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Qur’an:9:5 - “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
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LeadBolt wrote:Qur’an:9:5 - “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
Yep. And Ben Carson likely just ruined any hope of attaining the presidency by pointing out this and the tenets of Sharia Law.

This backward country of ours has put political correctness and pandering to minorities above its own safety.
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What's dis? Moderate Muslins taking a stand against extremists? :suspicious:
A group of Kenyan Muslims travelling on a bus ambushed by Islamist gunmen protected Christian passengers by refusing to be split into groups, according to eyewitnesses.

They told the militants "to kill them together or leave them alone", a local governor told Kenyan media.
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Grizalltheway wrote:What's dis? Moderate Muslins taking a stand against extremists? :suspicious:
A group of Kenyan Muslims travelling on a bus ambushed by Islamist gunmen protected Christian passengers by refusing to be split into groups, according to eyewitnesses.

They told the militants "to kill them together or leave them alone", a local governor told Kenyan media.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35151967" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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kalm wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:What's dis? Moderate Muslins taking a stand against extremists? :suspicious:



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Grizalltheway wrote:What's dis? Moderate Muslins taking a stand against extremists? :suspicious:
A group of Kenyan Muslims travelling on a bus ambushed by Islamist gunmen protected Christian passengers by refusing to be split into groups, according to eyewitnesses.

They told the militants "to kill them together or leave them alone", a local governor told Kenyan media.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35151967" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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HI54UNI wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:What's dis? Moderate Muslins taking a stand against extremists? :suspicious:



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Good for them! Need more like them!
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Grizalltheway wrote:What's dis? Moderate Muslins taking a stand against extremists? :suspicious:
A group of Kenyan Muslims travelling on a bus ambushed by Islamist gunmen protected Christian passengers by refusing to be split into groups, according to eyewitnesses.

They told the militants "to kill them together or leave them alone", a local governor told Kenyan media.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35151967" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Good for them. It's good to see that from Muslins.
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Ibanez wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:What's dis? Moderate Muslins taking a stand against extremists? :suspicious:



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35151967" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Good for them. It's good to see that from Muslins.
The question is, how many Christians would do that if the situation were reversed? In before Christians never kill anyone.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Good for them. It's good to see that from Muslins.
The question is, how many Christians would do that if the situation were reversed? In before Christians never kill anyone.
Good question. Hopefully we never have to find out.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Good for them. It's good to see that from Muslins.
The question is, how many Christians would do that if the situation were reversed? In before Christians never kill anyone.
If I were a Christian traveling with some non-Christians, and some Muslin normals decided to split up my group into Muslin and non-Muslins, I would definitely huddle around the Muslins in my group and defiantly tell the Muslin normals that they would have to shoot the whole group or shoot no one. :nod: :thumb:
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Ibanez wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:What's dis? Moderate Muslins taking a stand against extremists? :suspicious:



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35151967" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Good for them. It's good to see that from Muslins.
This type of action by the majority of Muslims is what is needed to combat the militant groups and to eventually isolate them. I don't expect to see this in the Middle East any time soon.
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Here's an interesting article on Militant Islam and its causes. I tend to think this is a good analysis of the situation (no troll). You may not like the source that posted the article (I don't know anything about it), but Raymond Ibrahim is a Middle East and Islam specialist. His writings have appeared in a variety of media, including the Los Angeles Times, Washington Times, Jane’s Islamic Affairs Analyst, Middle East Quarterly, World Almanac of Islamism, and Chronicle of Higher Education; he has appeared on MSNBC, Fox News, C-SPAN, PBS, Reuters, Al-Jazeera, NPR, Blaze TV, and CBN. Ibrahim regularly speaks publicly, briefs governmental agencies, provides expert testimony for Islam-related lawsuits, and testifies before Congress.

AS you can see he contributes his expertise to differing ,media sources with a variety of policicle leanings.


https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2 ... ern-cause/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here is a sample of the article that I find pertinent:
Once upon a time, the Islamic world was a superpower, and its jihad an irresistible force to be reckoned with. Over two centuries ago, however, a rising Europe, which had experienced over a thousand years of jihadi conquests and atrocities, defeated and defanged Islam.

