Syrian Refugees

[dbackjon]

France allowing Syrian refugees worked out well for them.

You are the dunce, since the attacks were not connected to any Syrian Refugee.

[GannonFan]

Of course, we pick and choose who we bring from the middle east much more than Europe does. Muslims are the most educated religious group in America because a lot of people we bring in from the middle east have advanced degrees.

The problem with unfiltered immigration is that no amount of social welfare can change culture or force assimilation. When you bring in large numbers of immigrants there will be many who will not assimilate no matter what kind of social welfare or opportunities that you give them.

You can make a comparison to parts of our black population even though they aren't technically immigrants. No amount of funding and social welfare is going to fix a lot of those broken school districts and neighborhoods. The fact that Europe is more committed to multiculturalism and social welfare policies tells me that if they can't assimilate a lot of these Arab immigrants neither could we.

Agreed. And in the Disunited States of Obama, we're headed down that same road.

I don't agree with this, though, because 1) where is Europe more committed to multiculturalism than we are? The degree of separation between ethnic groups in Europe is extremely stark and there's no evidence that it's going to get better. And 2) I don't believe it's by social welfare policies that we bring about assimilation. That hasn't been the case in America, we haven't had 150 year of well thought our social welfare policies that have helped us to be a nation of immigrants that, with obvious exceptions and will bumps along the way, have done a pretty good job of assimilating a wide range of cultures. The difference between the US and Europe, when it comes to successfully assimilating immigrants into the wider culture, has always been about opportunity - generally speaking, you work hard enough, study enough, and you can get anywhere in America, especially generation to generation. That's not the case in Europe for these minority groups as they have little hope that they can improve their situation. Sure, the welfare is certainly better over there, but it can't overcome the fact that once you're a minority and in the safety net over there, there's little chance to get out of it.

[dbackjon]

Actually yes...

Bullshit.

So we are going to pay to get them here, transport them to the appropriate locations, and pay for their food and housing (for how long?). The US dollar is as strong as it has been in many years. I would rather give them the money it would cost us to do the above. The dollar will go a lot farther anywhere else.

Most of who is coming over here now are professionals. Most have sponsors (Syrian-Americans) that help them get established.

Just because the facts don't fit your preconceived ideas doesn't make your ideas right.

[Cap'n Cat]

France allowing Syrian refugees worked out well for them.

You are the dunce, since the attacks were not connected to any Syrian Refugee.

Moron in a Georgia Southern sweatshirt, Jon....... Limbaugh-parroting lobotomy survivor.

[Cap'n Cat]

Bullshit.

So we are going to pay to get them here, transport them to the appropriate locations, and pay for their food and housing (for how long?). The US dollar is as strong as it has been in many years. I would rather give them the money it would cost us to do the above. The dollar will go a lot farther anywhere else.

Most of who is coming over here now are professionals. Most have sponsors (Syrian-Americans) that help them get established.

Just because the facts don't fit your preconceived ideas doesn't make your ideas right.

GObama!!!!!!!

[dbackjon]

1) Build walls around Detroit, Baltimore, St. Louis, South Carolina, Texas and Mississippi.
2) Import millions of refugees.
3) Walls are sealed for 5 years.
4) Whose left get to keep, or get American Citizenship.

[Cap'n Cat]

List of Americans of Syrian heritage!

from Wikipedia......



Paula Abdul (born June 19, 1962), is a television personality, jewelry designer, multi-platinum Grammy-winning singer, and Emmy Award-winning choreographer.[35] According to Abdul, she has sold over 53 million records to date.[36] Abdul found renewed fame as a judge on the highly rated television series American Idol.

F. Murray Abraham (born October 24, 1939), is an actor who won the Academy Award for Best Actor for his role as Antonio Salieri in the 1984 film Amadeus. His career after Amadeus inspired the name of the phenomenon dubbed "F. Murray Abraham syndrome", attributed to Oscar winners who have difficulty obtaining comparable success and recognition despite having recognizable talent.[37]

Moustapha Akkad (July 1, 1930 – November 11, 2005), was a film director and producer originally from Aleppo; Akkad is best known for producing the series of Halloween films, and for directing the Lion of the Desert and Mohammad, Messenger of God films.[38]

Tige Andrews (March 19, 1920 – January 27, 2007), was an Emmy-nominated character actor who was best known for his role as "Captain Adam Greer" on the television series The Mod Squad.[39]

Paul Anka (born July 30, 1941), is a singer and song writer.[40] Anka rose to fame after many successful 1950s songs, earning him the status of a teen idol.[40] (Some sources, such as The Canadian Encyclopedia and Time magazine, suggest that Anka is of Syrian descent,[41][42] while other sources, including Anka's official website, suggest that he is of Lebanese descent.[43][44])

Michael Ansara (April 15, 1922 – July 31, 2013), was a stage, screen and voice actor.

