We Have a Deal: Paris Climate Accord Officially Adopted

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Ibanez wrote:
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Maybe I'm just not trusting enough to cede more power over my life to politicians who are promising results in 100 years. In 100 years I'll be dead. My children will be dead. Todays politicians will be dead. Hell, we'll all be dead! Who will be held responsible when it is determined that this whole thing is a scam on a grand scale? In a relatively short time in terms of the age of the earth North America went from being 1/3 covered with glaciers to what it is today. And this happened with no coal fired powered plants, no SUVs or any of the other bugbears that are blamed for warming. Now that was some warming that Mother Nature did on her own and I'm pretty sure she will do what she wants in the future.
Your grandkids may be alive.
They were killed by terrorists. :shock:
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93henfan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Can't you deal with both at the same time? Surely we have enough people that can focus on both those issues.
There is a cost/benefit analysis that should apply. Michael Smerconish (as I dodge tomatoes) wrote an excellent piece on the war on terror yesterday in the Philadelphia Inquirer. The war on terror has cost us trillions since 9/11 and created a slew of new government departments and programs. Same deal with war on drugs. Perhaps we should treat the root causes of terrorism and drug abuse instead?

With climate change, perhaps we can start addressing the causes now instead of dealing with the more costly consequences a hundred years from now.

And I'm totally in favor of nuclear too. :nod:
That article had promise...and then he threw it away with his heavy political slant. :ohno:

Oh, and he never did come up with a solution to terrorism. :tothehand:

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TheDancinMonarch wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Your grandkids may be alive.
They were killed by terrorists. :shock:
What a stupid statement.
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Ibanez wrote:
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They were killed by terrorists. :shock:
What a stupid statement.
I thought it was hysterical. Get a sense of humor!
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TheDancinMonarch wrote:
Ibanez wrote: What a stupid statement.
I thought it was hysterical. Get a sense of humor!
I thought it was stupid.
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TheDancinMonarch wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Your grandkids may be alive.
They were killed by terrorists. :shock:
Guess they should have been packing at all times. Why were they expecting the government to take care of them?
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Grizalltheway wrote:
TheDancinMonarch wrote:
They were killed by terrorists. :shock:
Guess they should have been packing at all times. Why were they expecting the government to take care of them?
Get a sense of humor. She was joking about terrorists murdering her family. :thumb:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
TheDancinMonarch wrote:
They were killed by terrorists. :shock:
Guess they should have been packing at all times. Why were they expecting the government to take care of them?
The government does not take care of any of TheDancinMonarchs family. We take care of ourselves. Now and forever.
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Ibanez wrote:
TheDancinMonarch wrote:
I thought it was hysterical. Get a sense of humor!
I thought it was stupid.
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TheDancinMonarch wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Guess they should have been packing at all times. Why were they expecting the government to take care of them?
The government does not take care of any of TheDancinMonarchs family. We take care of ourselves. Now and forever.
No veterans in your family? No one on medicare or medicaid? :coffee:
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TheDancinMonarch wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I thought it was stupid.
To each his own. Ain't freedom wonderful?
Indeed it is.
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Ibanez wrote:
TheDancinMonarch wrote:
The government does not take care of any of TheDancinMonarchs family. We take care of ourselves. Now and forever.
No veterans in your family? No one on medicare or medicaid? :coffee:
My husband was drafted many years ago but neither he nor I look upon that as any sort of a benefit but rather 731 days of involuntary servitude.
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So what happens when countries don't abide by this deal?
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TheDancinMonarch wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Guess they should have been packing at all times. Why were they expecting the government to take care of them?
The government does not take care of any of TheDancinMonarchs family. We take care of ourselves. Now and forever.
So you don't believe in national defense?
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CID1990 wrote:So what happens when countries don't abide by this deal?
Verbal condemnation?
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BDKJMU wrote:
CID1990 wrote:So what happens when countries don't abide by this deal?
Verbal condemnation?
A finger wag from algore?
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Ivytalk wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:Image

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Bravely bold Sir Barack
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Oh, brave Sir Barack!
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To be killed in nasty ways
Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Barack!

He was not in the least bit scared
To be mashed into a pulp
Or to have his eyes gouged out
And his elbows broken
To have his kneecaps split
And his body burned way
And his limbs all hacked and mangled
Brave Sir Barack!
Then he bravely ran away, away....

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Ivytalk wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:Image

:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Bravely bold Sir Barack
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Oh, brave Sir Barack!
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Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Barack!

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To be mashed into a pulp
Or to have his eyes gouged out
And his elbows broken
To have his kneecaps split
And his body burned way
And his limbs all hacked and mangled
Brave Sir Barack!
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CID1990 wrote:So what happens when countries don't abide by this deal?
We'll have another conference and make a new accord, only this time we'll really, really mean it!

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1st nail.. :nod:
"Supreme Disarray for the Global Climate Agenda
The high court's freeze of Obama's carbon plan casts doubt on the Paris accord.

Overshadowed by the presidential primary in New Hampshire, the U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday dealt a potentially devastating blow to President Barack Obama’s climate-rescue plan to cut carbon emissions from power plants.

Few observers expected the court to act so quickly, and aggressively, to block the new Environmental Protection Agency rules. The move may have the added effect of throwing a wrench into global climate change efforts that turn in large part on American leadership.

At issue is Obama's Clean Power Plan, which requires states and utilities to use less coal in favor of electricity derived from wind, solar, and natural gas. The plan, Obama’s signature climate initiative, aims to cut carbon output from power plants to less than 2005 levels. The goal of the plan, finalized last summer, is to be reached by 2030.

Coal producers, utilities, and a majority of states attacked the Clean Power Plan in court, alleging in a lawsuit that the EPA was exceeding its authority while unconstitutionally hindering that of the states. A three-judge panel of the federal appeals court in Washington, D.C., has scheduled arguments in their case for June. On Jan. 21, however, the judges unanimously rejected their request to freeze Obama's plan in the interim. That rejection prompted them to turn to the Supreme Court.

Ordinarily, the justices wouldn’t intervene in a broad regulatory challenge at this early stage. While the high court’s intervention to block the Clean Power Plan isn’t the final word on the controversy—the whole case will eventually come back to the justices for a ruling on the merits—it's an ominous sign for the White House that a majority of the justices view the EPA climate initiative with skepticism......"
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HI54UNI wrote:
CID1990 wrote:So what happens when countries don't abide by this deal?
We'll have another conference and make a new accord, only this time we'll really, really mean it!

:roll:
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Ivytalk wrote:When will this mess be submitted to the Senate for ratification, as the Constitution requires? :?

Or is this another one of those non-treaty treaties? :roll:
Why not? We have non-war wars after all..
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