Uh-Oh! Ben Carson Caught in Background Lie?????

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Re: Uh-Oh! Ben Carson Caught in Background Lie?????

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Is this 2012 all over again? The media taking down a black GOP candidate who is leading the field?

What else is new? :coffee:
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Westmoreland, a grad, would know that as well. So why even use the word? It's just odd.
Because that was also a lie?

General Westmoreland was in Washington, DC and nowhere near Detroit that weekend.
In his autobiography, which was the basis of a movie about Carson’s life, Carson wrote that the dinner with Westmoreland took place after he “marched at the head of the Memorial Day parade.”

“I felt so proud, my chest bursting with ribbons and braids of every kind,” said Carson, who was a top ROTC cadet at Detroit’s former Southwestern High School.

Westmoreland’s Memorial Day schedule on May 30, 1969, indicates he was in Washington. The schedule says Westmoreland had a morning meeting with national security adviser Henry Kissinger, laid a wreath at an 11 a.m. memorial service in Arlington National Cemetery and had a 5 p.m. “boat ride on the Potomac.”

The Detroit News on Friday reviewed Westmoreland’s schedule for the dates in question among his official papers housed at the U.S. Army Heritage and Education Center in Carlisle, Pa.

The Army records and Detroit News archival records show Westmoreland was in Detroit on Feb. 18, 1969, for a dinner honoring a Vietnam War veteran. The banquet was for Congressional Medal of Honor winner Dwight Johnson, a Detroit African-American who risked his life “beyond the call of duty,” according to a website about black participation in the Vietnam War.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/p ... /75328960/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Every candidate has lied at some point. But Carson, seriously dude? I think his book was ghost written by this guy:

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DSUrocks07 wrote:Is this 2012 all over again? The media taking down a black GOP candidate who is leading the field?

What else is new? :coffee:

The MEDIA is taking him down..?
Ben Carson is doing a fine job taking himself down - and more time will only expose him more
He's bat sh!t crazy

:shock:
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DSUrocks07 wrote:Is this 2012 all over again? The media taking down a black GOP candidate who is leading the field?

What else is new? :coffee:
It would stop if he came out and admitted it was false. I'd forgive the guy. :thumb:
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Ibanez wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Because that was also a lie?

General Westmoreland was in Washington, DC and nowhere near Detroit that weekend.



http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/p ... /75328960/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:lol: :lol:

Every candidate has lied at some point. But Carson, seriously dude? I think his book was ghost written by this guy:

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I just had that thought.
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The media is taking him down for being Christian. Am I right JJ?
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Chizzang wrote:
DSUrocks07 wrote:Is this 2012 all over again? The media taking down a black GOP candidate who is leading the field?

What else is new? :coffee:

The MEDIA is taking him down..?
Ben Carson is doing a fine job taking himself down - and more time will only expose him more
He's bat sh!t crazy

:shock:
Compare the scrutiny he is under to what isn't happening to The Hildabeast.
If "the media" only put in a token effort into exposing the outright lies Broom Hilda has stated, she wouldn't have even entered the race. :coffee:
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Baldy wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

The MEDIA is taking him down..?
Ben Carson is doing a fine job taking himself down - and more time will only expose him more
He's bat sh!t crazy

:shock:
Compare the scrutiny he is under to what isn't happening to The Hildabeast.
If "the media" only put in a token effort into exposing the outright lies Broom Hilda has stated, she wouldn't have even entered the race. :coffee:
Agreed. The media is painfully biased.
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"....But Hildabeast....!!"

... a familiar refrain.
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Actually Carson didn't attend Yale. He graduated from Penn, but the intrepid press hasn't dug that up yet. That explains a lot. ;)
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Skjellyfetti wrote:"....But Hildabeast....!!"

... a familiar refrain.
Kinda like...it was a video...or...if you like your plan you can keep your plan...

Amirite???
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Skjellyfetti wrote:"....But Hildabeast....!!"

... a familiar refrain.
Hildabeast is the greater of 2 evils. She's downright immoral and unethical. There's nothing good about her. :twocents:
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Baldy wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:"....But Hildabeast....!!"

... a familiar refrain.
Kinda like...it was a video...or...if you like your plan you can keep your plan...

Amirite???
lol

yeah the "but bush" crowd has a short memory
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Baldy wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:"....But Hildabeast....!!"

... a familiar refrain.
Kinda like...it was a video...or...if you like your plan you can keep your plan...

Amirite???
Ugh...
I'm still pissed off about that whole... "You can keep your doctor"
Because you know what - YOU CAN"T - or at least I sure couldn't

:ohno:

Where were we..? oh right Ben Carson is a fruit and nut cheese cake
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Chizzang wrote:
Baldy wrote: Kinda like...it was a video...or...if you like your plan you can keep your plan...

Amirite???
Ugh...
I'm still pissed off about that whole... "You can keep your doctor"
Because you know what - YOU CAN"T - or at least I sure couldn't

:ohno:

Where were we..? oh right Ben Carson is a fruit and nut cheese cake
I kept my doctor and our family's premiums are still down $800/month. I'm one of the winners! Then again we were self insuring to begin with. :mrgreen:
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kalm wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Ugh...
I'm still pissed off about that whole... "You can keep your doctor"
Because you know what - YOU CAN"T - or at least I sure couldn't

:ohno:

Where were we..? oh right Ben Carson is a fruit and nut cheese cake
I kept my doctor and our family's premiums are still down $800/month. I'm one of the winners! Then again we were self insuring to begin with. :mrgreen:
Our company didn't raise premiums this year, hooray!