Rosemary Barkett (born 1939), was the first woman to serve on the Florida Supreme Court, and the first woman Chief Justice of that court. She currently serves as a federal judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit.

Mitch Daniels (born April 7, 1949), is the former Governor of the U.S. state of Indiana (2005-2013) and the current President of Purdue University.[45]

Hala Gorani (born March 1, 1970), is a news anchor and correspondent for CNN International.[46]

Teri Hatcher (born December 8, 1964), is an actress known for her television roles as Susan Mayer on the ABC comedy-drama series Desperate Housewives, and Lois Lane on Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman. Hatcher is Syrian from her mother's side.

Dan Hedaya (born July 24, 1940), is a prolific character actor notable for his many Italian American film roles.[47]

Robert M. Isaac (born January 27, 1928), is the former Republican Mayor of Colorado Springs, Colorado. Elected in 1979, he was the first elected Mayor of the history of Colorado Springs, serving through 1997.

Alan Jabbour (born 1942), is a folklorist and a musician.


Steve Jobs (February 24, 1955 – October 5, 2011), was the co-founder and former CEO of Apple, the largest Disney shareholder,[48] and a member of Disney's Board of Directors. Jobs is considered a leading figure in both the computer and entertainment industries.[49]

Mohja Kahf (born 1967), poet and author

Callie Khouri (born November 27, 1957), Hollywood writer and television producer


Peter Lupus (born June 17, 1932), is a bodybuilder and actor, known primarily for "Mission: Impossible".

Kurtis Mantronik (born September 4, 1965), is a hip-hop, electro funk, and dance music artist, DJ, remixer, and producer. Mantronik was the leader of the old-school band Mantronix.

Jack Marshall (born 1936), is an author and poet.

Paul Orfalea (born November 28, 1947), founder of Kinko's.

Brandon Saad (born October 27, 1992), is a professional ice hockey player for the Chicago Blackhawks, 2012–13 Calder Memorial Trophy finalist, and 2013 and 2015 Stanley Cup champion.

Louay M. Safi (born September 15, 1955), is a scholar and Human Rights activist, and a vocal critic of the Far Right. Author of numerous books and articles, Safi is active in the debate on nuclear race, social and political development, and Islam-West issues. He is the chairman of the Syrian American Congress.

Jerry Seinfeld (born April 29, 1954), is a comedian, actor, and writer, best known for playing a semi-fictional version of himself in the long-running sitcom Seinfeld, which he co-created and executively produced.[50]

Yasser Seirawan (born March 24, 1960), is a chess grandmaster and 4-time US-champion.[51] Seirawan is the 69th best chess player in the world and the 2nd in the United States.[51]

Mona Simpson (born June 14, 1957), is a novelist and essayist;[52] Simpson is also a sister of Steve Jobs.[53]

Kelly Slater (born February 11, 1972), is a successful professional surfer and an 11 time world champion.[54]

Wafa Sultan (born 1958), is a secular activist and vocal critic of Islam.[55] In 2006, Sultan was chosen by Time magazine to be on the Time 100 list of the 100 most influential people in 2006.[56]

Vic Tayback (January 6, 1930 – May 25, 1990), was an actor who won two Golden Globe Awards for his role in the television series Alice.[57]

Fawwaz Ulaby, is the R. Jamieson and Betty Williams Professor of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at the University of Michigan, and the former vice president for research.

Diana al-Hadid (born 1981), contemporary Syrian sculptor from Aleppo based in the Brooklyn, New York.

[CitadelGrad]

Here are several pics of those poor refugees in Europe how are trying to escape from their huddled masses and seamlessly assimilate into mainstream Europe.

I have dozens more of these pics showing ISIS fighters who have recently gone to Europe as refugees.

[CitadelGrad]

Most of who is coming over here now are professionals. Most have sponsors (Syrian-Americans) that help them get established.

Just because the facts don't fit your preconceived ideas doesn't make your ideas right.

GObama!!!!!!!

Thank god all other developed countries are overloaded with debt (just like the United States), but don't have the luxury of being the global petro-currency.

[Cap'n Cat]

Here are several pics of those poor refugees in Europe how are trying to escape from their huddled masses and seamlessly assimilate into mainstream Europe.