As Islam retreated into obscurity, the post-Christian West slowly came into being. Islam didn’t change, but the West did. Muslims still venerate their heritage and religion which impels them to jihad against the Western “infidel,” whereas the West learned to despise its heritage and religion, causing it to be an unwitting ally of the jihad.
And another one that is good:
This situation is not easily remedied, for to accept that Islam is inherently violent and intolerant is to reject a number of cornerstones of postmodern Western thinking. In this context, nothing short of an intellectual/cultural revolution -- where rational thinking becomes mainstream again -- will allow the West to confront Islam head-on.
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LeadBolt wrote:Here's an interesting article on Militant Islam and its causes. I tend to think this is a good analysis of the situation (no troll). You may not like the source that posted the article (I don't know anything about it), but Raymond Ibrahim is a Middle East and Islam specialist. His writings have appeared in a variety of media, including the Los Angeles Times, Washington Times, Jane’s Islamic Affairs Analyst, Middle East Quarterly, World Almanac of Islamism, and Chronicle of Higher Education; he has appeared on MSNBC, Fox News, C-SPAN, PBS, Reuters, Al-Jazeera, NPR, Blaze TV, and CBN. Ibrahim regularly speaks publicly, briefs governmental agencies, provides expert testimony for Islam-related lawsuits, and testifies before Congress.

AS you can see he contributes his expertise to differing ,media sources with a variety of policicle leanings.


https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2 ... ern-cause/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here is a sample of the article that I find pertinent:
Once upon a time, the Islamic world was a superpower, and its jihad an irresistible force to be reckoned with. Over two centuries ago, however, a rising Europe, which had experienced over a thousand years of jihadi conquests and atrocities, defeated and defanged Islam.

As Islam retreated into obscurity, the post-Christian West slowly came into being. Islam didn’t change, but the West did. Muslims still venerate their heritage and religion which impels them to jihad against the Western “infidel,” whereas the West learned to despise its heritage and religion, causing it to be an unwitting ally of the jihad.
And another one that is good:
This situation is not easily remedied, for to accept that Islam is inherently violent and intolerant is to reject a number of cornerstones of postmodern Western thinking. In this context, nothing short of an intellectual/cultural revolution -- where rational thinking becomes mainstream again -- will allow the West to confront Islam head-on.
Very interesting article, LB. Thanks for posting.

I'm not sure I totally agree with these two paragraphs...
The root cause behind the non-stop Muslim terrorization of the West is found in those who stifle or whitewash all talk and examination of Muslim doctrine and history; who welcome hundreds of thousands of Muslim migrants while knowing that some are jihadi operatives and many are simply “radical”; who work to overthrow secular Arab dictators in the name of “democracy” and “freedom,” only to uncork the jihad long suppressed by the autocrats (the Islamic State’s territory consists of lands that were “liberated” in Iraq, Libya, and Syria by the U.S. and its allies)........

Taken together, these cornerstones of postmodern, post-Christian thinking hold that there are no absolute truths, and thus all cultures are fundamentally equal and deserving of respect. They hold that if Western people wants to criticize a civilization or religion, they must instead look “inwardly” and acknowledge their European Christian heritage as the epitome of intolerance and imperialism.
Wouldn't the root cause be radical muslims? Wouldn't our interactions be secondary causes of terrorism?

I don't think anyone has suggested Saudi Arabia's culture is fundamentally equal and deserving of as much respect as those of the West. Where do they fit into all of this since they're the primary birthplace and funding source of wahabbism.

An acknowledgement of our past indiscretions and various ME interactions does not condone terrorism.
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The other thing missing from that article is a solution. We are long on describing the evils of islam but short on solutions.

Should we ban islam from the US? Kill them all? Attack Mecca?

Are we earnest enough to do what's neccessary?

Meanwhile, Awlaki's influence still apparently reigns supreme... :shock:

Perhaps we need to ramp up the propaganda campaign.

Enrique Marquez was first exposed to the ideas of Anwar al-Awlaki in 2007 by Syed Rizwan Farook, his next-door neighbor in San Bernardino, Calif. The new convert to Islam spent hours at Farook’s home listening to Awlaki’s lectures and reading Inspire magazine, the al-Qaida publication in English that Awlaki founded.

By 2011, Marquez was plotting to attack a local community college with Farook, according to the criminal complaint in the case. Earlier this month, Farook and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, attacked Farook’s workplace, killing 14 people — using assault rifles Marquez bought for them.

