic. You live, everyone else lives. Andf you get to beat the shit out of someone.

http://www.maxim.com/maxim-man/maxim-le ... ng-2015-10" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Meet the Hero Army Vet Who Took Seven Bullets Charging the Oregon College Shooter

A soulless lunatic opened fire on innocent students at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon Thursday, killing at least 10 before and wounding seven before responding officers took him out. The gunman, inspired by the on-air murder of two Virginia journalists earlier this month, reportedly sought public notoriety

We won't give it to him. The gunman's name is Chris, but there's another Chris from the Oregon shooting you should pay attention to instead: Army veteran Chris Mintz, age 30, who witnesses say displayed astonishing courage even as he took multiple bullets from the psychopath's gun.

According to CBS, Mintz ran toward the gunman in an effort to "protect his classmates" after the gunman tried to enter his classroom. Mintz's aunt Wanta told CBS her nephew tried to block a classroom door "to keep the gunman from coming in." He was shot three times before he fell, she said. As Mintz lay wounded, his aunt said he told the gunman 'it's my son's birthday' and was shot two more times.

Chris Mintz's constitution was made from the same iron as his character — he was gravely wounded, but survived after spending most of Thursday in surgery. His cousin Derek Bourgeois, with whom Mintz had joined the Army straight out of high school, told the Daily Beast he heard Mintz is "fine (...) but he’s going to have to learn to walk again."

A friend posted on Mintz's Facebook page on Friday on the hero's behalf, saying "Chris asked me to thank everyone for their support, he is grateful and keeping our community and all victims in his thoughts."

A comment left below the status seemed to speak for many who have heard the story of this man who ran headlong into a hail of gunfire:

You saved lives Chris Mintz. You are the one who will be remembered. You are a hero in my eyes with a warriors spirit. God bless you and your recovery.

We've only mentioned Chris Mintz and his family here and not the killer's name for a reason. The Umpqua killer left writing, as reported by both the Daily Beast and CNN, that indicated he knew mass murder was a route to lasting notoriety.

It's natural to study the motives of killers and natural to want to understand how they came to be. But it's the names of the victims, and the names of truly inspiring bad-asses like Chris Mintz — or the men who recently stopped a likely terrorist attack aboard a European train — that need to echo afterwards.

Hats off to Chris Mintz.