I have dozens more of these pics showing ISIS fighters who have recently gone to Europe as refugees.

Source?

Michigan Militia website? TimMcVeighonRushmore.com?

[Bronco]

[Ibanez]

1) Build walls around Detroit, Baltimore, St. Louis, South Carolina, Texas and Mississippi.
2) Import millions of refugees.
3) Walls are sealed for 5 years.
4) Whose left get to keep, or get American Citizenship.

There's not an adjective in the English language to describe how ridiculous/intolerant that list is.

Did dal or mrklean write #4?

4) Whomever is left gets to maintain or acquire American Citizenship.*

[dbackjon]

Here are several pics of those poor refugees in Europe how are trying to escape from their huddled masses and seamlessly assimilate into mainstream Europe.

I have dozens more of these pics showing ISIS fighters who have recently gone to Europe as refugees.

How many of those military pics were taken by the US to show our friendly Iraqi allies? And the Syrian rebels we armed?

Without context, these pictures are nothing but scare tactics.

[dbackjon]

1) Build walls around Detroit, Baltimore, St. Louis, South Carolina, Texas and Mississippi.
2) Import millions of refugees.
3) Walls are sealed for 5 years.
4) Whose left get to keep, or get American Citizenship.

There's not an adjective in the English language to describe how ridiculous/intolerant that list is.

Did dal or mrklean write #4?

4) Whomever is left gets to maintain or acquire American Citizenship.*

It's called sarcasm, Mark. Learn it.

[Ivytalk]

Bullshit.

So we are going to pay to get them here, transport them to the appropriate locations, and pay for their food and housing (for how long?). The US dollar is as strong as it has been in many years. I would rather give them the money it would cost us to do the above. The dollar will go a lot farther anywhere else.

Most of who is coming over here now are professionals. Most have sponsors (Syrian-Americans) that help them get established.

Just because the facts don't fit your preconceived ideas doesn't make your ideas right.

Define "now," kumquat. I guarantee you that the hordes of Syrians flooding into Europe in real time are not eligible for H-1B visas.

[Ibanez]

There's not an adjective in the English language to describe how ridiculous/intolerant that list is.

Did dal or mrklean write #4?

4) Whomever is left gets to maintain or acquire American Citizenship.*

It's called sarcasm, Mark. Learn it.

It's called typing, Jon. Posts don't adequately convey tone, sometimes. That's why we have emoticons. Especially this one, .


And honestly, I wouldn't put it past you to believe that.

[dbackjon]

Most of who is coming over here now are professionals. Most have sponsors (Syrian-Americans) that help them get established.

Just because the facts don't fit your preconceived ideas doesn't make your ideas right.

Define "now," kumquat. I guarantee you that the hordes of Syrians flooding into Europe in real time are not eligible for H-1B visas.

And those aren't we are taking, quince. And I would imagine there are a number in that horde that are.

[Ivytalk]

Define "now," kumquat. I guarantee you that the hordes of Syrians flooding into Europe in real time are not eligible for H-1B visas.

And those aren't we are taking, quince. And I would imagine there are a number in that horde that are.

It sure ain't "most," pomegranate. Anyway, how would the customs authorities know? Its easier to fake a Syrian passport than a Northern Arizona 50-yard-line ticket.

[Ibanez]

Just a thought here:

Which is easier/quicker to secure, A) a tourist visa or B) refugee status.

[dbackjon]

Just a thought here:

Which is easier/quicker to secure, A) a tourist visa or B) refugee status.

Tourist Visa

[Ibanez]

Just a thought here:

Which is easier/quicker to secure, A) a tourist visa or B) refugee status.

Tourist Visa

Exactly. So what is a terrorist with false documents most likely going to get? And sooner? The current process for getting refugee status is around 1.5-2 yrs (according to a State Dept. spokesperson on NPR this morning).

[Cap'n Cat]

What would Rick Santorum do?

[Cap'n Cat]

Tourist Visa

Exactly. So what is a terrorist with false documents most likely going to get? And sooner? The current process for getting refugee status is around 1.5-2 yrs (according to a State Dept. spokesperson on NPR this morning).

Whaaaat?

You don't listen to NPR.... You don't have the vocabulary, son!

[Ibanez]

Exactly. So what is a terrorist with false documents most likely going to get? And sooner? The current process for getting refugee status is around 1.5-2 yrs (according to a State Dept. spokesperson on NPR this morning).

Whaaaat?

You don't listen to NPR.... You don't have the vocabulary, son!

[Cap'n Cat]

Y'all Conks need a li'l Jesus!