But I chose the top plan so that I can $500 deposited into a HSA on January 1. Plus, my wife and I are doing a health screening and will get an additional $700 deposited into the HSA. It's hard turning down $1,200 that we can use towards a $2,600 deductible, if we need it.

I feel if you use less and less of your insurance on things other than wellness/preventative care that you should receive some sort of discount.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Westmoreland, a grad, would know that as well. So why even use the word? It's just odd.
Because that was also a lie?

General Westmoreland was in Washington, DC and nowhere near Detroit that weekend.
In his autobiography, which was the basis of a movie about Carson’s life, Carson wrote that the dinner with Westmoreland took place after he “marched at the head of the Memorial Day parade.”

“I felt so proud, my chest bursting with ribbons and braids of every kind,” said Carson, who was a top ROTC cadet at Detroit’s former Southwestern High School.

Westmoreland’s Memorial Day schedule on May 30, 1969, indicates he was in Washington. The schedule says Westmoreland had a morning meeting with national security adviser Henry Kissinger, laid a wreath at an 11 a.m. memorial service in Arlington National Cemetery and had a 5 p.m. “boat ride on the Potomac.”

The Detroit News on Friday reviewed Westmoreland’s schedule for the dates in question among his official papers housed at the U.S. Army Heritage and Education Center in Carlisle, Pa.

The Army records and Detroit News archival records show Westmoreland was in Detroit on Feb. 18, 1969, for a dinner honoring a Vietnam War veteran. The banquet was for Congressional Medal of Honor winner Dwight Johnson, a Detroit African-American who risked his life “beyond the call of duty,” according to a website about black participation in the Vietnam War.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/p ... /75328960/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Uhhhh, Joe? Ballsdry? BDNTCASE?

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A few months ago I was watching TV with the wife (who's apolitical) and I pointed out to her how charismatic Carson was. She agreed. There was something about him that was cool and appealing. Tonight, for some reason, it dawned on me...
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Benson was cool as shit and always under control. Plus, he was the butler so no wonder conks dig him... :mrgreen:
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Ibanez wrote:
kalm wrote:
I kept my doctor and our family's premiums are still down $800/month. I'm one of the winners! Then again we were self insuring to begin with. :mrgreen:
Our company didn't raise premiums this year, hooray!

But I chose the top plan so that I can $500 deposited into a HSA on January 1. Plus, my wife and I are doing a health screening and will get an additional $700 deposited into the HSA. It's hard turning down $1,200 that we can use towards a $2,600 deductible, if we need it.

I feel if you use less and less of your insurance on things other than wellness/preventative care that you should receive some sort of discount.
My premiums went up last year, but are still half of what I paid with the old company. Virtually the same plan.
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Baldy wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

The MEDIA is taking him down..?
Ben Carson is doing a fine job taking himself down - and more time will only expose him more
He's bat sh!t crazy

:shock:
Compare the scrutiny he is under to what isn't happening to The Hildabeast.
If "the media" only put in a token effort into exposing the outright lies Broom Hilda has stated, she wouldn't have even entered the race. :coffee:

Dry your eyes, sweetheart, Benny C hasn't had anywhere near the scrutiny Hillary has. Its the only reason he made it this far. :coffee:
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Ibanez wrote:
Baldy wrote: Semantics.

scholarship - [skol-er-ship] a sum of money or other aid granted to a student, because of merit, need, etc., to pursue his or her studies.


:coffee:
When discussing college scholarships, it's always money based on merit or need. You don't need money to study at West Point because it's subsidized by the taxpayer. Everything a cadet needs is provided by the taxpayer. They don't have to worry about covering the cost of books or food or uniforms.
:coffee: :coffee:

It was a poor choice of words, but there's nothing to pay for.
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Westmoreland, a grad, would know that as well. So why even use the word? It's just odd.
So you don't have to serve after graduating? :?
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houndawg wrote:
Ibanez wrote: When discussing college scholarships, it's always money based on merit or need. You don't need money to study at West Point because it's subsidized by the taxpayer. Everything a cadet needs is provided by the taxpayer. They don't have to worry about covering the cost of books or food or uniforms.
:coffee: :coffee:

It was a poor choice of words, but there's nothing to pay for.



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Westmoreland, a grad, would know that as well. So why even use the word? It's just odd.
So you don't have to serve after graduating? :?

I didn't say that. I meant you don't have tuition, room&board or any fees.

You are required to serve afterwards. Hell, you can go to West Point (the US Army's school) and be commissioned in a different service.
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D1B wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Because that was also a lie?

General Westmoreland was in Washington, DC and nowhere near Detroit that weekend.



http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/p ... /75328960/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Uhhhh, Joe? Ballsdry? BDNTCASE?

:coffee:
It's been confirmed that there was such an event in Detroit that year, and Westmoreland did attend. It happened in February, not May. A minor issue about a minor issue. Actually, the event being in February makes more sense, since by May, most top high school students are already signed, sealed and delivered to their college.

Did you see Carson during the debate Tuesday night? Is this seriously the problem you want to discuss about Carson?

Focusing on this only helps Carson. There's really no doubt the event happened largely as he described it. People understand that, and are concluding the media are picking on him.

Maybe, for example, we should be concerned that he is advocating a flat tax, without being able to explain how he would manage the budget, given such a significant drop in tax revenue. Or that he reads allegorical stories as literal truth, etc.
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Remember when scrutinizing a black man's past was RASICISTSOMFG?!?

good times
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CID1990 wrote:Remember when scrutinizing a black man's past was RASICISTSOMFG?!?

good times
Well, Republicans (and Conks on here) were spewing racist shat ever since Obama looked like he would win the nomination.

I haven't seen liberals doing this kind of thing with Carson:
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Yeah, comparable for sure. :jack:
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