Marquez and Farook are just the latest in a long line of U.S. terror plotters who were influenced by the ideas and teachings of Awlaki, an American Muslim cleric who left the U.S. in 2002 and subsequently rose to the top ranks of al-Qaida. Awlaki was killed in a CIA-led drone strike five years ago in Yemen, but his teachings continue to proliferate online. The Boston Marathon bombing, the attack on military personnel in Chattanooga, Tenn., the attempted shooting at a “Draw Muhammad” cartoon contest in Garland, Texas, and several other plots all featured young men who watched and identified with Awlaki online, after his death. (Dzhokhar Tsarnaev tweeted before the marathon attack a link to Awlaki’s lectures. “You will gain an unbelievable amount of knowledge,” he wrote.) Awlaki has also influenced attackers abroad, including at least one of the terrorists behind the Charlie Hebdo attack in Paris.

One potential discrediting piece of information on Awlaki is that he continually saw prostitutes while living in the U.S., even as he preached fidelity and sexual propriety. He was arrested in 1997 for soliciting an undercover officer posing as a prostitute. It doesn’t appear as if the U.S. government has tried to disseminate this fact to paint him as a hypocrite. (In fact, reporters only learned about Awlaki’s prostitution habit through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit.) That’s in contrast to U.S. officials immediately making it known that pornography was found on computers in Osama bin Laden’s Abbottabad complex.
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Grizalltheway wrote:What's dis? Moderate Muslins taking a stand against extremists? :suspicious:
A group of Kenyan Muslims travelling on a bus ambushed by Islamist gunmen protected Christian passengers by refusing to be split into groups, according to eyewitnesses.

They told the militants "to kill them together or leave them alone", a local governor told Kenyan media.
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kalm wrote:
LeadBolt wrote:Here's an interesting article on Militant Islam and its causes. I tend to think this is a good analysis of the situation (no troll). You may not like the source that posted the article (I don't know anything about it), but Raymond Ibrahim is a Middle East and Islam specialist. His writings have appeared in a variety of media, including the Los Angeles Times, Washington Times, Jane’s Islamic Affairs Analyst, Middle East Quarterly, World Almanac of Islamism, and Chronicle of Higher Education; he has appeared on MSNBC, Fox News, C-SPAN, PBS, Reuters, Al-Jazeera, NPR, Blaze TV, and CBN. Ibrahim regularly speaks publicly, briefs governmental agencies, provides expert testimony for Islam-related lawsuits, and testifies before Congress.

AS you can see he contributes his expertise to differing ,media sources with a variety of policicle leanings.


https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2 ... ern-cause/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here is a sample of the article that I find pertinent:



And another one that is good:
Very interesting article, LB. Thanks for posting.

I'm not sure I totally agree with these two paragraphs...
The root cause behind the non-stop Muslim terrorization of the West is found in those who stifle or whitewash all talk and examination of Muslim doctrine and history; who welcome hundreds of thousands of Muslim migrants while knowing that some are jihadi operatives and many are simply “radical”; who work to overthrow secular Arab dictators in the name of “democracy” and “freedom,” only to uncork the jihad long suppressed by the autocrats (the Islamic State’s territory consists of lands that were “liberated” in Iraq, Libya, and Syria by the U.S. and its allies)........

Taken together, these cornerstones of postmodern, post-Christian thinking hold that there are no absolute truths, and thus all cultures are fundamentally equal and deserving of respect. They hold that if Western people wants to criticize a civilization or religion, they must instead look “inwardly” and acknowledge their European Christian heritage as the epitome of intolerance and imperialism.
Wouldn't the root cause be radical muslims? Wouldn't our interactions be secondary causes of terrorism?

I don't think anyone has suggested Saudi Arabia's culture is fundamentally equal and deserving of as much respect as those of the West. Where do they fit into all of this since they're the primary birthplace and funding source of wahabbism.

An acknowledgement of our past indiscretions and various ME interactions does not condone terrorism.
From what I have read of the Qu'ran and my study of the life of Mohamed, the root cause would seem to be in the traditions and writings of Islam and that a significant minority of its adherents embrace those writings and tradition.

The fact that the West, has ascended in power, but chooses not to approach this problem for what it is out of respect for the culture, would seem to me to be an enabler. The PC positions of respect are seen as weakness in the Middle East in particular, and the jihadists see this as a vulnerability to attack. Since they are weak, terror or guerrilla war fare is the option most open to them. This needs to be first acknowledged before a solution can be crafted.

It is evident that Islam is not only a religion, but also a political system that is commanded to take over the world.
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