Update: War on Christmas

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kalm wrote:Displays of any religion in the public square are pushy. :nod:
What about displays of public squares on my religious tree? I have a nice collection of White House CHRISTmas ornaments. Those must drive you nuts. :lol: :kisswink:
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89Hen wrote:
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It was a sincere and legit question.

I'd like to think religion is more than just hanging some tinsel on the courthouse. So no, I don't hate religion but I'm sorry your own views of it are so apparently shallow.

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Bullshit Kalm. When a tree or a manger scene is viewed as "push(ing)" it's clear you have an issue with religion, just like the groups booking the space to block it.
Clean up your act and shut your fucking big mouths outside of your cult and mo one will have a problem.
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D1B wrote:
89Hen wrote: Bullshit Kalm. When a tree or a manger scene is viewed as "push(ing)" it's clear you have an issue with religion, just like the groups booking the space to block it.
Clean up your act and shut your fucking big mouths outside of your cult and mo one will have a problem.
:lol: Don't you have a political protest to attend?
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kalm wrote: Displays of any religion in the public square are pushy. :nod:
The banning of one faith(Christian) from public view to display another faith (atheism), sounds pushy to me. If we are truly multicultural and true to the 1st amendment, we would be allowing all faiths to display in public. It so happens, Christians displayed theirs first and now the following generations, consisting of a wider variety of faiths, are removing original Christian displays and replacing with other faiths, not Christian.
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Re: Update: War on Christmas

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Gil Dobie wrote:
kalm wrote: Displays of any religion in the public square are pushy. :nod:
The banning of one faith(Christian) from public view to display another faith (atheism), sounds pushy to me. If we are truly multicultural and true to the 1st amendment, we would be allowing all faiths to display in public. It so happens, Christians displayed theirs first and now the following generations, consisting of a wider variety of faiths, are removing original Christian displays and replacing with other faiths, not Christian.
No one is banning religious displays from public view. This can be done on private property till the cows come home.

A similar thing happened in Olympia a few years and was one of the first publicized cases of it. From a fairness standoint it's either allow them all at the same time or none. From a practical standpoint that didn't work out so well here because everyone wanted a place and they ran out of room. I think it's been the none option since.
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kalm wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
The banning of one faith(Christian) from public view to display another faith (atheism), sounds pushy to me. If we are truly multicultural and true to the 1st amendment, we would be allowing all faiths to display in public. It so happens, Christians displayed theirs first and now the following generations, consisting of a wider variety of faiths, are removing original Christian displays and replacing with other faiths, not Christian.
No one is banning religious displays from public view. This can be done on private property till the cows come home.

A similar thing happened in Olympia a few years and was one of the first publicized cases of it. From a fairness standoint it's either allow them all at the same time or none. From a practical standpoint that didn't work out so well here because everyone wanted a place and they ran out of room. I think it's been the none option since.
No banning in this case, but a certain faith is displaying in a public area. There are no laws banning displays of faith on public property, but certain groups are pushing to eliminate all Christian displays on public property, while allowing or ignoring non-Christian displays. Therefore the NONE option does not exist, but if it's Christian get rid of it. It's looking more and more like the Government is against Christians than it is for freedom of religion. I would prefer the all vs none, freedom of religion vs freedom from religion.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
kalm wrote:
No one is banning religious displays from public view. This can be done on private property till the cows come home.

A similar thing happened in Olympia a few years and was one of the first publicized cases of it. From a fairness standoint it's either allow them all at the same time or none. From a practical standpoint that didn't work out so well here because everyone wanted a place and they ran out of room. I think it's been the none option since.
No banning in this case, but a certain faith is displaying in a public area. There are no laws banning displays of faith on public property, but certain groups are pushing to eliminate all Christian displays on public property, while allowing or ignoring non-Christian displays. Therefore the NONE option does not exist, but if it's Christian get rid of it. It's looking more and more like the Government is against Christians than it is for freedom of religion. I would prefer the all vs none, freedom of religion vs freedom from religion.
Agreed, let them all display. It's always been freedom of religion and it should continue so. When we eliminate any display of religion on public ground then we are selecting a certain side (i.e. the no religion) and that should be avoided. The more the merrier IMO.
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The problem is that the humanists/atheist group is just being a bunch of assholes. Yes, they have a right to do it. But there's no reason to do what they're doing other than just to be an asshole. There is no reason other than that to choose to pick a time that has significance to someone else but not to you just for the purpose of sticking hour finger in their eye and keeping them from being able to do what they'd like to do.
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I like Christmas trees during Christmas. They smell good.

I also like incense during Tet. That smells good too and reminds me of $5 massage
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JohnStOnge wrote:The problem is that the humanists/atheist group is just being a bunch of assholes. Yes, they have a right to do it. But there's no reason to do what they're doing other than just to be an asshole. There is no reason other than that to choose to pick a time that has significance to someone else but not to you just for the purpose of sticking hour finger in their eye and keeping them from being able to do what they'd like to do.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:The problem is that the humanists/atheist group is just being a bunch of assholes. Yes, they have a right to do it. But there's no reason to do what they're doing other than just to be an asshole. There is no reason other than that to choose to pick a time that has significance to someone else but not to you just for the purpose of sticking hour finger in their eye and keeping them from being able to do what they'd like to do.
Douche1Bag has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt on this board that most everything he does (as an atheist) is to "just be an asshole".

Agreed, but hey, let them be that way. Eventually they'll grow bored of it and move one. Heck, D doesn't even post that much on here anymore, even he can't keep up with that persona for too long. People who are against something never seem to last as long as people who are for something. Let them have their displays and do whatever they can to piss off other people, which seems to be their sole mission. Eventually they'll fade away.
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